The TRUTH About Fantasy TEs in 2020 + Super Bowl Reactions - Fantasy Football Podcast for 2/9

I mean, look, if you're, if you're the Texans, the best thing you can do is find some way to keep him. Yes, one thousand percent. The reason that rumors of three, four first rounders and three, four second rounders, that's because that's what he's worth. And you, you'd be losing somebody worth that many picks and set your team back forever. Yeah. It's really up to Deshaun Watson. It's a matter of how, how much hardball is he willing to play? Is he willing to sit out? Is he willing to say, no, like, you will trade me?

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The exercise thing, it's new again. It's new again. New to me. All right. I'm going to have to get out there with you guys. Mike needs to be humbled. He's just taking over the court. Impossible. We'll see. You want answers? I think I'm entitled. You want answers. I want the truth. You can handle the truth. All right. Our final truth episode of the season. That's right, Brooks. The final one?

Yes, sir. Okay, the truth of the tight end position in 2020. We finally know everything. Yeah, we've been trying to understand the tight end position for a while, and now completed. Done. Great games. This is what we classify a great game as 15 or more fantasy points as we look at player consistency. Ten or more fantasy points is a good game. Seven or fewer is a bust game. And we're walking through all of the tight ends that finished.

We'll probably get through the top 10 or so. And then if there's other players you guys want to talk about, you can bring them up. So if you are keeping track at home, that means you catch one touchdown for 10 yards and you have not had a bust. Yeah, I guess that's true. And because that's really what you're hoping for from your tight end. We set the bar where they set it, which is low. The truth about tight ends as a whole is that for the...

Let me check my math. Fourteenth year in a row, we have thought there is a good list of candidates that could break out. Maybe this year is different, and the tight-in position is a little bit more deep, and it was wrong. I can't wait to do it again. I can't wait for next year. My favorite part of every year. Yeah, but this year, it'll be even better because we'll be optimistic about the list of potential breakouts, and we will be hyping up a rookie tight-in.

Mr. Kyle Pitts. It will say, is this the year that a rookie tied in can do it as well? Oh, man, what if he stinks? Oh, is that an armpit joke? It was. It was an attempted one. I didn't get it. No, stinky pits. Yeah, no, I mean, I... You know what I'm saying? Once it was explained, you know, that it was an armpit joke, I was, I was there. You were all the way there? I was all the way there. You didn't have to make any leaps? Here's the thing. I will, I will say this from experience. We've done the show for a long time, played fantasy for a long time.

When you do hit on the someone outside the top 10 projected tight ends, and they're a home run. That is maybe, that's a top five type of moment for your fantasy team. When you hit on the player, Julius Thomas, the year that Peyton Manning came to Denver. The Walrus, the Walrus, the Walrus. I was going to say, we've had a good run over the last couple of years of picking that, even all the way back to Zackertz, his breakout, the Walrus, and Mark Andrews.

We'll tell you exactly who it's going to be. So maybe we'll talk about some outside the top 10 players that we like going into next year on today's show and then regression candidates because there are some numbers that jump out at the tight end position that make you go, wow, that's not a lot of receptions for a lot of production and that type of thing. So Travis Kelsey comes in at number one. It's not complicated. 87% good game, 7% bus, 67% great. Oh, ho-hum, what, fifth straight year at the number one position for the tight end? I mean, that's...

That's unbelievable. Yes, he has been an advantage. Second best tight-in fantasy season of all time, by the way. Wow. Yeah. 105 receptions, 1416 yards and 11 touchdown. Really the only questions, because the truth is Travis Kelsey is Zeus. He's the best pass-catching tight-in in the game right now, and he is in the perfect offensive system with a quarterback that likes to supply him with targets. The only question for Travis Kelsey is, what do you believe the truth is?

next year, will he hold up and will he continue? Not that. He won't give you the second best tight-end season of all time every single year, but does he hold up? Because if he does, then he is absolutely worth a late first-round pick or an early second-round pick, and we're back at this stage where we were playing this game with Rob Gronkowski and Jimmy Graham a few years ago. Yeah, I mean, the reality is when...

When you have a player finish five years in a row as the number one at the position, at a position that is very difficult if you don't get one of those top three guys to stream, to find the weekly starts, to have any kind of positional advantage. Yeah, if he plays 16 games next year, he is worth the first round pick. And...

I will happily select him. 208 was where he was drafted last year. There's more to it as well. Not only do you get the positional advantage, all that, but you actually get extra bench spots. You get more roster flexibility when you're not having to play the waiver wire game and spending fab and spending waiver priorities and making all those decisions. It really allows you to look elsewhere in your roster. But of course, the.

It won't last forever. He'll be 32 years old next year. As of right now, I'm 100% in on him being the number one tied in next year. There's just nothing we've seen on the field. You know, Super Bowl was yesterday. He had 10 catches for 130 yards or something. It was the quietest, greatest game of all time. Yeah, I mean, if you're betting Kelsey or the field to finish number one next year, my money's on Kelsey again.

Yeah, I think that's a smart bet. So no, no huge information there. Travis Kelsey, the number one again, draft him as the number one tight end. And could be good for you for fantasy, as always. Before we get to number two, we want to thank today's sponsors. Hello Fresh. Hello, Fresh is often in my belly, and it's always in my heart. Hello, Fresh, you get pre.

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All right, number two at the tight-in position number two in consistency, Darren Waller. You want to hit that drop? Yeah. So let's look at the truth of Darren Waller. 69% good games, 31% great, 25% bust. All the while, 107 receptions again this year, 1,100 yards, 9 touchdowns, on a team that had an offense that was far less consistent than Darren Waller was.

And this offense tried to do a full reboot over the, I mean, they spent their first round pick on a wide receiver. They spent a third round pick on a wide receiver. I was personally concerned with Darren Waller because he was, he was a volume stud last year. And I wasn't sure that that would sustain over the next season. And holy crap, Darren Waller is excellent. And he just proved that.

the targets have to go his way. I think we all worried a little bit about the volume and what was coming in this year. I definitely did. And it seems like what happened was Darren Waller has now established himself as potentially a tier above Mark Andrews. Because volume, I mean, that goes a long way. He still is a touchdown threat, nine touchdowns. He was, according to ESPN, the most commonly rostered tied in among champions this year. And per Peter Chung, our writer,

If you only counted weeks 7 through 17, he still would have finished at number two, which tells me that there was a separation there between him and Mark Andrews this year in particular, or even, you know, Robert Tunyon, where is Waller locked and loaded as the number two next year? I don't think he is locked and loaded as the number two. The 145 targets is why he was so great this year. The question is going to be...

What do the Raiders do in the offseason? Mike brought up they really tried to revamp their wide receiver court. It didn't work. I mean, their two rookies were huge disappointments for them this year. Their big acquisition, their number one wide receiver became Nelson Anglord. Like, yeah, 145 targets are going to Waller, and that's not to take anything away from Waller. The talent is there. He demanded those targets, and he could get them again. But should the Las Vegas Raiders go out and sign Alan Robinson?