Week 4 Matchups + Start/Sits, Wheel of Shame! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/2

It was gross. That's why my face lit up when you're like, would you trade Jefferson for puka? Yeah, I know. And I'm like, of course. That's a chance I would take. We still don't know. We still don't know if Kyler and Jefferson is going to work. Did you see Ian Hartets? Shout out to the great Ian Hartett's. He's always got good tweets. Good tweets and stuff. Kevin O'Connell has coached 73 games in the NFL as the head coach of the Vikings. Not one time.

Has anybody had a worst single game passing success rate than Kyle Murray last week? It was the single worst performance at quarterback he's ever had, and he's had tons of backups. That would include games of J.J. McCarthy then? If I'm not mistaken. Brother, that would include games with Maximus Brosmer. Oh, my God.

Listen, you, look. We've tried to tell you, Minnesota. We've been here. We've watched it. We tried to tell you. I hope it improves. This is the matchup over Tyler. Oh, yeah. This is the matchup to have it improve. I mean, especially if you're talking fantasy, Kyler Murray is a guy that I think people are starting this week. Oh, gosh. He's mobile. He's on the ground. He's against the dolphins. He's on the ground physically. He's very close to it. Madison had nine targets, some deep targets. He caught one. He caught a touchdown. Aaron Jones. Where.

Where are you playing? Play Addison. Okay. And play other players in other games. I lean that way as well. So, yeah, and don't mess around with wide receivers from Miami in this matchup. It would be if you want to, if Chris Bell gets eight more targets this week, you know, and he catches three of them, which is the most likely outcome. You can, you can think about them in future weeks. Kansas City's three and all. They take on the, I'm sorry, they take on Andy's Las Vegas Raiders. That's what it's in the show. Wait a minute. Oh, I love it.

I love it. And by the way, it's in Las Vegas. Vegas line Kansas City minus four and a half. Oh, you're doing it on. Andy's almost upset of the wig. Riding the silver wave, boys. Grab your boards. If the Raiders win that game and are four and oh beating the division also leading, you know, Kansas City Chiefs, wow. This is a battle for first place, Jay. Like you said, Mahomes has never lost on the road to the Raiders ever.

So that's cool. The pass rush, the secondary, the number one fantasy defense right now in football is the Raiders. That's as far as the defense scoring fantasy points. Correct. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think that they're like anybody would argue that they're the very best. No, they're not a shutdown defense. They're playing much better than they were last year. Third against wide receivers? 10th against running backs.

The tight-in position, which the Chiefs, their top target is really Travis Kelsey, so that's an area where the Raiders have been beat. But I think it'll be a fun one. I really do. You start the big boys in this one. You start Kenneth Walker, Rashi Rice. Yeah, I think you're playing him. If you've been playing him, Gentie and Brock Bowers, Bowers looks unguardable. That'll be a challenge for the Chiefs. That's an area where, you know, they're willing to stay with the running game with Genty.

no matter what. It's not, you know, and Kubiak, who we love, like he's, he's unwilling to relent from giving those carries because he understands, and he did it last year, even inefficiently, right? He liked Charbonnet, and Charbonnet wasn't productive, but it unlocks parts of your offense. That is a philosophy that a lot of offensive coordinators have, is just where you keep linebackers, how many people are in the box, how you think about the offense. But Kirk Cousins right now tied with Purdy for league, lead, and touchdowns.

Anybody else? I mean, are you excited to see what happens? I am very excited to watch this game. If this is in Kansas City, I wouldn't have pushed that button. No, I mean, this is an exciting game. There's a lot of fantasy assets. This will be the real test. I mean, being a divisional matchup, they're prepared for each other very well. And you've seen, you've seen Max Crosby just be an absolute terror so far through three weeks.

Now he's going to have to see what he can do about Mahomes. I think this game comes down to Kenneth Walker. Can the Raiders shut down Kenneth Walker or not? And that will be the test. They're top ten against running backs, but they haven't been like some impossible to run on team. I just love these stories. I really do. Whether it's the Saints, the Browns, the Raiders, they're fun. You have an offseason of speculating and believing and seeing.

Vegas predictions on who wins divisions and how many wins they're going to have? I mean, what was the Vegas win total? Four and a half? What's funny is when you get to four this week. When you look at teams every year we talk about it, we talk about in the off season, we picked our teams that go from worst to first in the division. Basically every single time that happens, there is usually a coordinator, whoever the offense of mind is, head coach or coordinator shift.

You know, oftentimes it's that rookie quarterback, that new young quarterback coming in. And you look at the Raiders and you're like, oh, Fernando Mendoza, maybe we pick them to be the surprise. It's like, no. It's Kirk. It's Captain Kirk. So I don't know if there's big starts at decisions in this one other than like the kind of, you know, deep league emergency flexes of the trade tucker's of the world. But I think it's pretty straightforward fantasy wise, don't you? The trade talkers been fine.

in terms of a flex play would try to find somebody else. Are we feeling good about Rushie Rice? Yeah. His targets have gone up and up and up so far. I feel fine. I mean, if you had to predict his fantasy finish the rest of the way, I'd probably be at about wide receiver 24, 20 to 24, which is not what you might have hoped for, but still usable. I still think they're going to add a wide receiver at some point, via trade or via Tyreek.

Denver, 2 and 1, taken on the 3-0 San Francisco 49ers in San Francisco. 49ers are three-point favorites. The overrunner here, 47 and a half. I think there's a lot of question marks in this game. This one's not cut and dry at all. And, you know, the 49ers are dominating on the offensive side of the football. We talked about Purdy. He's leading the league in touchdown passes. McCaffrey, of course you play him. What's your thoughts on like the, you know, is McCaffrey what you thought he'd be so far?

I mean, he is performing. Yeah, he is. Running back seven on the year? I think he is. Running back four with 20 points against Miami, another 20 points against Arizona. He used to have the weird start with the Rams, especially with the snaps. That was, I think. They had the cramps, right? Yes, yeah, yeah. He reportedly had cramps that he was playing through, and they were beating the crap out of the Rams, and the rookie got on the field more than we expected.

If you're disappointed in McCaffrey right now, you're just letting week one be imprinted on you. He's been great for fantasy. He's going to be awesome against Denver, who has a run funnel. As great as their defense is, they just against running backs right now, they're 28th for in giving up fantasy price. It's a run-all for short. Maybe it's not. I was leaving it up to the jury. Oh, I'm sorry, man, the people. He'll keep saying funnel. I got you. We're back to the run funnel. You're playing McCaffrey. Yes.

But I'm saying you should not be disappointed. And honestly, I mean, we saw last year, even when he was inefficient, the loss of the wide receivers around him. It just meant they use him more and more and more. We don't know the health of Mike Evans. He didn't practice on Wednesday or Thursday with the rib injury. He still might go. And I think if he does, you probably just keep playing him. Play him when he plays through injury.

But there's a chance he sits. Brandon Cooks has been elevated to the active roster for this team. That's not a good sign. Feels like they have an infinite supply of like has-beens that they can yonk up to the starting roster. Infinite supply of last man up. I mean, play Debo. Dante Pettis. Yeah, he joined. Yeah. Former, former my guy for a minute. Debo is a play. The, the amount of volume, like the, he's only averaging 18 routes per game because of how San Francisco is playing right now. I don't love it.

Like, I mean, it's a better option, I will admit, but League of Record, like, I got Debo on the bench because I happened to have Braylon Allen as the replacement, but he is desperate. I would play him above like the Trey Tucker we just talked about, but confidence is not high. He was the last man standing, came through with a big fantasy day and yet had no catches. He had one play. Yeah, so it, which was weird. Like, how do you have Debo out there as the only guy?

Kittles should just keep getting better. Oh, goodness. Kittles is going to be good. George Kittal is awesome. So on the other side, though, I have my questions around the Jalen Wattle confidence level. Price Picks has them at six and a half targets, 56 and a half receiving yards. He is leading the team in first read target share. But if you've played Jalen Waddle this far this year, you were happy one third of the time. The last two weeks was... I play Waddle over Debo. Yeah, I would as well. It's crazy. Do you know his receiving yards in two of his games was two and ten?

two and 10. I just don't like, I just didn't think that, you know, we could get to the point with this team where, you know, you could have two games like that. Yeah, Waddle's that uninvolved. Agreed. That's crazy. That is crazy. It was Kansas City and the Rams, tough matchups. I feel like. He's supposed to be really good about the football. Yeah, I'm fine playing Waddle. I'm actually, I think he's going to have a very good game this week. Yeah, I mean, I play him over Debo. I agree with that.

Would you play him or Burden? I would play Waddle. I mean, this is not an easy matchup. I think Burden might be safer. They still can't run the football, and we'd be sitting here saying, hey, Jonah Coleman, can you fix that for him? But he's on IR. Dobbins averaging three and a half a carry, Denver averaging 81 rushing yards a game. That's 31st in the NFL. The conglomerate of Dobbins, Harvey and Company, Badee.

It's not getting it done to the degree that you are getting a lot of viable fantasy value. Yeah, I think that this matchup is a little bit, a little bit of a lie when you look at, you know, the current season stats that the 49ers have put up, their defense has been great. But, you know, it's like that you got to remember there was that weird Australia game where the Rams just didn't show up. Obviously the Rams are much better than that. Maybe it's all credit to the 49ers defense.

But then after that, it was the Miami Dolphins and the Arizona Cardinals. And the Arizona Cardinals put up 30 points on them. So this defense is pretty injured. And I just, I wouldn't think three weeks. And we talk about we want to have one more week before we know what defenses are what. I think the Denver Broncos are going to do okay. On the footcast yesterday that we, I think we'd feel more comfortable. We're getting that data in. But I think four weeks is where we really want to be.

to let those outlier games not weigh so heavily. Yeah, because last year, the 49ers were a defense you kind of targeted. Yeah. All right. We'll take a break and we'll talk America's team, the Chargers. There's something satisfying about being prepared before everybody else catches on. A fantasy lineup set early. The waiver claim submitted. And this year, having the holiday shopping handled before the last minute scramble begins. Amazon's prime...

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That's a small implied point total for the Chargers who might literally be without the only player that has made any of their passing downs look important. If Ladd is hurt, and even if he's... I mean, he's limping. Even if he's active, he's hurt. I don't imagine the Chargers offense doing very much. I was...

I was okay with Hampton in this. We had a bunch of questions through the week of like this guy or Hampton. And I was Hampton on most of them. The Ladd foot injury really is a big problem because when Ladd hasn't been out there, this offense has not been able to move the ball. This is a tough matchup on the road against Seattle. There's one player I'm paying close attention to this week because I believe the frustrations around Quentin Johnston are starting to bubble over to.

opportunities. And last week, Trey Harris did make a splash. Six for 76. If you're talking about Quentin Johnston, you know, having his challenges and then Lad being off the field and this team potentially losing in this game, that's the situation I'd be paying attention to. I think Trey Harris could be moving into a more prominent role. Yeah, he's good. I think he's worth a speculation stashed for the weekend. But, Mike, your view of Hampton versus Braylon Allen?