NFC South Breakdown + Traps, Pitts, and Unfortunate Last Names - Fantasy Football Podcast for 7/20

There's a built-in possibility that the other weapons in this offense are used as well. Like Antonio Brown may be very ancillary. And you may see who's the rookie from last year whose name is a statement. Tyler Johnson. You might see Tyler Johnson, Granikowski, the return of O.J. Howard. Gio Bernard. Scottie Miller. Like there's the possibility to me where like, you know, Brown is just kind of.

Occasionally there. It's a powerful, it's a powerful offense in general, but I will say this. I mean, he came in week nine, and from week nine on, he was the wide receiver 21, and that was with all of those pieces you're mentioning. And that's off the street. No, Howard and Bernard weren't there. Okay. There were two of the names I mentioned. O.J. Howard was not there. But, I mean, with that core, I'm talking about the main guys of Godwin and Mike Evans.

And that was including that first week where, you know, he came in and they scored three points. Yes, he is older. If someone's going to say, I don't care about age, it's that Tom Brady guy. Off of the Street plays eight games. And in five of those eight, which is, this is my point of him being in the 10th round, wide receiver 50. Five of his eight games, he finished inside the top 36. That's a wide receiver three.

playing for a high-powered offense in double-digit rounds. That's crazy to me. Okay. Anything else from this team? The tight-in position, are you avoiding Gronkowski? You're pretty impressive here for Gronkowski. Yeah, I think it's really, Gronk is a streaming option. He's a touchdown dependent tight-in like most of them outside the top five are. He's fine to stream on a weekly basis. I forgot to give you the Vegas win total for the Saints. Do you want to guess? I'm going to guess 12.

Whoa. I'll take the under. Yeah, definitely way under. Yeah, I win. Nine. Wow. Jason loves the Saints. I'd be fun when we picked this division because the win total for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers is 12, though, if that's what you meant. That is what I meant. Yeah. Did you really? Oh, is that what you meant? Yeah. I asked you about the Saints. Oh, no, I would not be 12. We were talking about the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, so I went 12. Yeah, but then he said the Saints. Well, I said, hey, I forgot to give you the win total of the Saints. What do you think it is? Okay.

All right. But you're nine. No, it's too late. You're locked in at 12. But I guess, yeah, if you did think it was the Bucks, you were right. It was 12. Let's move on to the Panthers last year, five and 11. They were three and eight and one score games. Okay. I'm not sure Donald's going to help that. 24th and points per game. 30th and base of play. It wasn't great. Teddy Bridgewater is gone. Mike Davis has gone. Curtis Samuel is gone.

Sam Darnold has arrived. Dan Arnold has arrived. They only added rhyming names. That's the goal. And then you get Christian McCaffrey back. I mean, he's not a player edition for this offseason, but he is, right? He's back. They drafted Terrace Marshall Jr. in the second round, who I love. They drafted Chuba Hubbard to play the backup role in a way that...

you know, maybe Mike Davis really even couldn't, you know, somebody that's a little bit more versatile in the passing game. He's got, he has juice. Yeah, which Mike Davis, he's squeezing all the juice out. Yeah, he's doing that thing where the boxes are already crumpled and you're like, yeah, I got a little bit left in the, just a couple drops left, please. I'm not, genuinely, I mean, but. Thirsty. Between the division, the change of quarterback. Um,

I'm not that excited for this offense. I really am not. I don't know that Sam Darnel is the answer. Actually, I'm fairly sure he's not. I think Christian McCaffrey is locked and loaded. What if the question is name a quarterback that will not change the outcome of your team? Sam Darnel. Okay. But McCaffrey last year, he played three games, and he ended up with as many top six weeks as Aaron Jones had. Can I guess was it three?

In his three games, did he end with three top six? Yes. Yes, because he is unfathomably great. I'm on the other side, Andy. I am crazy excited about Carolina Panthers options in fantasy football in the draft. When it comes to, obviously, McCaffrey is all of our 101. So he's guys just draft him if you're at 101. Don't, don't overthink it. He's.

unbelievably better than everyone else for fantasy so long as he's healthy, which is, you know, what we have to assume. But I love the value on DJ more still. You know, I think he's being drafted at basically where his floor is. And if touchdowns come his way, he has Terry McLaurin type of ability to break out to me. Robbie Anderson is left for dead.

He had over 1,100 yards and like 120 plus targets last year. Now he's reunited with Sam Darnold. I love, I mean. Is that good or is that bad? Well, he's definitely drafted at his floor right now to me. So I look at these options and I'm very excited. And then I like Terrace Marshall. This is a team last year that with a sucky, Teddy Bridgewater still had three different thousand yard from scrimmage offensive guys. And I think another year under Jaw Rule.

And they're going to go out there. I don't think so. Murder. Will you water bet me the Vegas win total? No, it's not wins. This is fantasy football production. I don't think they're going to win that many games. But if there is a water bet on value for fantasy points, we can find that. And I will definitely bet it. I just think if the wins don't come, it really disrupts the consistency from those positions. And you saw that last year. I mean, Robbie Anderson started on fire. You say he's being drafted at his floor, wide receiver 34.

From week six on, he was the wide receiver 37 last year. So that's probably fair. And that was his bad stretch, right? From week six on was, yeah. He was the wide receiver 8 through the first five weeks. It was just, even though the end of year numbers were there, I think we can all admit DJ Moore, Robbie Anderson, and Curtis Samuel were probably started the least of all thousand yard receivers because they were all very difficult to predict because of that, the way that that team went. So either way.

I mean, I agree with you. I think DJ Moore has tons of potential. And I think Robbie Anderson is probably, you know, in the seventh round being drafted. Like I'd take, I'd rather have Robbie in the seventh than Antonio Brown in the 10th if it's me. But I just think it's very hard to predict who's going to be good and win. Yeah, the touchdown anomaly of DJ Moore, it will truly go down. If it happens again.

If DJ Moore is 1100 yards, four, five receiving touchdowns, this is like, this is Lochness Monster, Bigfoot type of stuff that just, how is this, this is impossible that to be that good, his athletic profile is absurd. He's one of the best youngest wide receivers in the game who has had nothing but incredible production since he's came into the league. The touchdowns,

simply have not happened where if you look at well that's there was a hulio thing too right i mean there became something that you just accept about a player yes and through you know this is this would be the fourth straight year at that point you have to just you can't sit there and hope yeah and that yeah i'm i'm in in agreement with you i but i lean more with jason's that i believe in dj more the the player if you're looking at you know average yard yards turn into touchdowns like this is just

what happens in the NFL. And if you look at the average amount of yards, the receiver has per how many touchdowns they have, I mean, he should have closer to 18 in his three seasons instead of 10. Like that's some really bad touchdown variance luck. I agree with that independent of the reality of quarterback, because I don't know if we can count on the least consistent quarterback in the last two years. Oh, yeah.

I mean, that's a hard thing, right? I mean, he threw nine touchdowns last year. You are 100% correct. I mean, everything here that I want to love these options so much, and I do. Like, I genuinely am bullish on these wide receiver options for where they're being drafted. And then at the end of it, I always circle back to Sam Darnel because it's like Teddy Bridgewater last year threw 3% touchdown rate. That is horrifically bad. That's really bad, yeah.

Donald was worse. Yeah. Donald had 2.5, but Donald the years prior were 4.3, but you know, he has been league average. Last year he had a very shortened season and sucked with Adam Gase. So since entering the league in 2018 via Rich Rebar, uh, Donald is 42nd and red zone completion rate 38th and touchdown rate. 40 seconds out of 43 out of 43. That.

Dang it, man. So you don't, what he's failed to do is literally produce touchdowns in the red zone. Like, he's the worst in football. And I don't know if, like, it may take a couple of years to fully de-gays. You know what I mean? Sure. So that's scary. That's why I say it's a scary team to me. I would take the, I'd be smashing the Vegas under. Justin Fields was there for you to take. Yeah. Shame on you. Carolina. This team would be.

So, I mean, I would be so excited for the prospects of this team with Justin Fields. All right. Are you excited about this next squad? The 4 and 12 Falcons. They were 0 in the first five games. They were 0 in their final five games. That's a bookended failure. Two and eight and one score games. And now Todd Gurley. See you. Julio Jones. Farewell. The former.

departure better than the latter one. Mike Davis was added to the running back room. Now, they were already 27th and rushing yards last year and 20th and rushing attempts. So Mike Davis comes in and fills the role of running back, but Mike Davis does not come in, in my opinion, like a drafted, Najee Harris would have, and demand that the running back gets more of the offense. And so I guess I would say it gives some predictability to the fact that the past attempts and the passing yards

will be the focal point of the offense once again with Matt Wright. Yeah, it really will be. And we've talked about it. It's ironic you bring up Najee Harris. Najee Harris demanding more workload. I actually see it somewhat similar, not in any way, shape, or form of demanding. I agree completely with you. But in the sense that there's just not a lot of other options there. So at the end of the season, I think that Mike Davis will have a lot of use, but the running game for the Atlanta Falcons will be.

So have all the pie, but the pie will be smaller. Exactly. Very James Robinson from last year, right? The Jacksonville Jaguar's running game was bad, and yet James Robinson was good because he just got all of the small pie. That's what I see here, but he is not quite as good as James Robinson, but he'll catch the ball. So I think Mike Davis is a good fantasy option for where he's being drafted. Nobody really wants him. He's the running back 27. His ADP is shocking to me.

Like Mike Davis, getting that contract, what he did last year, he just reeks of a round four running back. Right in that area where the known good starters are gone, great wide receivers there, but you freak out and you go, I got to get a starting running back so you take Mike Davis. But the fact that he's holding in the sixth, I think I know why. I think I know why. And if you talk to people from Atlanta,

They're expecting other names to emerge beyond the names that we're familiar with. So Tony Brooks, James, or Javian Hawkins are names that I think people in Atlanta are expecting to be able to potentially, you know, pull the Philip Lindsay year and come out and really take it. Like if you split this running game up.

then it becomes really unattractive because of the fact that there'll be in the bottom third in rushing attempts. And so I've heard a lot of people from Atlanta kind of saying, hey, watch out for Brooks James or somebody else to come in here and threaten Mike Davis because if Davis has it to himself, he does represent it. Yeah, and I think we've basically explained to the backfield well. The odds of these undrafted.

rookie free agents coming in and pulling of Philip Lindsay are historically low, but obviously they have an opportunity ahead of them because it is such a sparse running back room. I do like Mike Davis as a value in the 6th round. If he stays there, that's where it's like, you know, he catches the ball enough and Matt Ryan's going to be throwing enough to where he should be fine for fantasy. Mike Davis or Ronald Jones. Mike Davis. I'm Ronald Jones. Okay. I don't blame you.

Calvin Ridley. Oh, man. Oh, man. Really not any good arguments against Calvin Ridley. Oh, man. Calvin Ridley's going to. Oh, wait, wait. I got a good one. Oh, go, please. Okay. Are you ready? He had a bad combine. Calvin Ridley is going to be so good.