he could be awesome for fantasy, the same way Charbonnet was. But it's like, then they'll just split him and salami for sure. They're not going to have a single back. I feel like if... Sounds like good. Good sandwich. Yeah, it does. Split salami. Sandmi. They had the game where Wilson just took over the fourth quarter. I, Lonnie feels far more like the, like...
Week 4 Matchups + Start/Sits, Wheel of Shame! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/2
Fantasy Football - Week 4 Matchups + Start/Sits, Wheel of Shame! - Podcast for 10/2
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137 passagesIf we're going to pass or we got to catch up, we're going to get some targets to George. She just feels like extra snap guy. But when they're just, if they're going to salt the game away, if price is out, I'm open to playing Emmanuel Wilson. Not George. Yeah, not George. All right. Sunday night football guys, if you thought you only had one cat fight this week, you were wrong. Cap fight 2.0. Lions, Panthers, 2 and 1, Panthers 1 and 2.
This is the first week in NFL history where we've had all four feline football teams face each other. Yeah, shout out to Kyle for that incredible steps. We have had 78 cat fight games, though, in NFL history between two cat teams, just so you, for those keeping track, which is none of you. How are, Kyle, historically, cats versus birds. Look into it. Look into it. Look into it. The people need to know. Honestly, most dominant animal that at least has two teams representing it.
What is it? The lions are two and one. Panthers are one and two. It's in Carolina. Detroit minus three and a half, over under 50 and a half. 68% chance of rain in this one, but the overrunner is still 50.5. Two mile an hour winds projected. It should be okay. Yeah, I feel like there's a wind amount that you shouldn't report.
You know what I mean? Yeah, for sure. But if there's a storm, you want to report that you don't have to worry about the week. I just don't think anyone should know that it's two mile an hour winds. My point is it's not 15 mile an hour winds. Because that's where, you know, when it's when it's rainy, oftentimes that comes with the wind, this one does not. Right. Mike, you want to report this news? Well, we haven't, Kyle hasn't confirmed it yet. Well, the report we're seeing is that birds lead cats 234, 229, and 10s. It's pretty dominant.
No, it isn't. That's five more wins. Oh, I thought it was 334. That'd be a lot more. Dominant? Than 2.34? I mean, the birds and cats, there'd be 100 more. The birds and cats are really close. This game right now, I'm just excited for it, ultimately. Yes. Oh, my gosh. Kyle's giving me lion versus panther stats. I mean, I don't need this, man. We know the lion's going to win this thing. Panthers got nothing on it. You give me Panther versus Jaguar. Maybe you got a battle. Yeah. But lions? The king? Yeah.
Are there any mascots that would beat the lion? Bears. A lion and a bear, you think a bear would win? I don't know. Are we talking to the actual mascot fight? Yes, there's lots of those. No, not the giants. Giants can do well. Giants and Titans are. Giants and Titans have got it and then, you know, got some lightning in there from the Chargers. That probably takes them out. We don't need to open this. Yeah, we've done this on the spitballers. All right. Bryce Young?
It is a good matchup. He is leading the NFL and passing yards still. It was not a great week. You can do all the good stuff about Bryce song. He'd say, what? I mean, last week was rough. Then we saw him last week. But Coker went out in that game. I don't know. And is Coker going to play? I mean, look at the Browns. They're okay defensively. Jalen Coker's practice reports this week have been ridiculous because it's like, hey, we've seen him there. He's. He's appearing in practice. You're like.
Oh, no, but he's limited. He's just doing individual stuff. You're like, no, he's not even doing individual stuff. I don't know what's going on with Jaylon Coker. I don't think he's playing. Jason has Tet as a start of the week. I got Waller as a start of the week at tight end. Yeah, I mean, you're going to end up throwing a lot on the lions. They've got a great pass rush with Hutchinson, but they end up scoring a lot of points and needing to be thrown on in.
being able to be thrown on you. They're 32nd against quarterbacks, 32nd against tight ends, 29th against wide receivers so far through three weeks of fantasy points given up. So you want, there's a reason there's a high over under on this game and you want players in it. Yeah, you also have a Panthers defense who's been great against wide receivers, but now has more injuries in the secondary. So again, it's only three weeks in. So I think the big question mark, you're not doubting the big boys. Gibbs and Amanra every week always. Laporta, I think you're fine with.
It's the do you want to start Jamison Williams? Are you willing to start Jamison Williams? And I find myself kind of just not expecting a lot when I put him out there right now. Jamison Williams or Luther Burden? I'd probably try Luther personally against the Jets. Jamo's been, he's been bad, man. James or a Jefferson list, Vikings, and you play Jordan Addison. I'd play Addison.
Jason, you can jump in. Right now, Jamo is on pace for 56 catches for 719 yards. Yeah, it's tough. I mean, it's tough when it's three in a row. But this is also kind of what Jameson Williams has done for an entire career. It's just he disappears, disappears. Do you play those guys in plus matchups then? Is that what you do? Is never miss out on a plus matchup for the volatile? Yeah, I mean, Jameson has, he's shown that it doesn't matter.
Whenever you think you could start them, you can't. And if you don't think you could start them, you should. So start them. Tell no one. Yeah, those options you gave me, Mike. I like them a little bit more. Suspect hands that might be a little damp. Yeah. I think I would go wattle and burdened, but I would play Jamison over Deba. Are you playing Waller over Isaiah likely, Tucker Kraft? Over likely, yes, because I want to see a regular game script with James what actually happens.
Tucker Kraft. Kraft got eight targets. Played all the snaps. I can tell you, I mean, I have these two guys. I have Kraft in the lineup. Okay. The fact that there could be some rain in this one, and I feel like Waller is still super touchdown dependent, has me on the craft side. But he has my start of the week, so I think that he will get targets with no Koker. We'll see. Atlanta. When Koker left?
The targets did not go to Tetero-McMillan. They went to Darren Waller. Yeah, they did. And the snap counts have gone up for him, 35%, 44%, 51% through the three weeks. Oh, man, these trends. Atlanta 1-2, Mike's New Orleans, Saints at 1-and-2. That's right. Vegas Line New Orleans minus 2 and a half. They're at home, in the dome. I just need my team to finish. Yeah, the over-under here, 47 and a half. I mean, the Saints don't feel like a 1-and-2 team. No. They've been in every game last week against the
You know, last week against Andy's Raiders. Yeah. That was exciting and fun. They beat the Ravens on the road. They almost beat the lions on the road. They've been very, very good. I'm surprised this is only a two and a half point line. I see, I'm completely opposite. Really? Yeah, I think Atlanta wins this ballgame. Wow. And I hate to say that because the Atlanta Falcons. I think the Kansas City Chiefs beat your Raiders. So take that. Okay. Took it personally.
The reason being, Jason, is that the Falcons, we have one game. One game of actual genuine, reliable data on them, and they beat the Packers 35 to 14. And it was in Green Bay. So they went on the road and beat an offense, shut down an offense that we thought would be a lot better than that. 14 points. So I think the Falcons are a little reborn under Michael Pinnock's. I think it will be a battle. I think the line, I'd probably throw it as more of a coin flip.
So, but I do think it'll be fun. I mean, I cannot wait for this game. This is awesome. I mean, we saw a very impressive offensive performance from, what, almost two, 200-yard players in London and Bijan under with Michael Pinnock's. This should be really funny. I mean, there's nothing I'm scared about from the Saints defense. Like, I'm not benching or worried about any offensive players other than Kyle Poo-Poo-Poo. How far down does Kyle Poo-Poo go?
As far down as the toilet drain goes. Wow. Until we get something. Do you want one? I got you. Go for it. A man who currently is, I mean, commanding a. Yes, I'd play Mark Andrews. No, I wasn't going to go. Okay. A commanding a 19% target share. His name is T.J. Hawkinson, who is in a plus matchup. I mean.
I bring him up because I have him one spot ahead of Kyle Pitts. Kyle Pitts has scored zero points, two points, and one point. The only thing that matters is the last game. Kyle Pitts has 20 receiving yards. Yeah, the only thing that matters is the last game. You're going to throw those first two out just like you said. But the last game was one point. And we've seen with Kyle sits, man. Yeah. We have seen games last year with Michael. Hold on. This was, give me the spotlight again.
Oh, no. I left him out. Just I want to include him. I'm sorry. I apologize for a few players. I'm sorry about this one. I'm an idiot. Kyle Pitts is not good enough. That is all. We now return to your regular schedule program. You know who's good enough? Joanne Johnson is. DeVon DeVan is. Chris Olivae is. And the report yesterday, which is, you know, how I expected to go. Not effective, but.
It's going to be what happens. Alvin Camara is supposed to, quote, carry the load for this offense. Yes, and I agree that that will be the plan. The Falcons are actually quite good up front against running backs right now. The running back position is averaging 10 and a half points against the Falcons. Camara, I think, is an okay volume play because he's not a traditional running back. But I do think that Kendrae Miller should be on.
the bench of all 12 team rosters. Yeah, I mean, you could say that Camero's going to carry the load and then you could make a decision when it's not working to go change it. But Jason, your start of the week, shock daddy himself. Oh, yes. Yes. I think this game. I'm not anti-Saints, by the way. I just think it's going to be a sick, awesome Monday night divisional battle. You have crazy talent on both sides of the ball here. Big plays.
Yeah, I'm excited. I expect this game to hit the over and be a really fun game. So I want pieces in it. I mean, obviously the pieces are pretty easy. The biggest question of do I start or not is really just the Camara, Kendra-Kindre Miller Saints running game. Is anybody good enough to start? It's not a plus matchup so far. Camara or David Montgomery. How go Montgomery? I know you would. Andy. If I'm half or full.
Give me Camara. Give me Camara. I'm grossed out by Montgomery right now. I'm not sure what he has. We did see an update on, I think it came from coach, right, from Killenmore, that he doesn't expect Jordan Tyson to start practicing next week. That's the earliest he could have his practice window open and not expecting him to practice. He's on that short term IR, which is you have to miss four weeks. You can't do anything. But your practice window, they could open it up.
This was always what I actually expected. But it seems like it won't open yet. You only have certain options on IR and when he hurt the hamstring for a second time and he had already been out at an extended period of time and then he heard it at ASU and none of it was four weeks. You know what I mean? None of it was like a quick turnaround. So that's where my hesitation has been on Tyson is that as a team that's performing well on the offensive side of the ball already. Like Tyler Shucks doing good things, leads the NFL and dropbacks, completion of bounce attempts. You take time on your rookie.
to make sure you don't re-injure the thing he's been hurt three times in a row on. Yeah, I do agree. But injury updates, Devante Smith, not seen practicing on Friday. He's almost certainly not playing. Now, DeAndre Swift, though, is expected to practice on Friday. So there's a little update for you. That's big news in case you thought you had Monongai by himself, which we talked about at the top. And then Terry McLaren popped up on the injury report with a hamstring for the first time. Rashad White listed is out officially for week four.
considered more limited. I'm perfectly fine putting Stefan Diggs back out there. I think Stefan Diggs is a fantastic start. Targets will be there. Yeah, targets will be there. Into the face off we go. Fantasy face off, presented by prize picks. Well, let's start this segment by saying that once again, amazingly, incredibly, unpredictably, Jason has whiffed on.
The easy green goblin pick each week. It's been my nemesis. I can hit all the hard ones. I can't get the goblins. Granted, I didn't. I wasn't the loser this. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. I appreciate you trying to shield me from some protection. My picks were bad. Last week. I didn't hit my goblin. No, so we have a wheel of shame and it's not Jason. Yeah. And it's not me. That's been. Wheel of.
Shame. All right. Give me the wheel. Spin it. Spin that shameful wheel, Mike. Yeah, it's deserved. Let's see. We got pigskin, blitz, breath, punt goblin, dumb cluck. Careful with that one. Whoa. So then I'm sitting in the cluck chair. Oh, very nice. Okay. All right.
