Week 9 Studs & Duds + Field of Dreams, Monday Punday - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/7

Kind of a weird day for Jefferson still got it done, but their offense wasn't really cruising for most of the game. And Cooper Cup's ankle is fine, seven for one, 20, and one. Especially when you don't guard him. That helps his ankle look better. So insane. The touchdown was just a wide open. Cooper Cups just running down the field. It's a good throw. Oh, it was a good throw. It was definitely a good throw, but I'm saying this like any quarterback wide receiver combo. With that play, should have scored a touchdown. And you're giving that to Cooper Cup? It's insanity. It's just, I mean, defenses, man, they hand players off in zone defenses. And if that communication breaks down, the superstars, Cooper Cup, Travis Kelsey, those guys. I mean, Cooper Cup is very fast. He's a great athlete. But he's not like Tyreek Hill speed. And every game, you have a couple deep passes where he's just wide open. It's unbelievable.

Christian Kirk, Mike, start of the week, bounce back, eight for 76 and one. Nice to see. Jalen Waddle, seven targets, five for 85 and a touchdown. Jalen Waddle has been a PPR king this year. He is the wide receiver what? Why don't you guess for me in a half point? Wide receiver five? Four. Wide receiver four this year. Last two weeks, Waddle's been inside the top six. And that's with Tyreek Hill still out. performing him half the time. It's crazy. So our Draft Kings lineup, you had Jalen Waddle. Yeah. So much cheaper. Yeah. And he was a great play. And yet he was the wrong play. Oh, yeah. I got shame this week. Yeah, you did. It's back to me for one week. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Sure. Other big games, you can call them out if you have interest in talking about him. Lazard, Samuel, Lockett. Palmer with 10 targets. Lizard, four for 87 and a touchdown. Uh,

A just devastating for me personally, Lazard with like a 40 or 50 yard reception goes down on the one, which then I believe turned into devastation for the Packers because it turned into an interception in the end zone. The Green Bay game was so bizarre of just one yard here or there. And it's a drastically different game. But it ended up the way it did and was devastating loss. Darnal Mooney went 7 for 43 in a touchdown. Yeah, baby. You had AJ Brown's big Thursday night. How about this? Garrett Wilson. Yeah. Nine targets with Zach Wilson, eight for 92 in this game. Very good game. He's going on by now, which is bad timing. Yeah.

And then Terrace Marshall. Oh, yeah, baby. I mean, I don't know if that reaction was appropriate, but he did catch a touchdown pass. We don't know if we'll ever be able to say his name again. But it is two weeks in a row. We talked about DJ Moore being gone or DJ Moore has been great now that Robbie Anderson and Christian McCaffer had gone. But. Terris Marshall behind the scenes, nine targets last week for 87 yards, six this week, 53 in a touchdown. Baker's, he's only 22 years old. Take it over. Come on, Terrace, be a thing. What, and I don't have the answer to this. Maybe you guys do. Is there an untrade policy in the NFL? Like could the, what? Could the Arizona Cardinals undo the Robbie Anderson trade? Oh, an untray. Yeah.

And you know, or just. Like a return to sender? Yeah. Like send them back. And you know what? No compensation. Keep the picks. Right. We're just going to send you Robbie Anderson back to improve our team. This isn't a warranty claim. This is just you're returning the item. Yeah. Gently used. Yeah. Get off the team, Robbie. Goodness. What was that? Dallas got it eight for 100. Cole Commet scored twice. He is a touchdown dart throw right now. Travis Kelsey, 17 targets. 10 receptions. Yeah. He also had a big one called back on penalty. Kate Otten, he is a potentially interesting glance at the tight-in position. He's worth streaming when Brade is out. Well, and also when they play Seattle, like next week.

Yeah, because Seattle played Zach Ertz who scored against him. Five for 40 and touchdown. Noah Fant went five for 96. The Arizona Cardinals could not stop a singular kind of like tight end goes out, flares right, play action, roll. Give it to the tight end, let him run forever. All season long. I mean, we have been. saying over and over, you start tight ends against Seattle and you start tight ends against Arizona. They just happened to play each other. And so all tight ends were great in that situation. But yeah, I mean, keep starting tight ends against those two teams. T.J. Hawkinson, nine targets, nine for 70. That was surprising and great to see. Super involved. He played 90 plus percent of snaps. I think 85 plus percent of passing routes ran. He's going to be a part of this offense. Caught every single target. Yeah.

I mean, his floor looks higher than it was. Obviously, look, you're going from Jared Goff to Kirk Cousins. It's not Patrick Mahomes, but that's an upgrade. And apparently. Also, KJ. Osborne, zero. Also, a very shredded Kirk Cousins. Did you see the video of dancing in the airplane? I was shocked. And you're like, dude, who's this jacked guy? Kurt Cousins. Yeah. He's, uh. I would have thought he would be more, more manning. More manning. Yeah, that's more manning. But no, he's just, he's got a six-pack, big old guns. Like, good for you. His packs were gigantic. What was that all about?

Like Kurt Couss is a lot of Kirk Cousins talk. I'm just saying he's a physique. He's supposed to look like us. He's the athlete that's supposed to make me have hope that I could actually do what they're doing. It's not it. He's not it. And then he takes his shirt off and he's stupid, sexy Flanders. I think, I think he works out. I really do. Ducers, you got any thoughts on the Kurt Cousins? They share our beliefs. Borg. Borg, Borg, do you got any thoughts? Looks great. You've been using the Bowflex, I guess. Okay. I just had to Google it because I hadn't seen it. But he's iced out too. He's got a lot of drip on there. Well, they were, I think they were Sharon on the plane. Yes. I don't think those belong to him. No. The muscles do. The muscles are his. My goodness. All right. He's, that's 7.1, right? Yeah. And I believe they played Buffalo this week. Really? Yeah. So that should be. I keep expecting them to lose games. They should have lost that game against the manders, but they didn't. But manders going to mander. Yeah.

We are, we're moving on. Pooped in his big boy pants. He was very happy in that video, too. Just really enjoying himself. Seven and one makes you happy. Beating your former team makes you happier. Yeah. That's fair. You like that? Justin Herbert. I mean, one touchdown, 245 yards, played Atlanta who were dead last against the quarterback. He has been a massive. Through the ball to Michael Bandy a lot. A massive disappointment for fantasy this year. And I think at no fault of his. I mean, your weapons have been not there all year. He's been okay without Keenan, but not great. Now he's got no Keenan, no Mike Williams. Like you said, you're throwing it to Bambi. That's hard to have a great fantasy day. And I would say going forward, until you get these weapons back, you have to look at Justin Herbert as an average quarterback, not a league-winning fantasy asset.

Yeah, I made the move on from Herbert this past week, going with Tua moving forward because those weapons are too good. Aaron Rogers. Hey, Aaron. Oh, man. Three interceptions, all three basically goal line picks. Well, the Detroit defense, Jason, don't forget, they were ranked 30 second in yards per play, 30 second in scoring, 30 second in yards per pass attempt. So they obviously were pretty stout. If the Packers can't. figure it out against Detroit. They can't figure it out. Yeah, you've got to bail out, man. Dallas, Tennessee, Philadelphia. Speaking of bailing out, I was telling Mike this weekend, you know, the number one team, I mean, I was looking at the streamfinder tool on our website, the fantasy footballers.com. What a great website. I was looking at the streamfinder tool, the number one team that you want to play your defense against in the league, the Los Angeles Rams, who didn't do anything to change that opinion this week.

10 fantasy points for Matthew Stafford. He may be an enticing name that you want to stream, but it is not. Yeah, don't fall for it. Don't do it. Running back duds. I brought up last week how bad Leonard Fournett's yards per carry was. He said, hey, I'm going to go nine for 19 on the back of that. Doesn't matter. That's not what we're looking for. No, we're looking at the dump truck. Five for. Five for 41. 41 again. That's good enough for running back 21 when you. when you have six teams on by. The running backs were also bad. I mean, Lenny is not, he's not getting it done though. No. On the ground. Well, the bucks aren't getting it done. I mean, the whole offense, the offense of line, everything looks like a collapse. I know they eked out the win somehow at the end of that game, but I mean, it was, it's bad news for the bucks. Bad news bucks? Eight for 19, nine for 24, nine for 19, the last three weeks for Mr. Fournette. So.

I don't know what you want to do with him. It makes me nervous. I know he can catch the football. I guess you just keep playing him. Dude. They said last week five carries was a little too much for him. Yeah. So they said game two. Also, DeAndre Swift went down on the one on a reception, just brutal, a brutal beat. But here, the worst part for DeAndre Swift is you're probably better off not playing him. And yet. He's D'Andre Swift, and I was talking about him on Sunday Live saying what you're hoping for is week two, which was his touches were not drastically different than this, that he got in this game, but he's D'Andre Swift. I believe you said massive sketch, like super sketchy. Yes, but he can do things on extremely limited work, and you're hoping that he gets it done on the targets, but.

I don't even know when is the green light for DeAndre Swift. 24 carries for Jamal Williams, two for DeAndre Swift. They won the ball game. And DeAndre Sift has said he's not going to be 100% this year. So this is very, very nerve-wracking. Yeah. It's reminiscent of last year where, you know, he missed time in the middle of the year, came back and you kept waiting for him to be like full go. And it never happened. And it seems like it might not happen. Yeah. And it might not happen ever. Like when a running back has been injured as often as the Andre Swift has, it's very difficult for a team to suddenly come out the next year and say, yeah, you're our guy for every down. Like you couldn't stay healthy when you weren't our guy for every down. So why would you, you know, it's tough. The Barry Sanders curse is real. The bears didn't need running backs in this game. They had the.

quarterback running for 178, but David Montgomery and Colo Herbert were both real bad. 14 for 36 for Montgomery, 7 for 23 for Herbert, two targets for Monty, none for Herbert, Papu. Yeah, but I'm washing that away. Detroit, Atlanta coming up, I'm still happy to play David Montgomery, and I think you can flex Herbert. Yeah, I mean, I'm going to take the happy out of that sentence from myself. That's fine. I will play David Montgomery. But he hasn't gone over 70 rushing yards in one, two, three, four, five, six weeks. And it's, it makes me scared. Okay. Deante Foreman. Whoops. Three fantasy points or something like that. So, hmm, not good. Nope. Dion Jackson. Mike, you called it. You said it on Sunday live that Dion Jackson, everyone's trading for him, want to play him. Yeah.

He did get hurt. He did. He caught two passes. But he was incredibly inefficient up until that point. I'm surprised he caught two passes. That performance by Sam Ellingager was disgusting. It's Ellingergerger. Whatever it is, is doo-doo because that was terrible. And the defense was keeping them in the game. If Matt, I feel it in my bones. If Matt Ryan was playing in that game, it wouldn't have been fantastic. But there is at least a chance they could have won the game. There was a 0% chance you're winning with Sam Ellinger. And it's so rough because every bad play he makes is compounded by my brain telling me they named him the starter for the rest of the season. Yeah, because they. And that's not his fault for being named that. It's just that shouldn't be the case. You shouldn't come out and give a guy who's never had to start the rest of the season when you were like 3, 3 and 1 or something when that happened. Yeah. I mean, I get it.

If I'm a Colts fan, I'm looking for them to lose every game. As a fan, but a coach and the players of the team, they are never, ever looking for that. Completely agree. As fans were like, yeah, trust the process because it's not our job. We're not going to get fired. No, the players of the coach want to win for sure. That's why all the players were like shocked when it happened. Another thing Mike mentioned on Sunday Live, the worry that Gibson and Robinson would both be very inefficient on the ground. Gibson was 11 for 36. Brian Robinson against Minnesota, 13 for 44. They split snaps. Three targets for Gibby, two for Robinson. That was kind of the... Did he really have negative six? Yeah. Brian Robinson? It was like, remember they ran them on that like wide receiver screen? They play Philly next week, so... I mean, GameScript says Antonio Gibson should be a fine play. Let's throw in the...

fill in the gaps of the J.D. McKissick injury. So he started missing practice last week. You're like, okay, well, I don't know if this is a big deal. But then by Friday, they said McKissick is out with a neck injury. And the reminder, last year when we lost McKissick for the season, it's because he had a head and a serious neck injury. And the team has said, we're treating, we're going to treat this appropriately. And it feels like McKissick might be in some danger of, of, Maybe missing the season, I don't know, but at least missing some time. So the three targets here to Antonio Gibson with no Jady McKissick was very surprising. Yeah, it was a tough matchup. Minnesota's defense has been playing good. It's a tough matchup this week. But I would agree with you. We don't have the information on the McKissick injury, but it is possible that this could just be the end. And if it is, then he's a good target because Antonio Gibson, he was in on the passing downs, in on all the.

the two-minute drills. He will get that passing work. It just wasn't really there in this game. And going forward, he should have enough utilization to be fantasy relevant. And secondary to him, Brian Robinson will be involved because they split snaps. And if you play Houston, Atlanta, there could be better game scripts for him. Devin Singletary was on the field a ton, not a great fantasy day. Naeem Hines uninvolved, one target. Didn't do anything. And then the running backs for the chiefs. I mean, what do you even do at this point? I mean, Clyde Edwards, four for five. Pacheco, five for five. McKinnon three for four. And Edwards, Alair, had one of the worst. I don't, I don't know if you guys saw this particular play. 17% of snaps. But his goal line carry was just one of the worst efforts I've seen because.

The way that the play was evolving, he got the hand off, he rolled over to the right to go on the outside of the line. It looked like it was just the easiest walk-in touchdown and he was too slow. The defender makes up the ground and then stone walls. It was like Clyde. The other talented running backs score right there. You're supposed to be a first round pitch. Not Najee. Naji wouldn't have scored there either. I think Naji was at least 50-50 to still get in right there. Imagine starting the year with James Robinson, Clyde Edwin, Naji Harris. Oh, man. On top of the world. You were feeling good. And the ground beneath you crumbled away. Wide receiver duds, Mike Evans and Chris Godwin, they're not doing it. 21 targets. They combine for like...

12 for 76 yards. It was a disgusting game on both sides of the field. The bucks figured it out there against the prevent defense of the Rams enough to win the game, but it was. They need to blank check Robert Gronkowski right now. Mike Evans got hurt in this game if you didn't see. Right in the beginning. Right in the beginning just got smushed, I believe was the technical term. The scientific. definition of what happened. And hurt his ribs, got him wrapped up. You could tell the whole game he was not a happy camper playing through it, but man, the Buccaneers are really good to drop at the ball lately. Yeah, it's gross. And then this one was really surprising. I'm on Ross St. Brown at home, just four for 55. What the heck? And then we can pan back to Deucer's Alley if we want. Take a look at Pity City over there in the corner.

Yes. We built this city. We did. Shouldn't I let Ellen Gigergerger in? We did build the city. And then Frank Racking Company came in like a wrecking ball. Did you say Frank Racking Company? I said Frank Riking Company. Oh, I heard wrecking company. I mean, that's good. But I mean, computer liked it. Michael Pittman, six targets, three for 22. I mean, not only was Pittman deleted from the fantasy sphere with the change of quarterback, which to. Jason's credit, he feared greatly. And, you know, with the yards that he was putting up before, I thought maybe he could be sustained. I thought he would be okay for four. But Alec Pierce's flexibility was deleted as well. I mean, at least with Matt Ryan, you kind of wanted to play him. You wanted to see what you got, you know? Like maybe something exciting is going to happen. No. And Jonathan Taylor. Sam, I can't. Oh, very nice. If Jonathan Taylor actually comes back next week, which I don't think he will.

But if he does, and he's 100% healthy, he is not fixing this team. No. No, he's not. It's the Raiders next week. Okay. Next week may be okay. Fire up your Sam Ellinger. Tyler Boyd, Terry McLaren, Alan Robinson. Yeah. Gabe Davis, just two for 33 in what seemed like a good situation with sauce gardener on Stefan Diggs. I traded Gabe Davis away this past week. And my justification for that is not that Gabe Davis can't give you a big week. But I think that there are players that are foundation players and there are players that aren't to the offense. And I think that somebody, like I traded him in a deal to get Jalen Waddle. So I think Jalen Waddle is a foundational player to the offense. And I think Dave Davis is not yet that. Agreed.

and yet can have monster games. It's just sometimes that's the differentiator between what you want on your roster, what you don't. Like, Gabe's a great flex. If I have them in a flex position, I can get a monster week. Sure. But I felt nervous in the wide receiver 2 because, I don't know. Sometimes they don't need them. Yeah, you want more consistency from your wide receiver 2 spot, but very few wide receivers have the ability to go out and be the number one overall wide receiver on a week. So the upside is there, and that's why when you have them as a third wide receiver or a flex option, you can win a week with him. Do you know that, and I hadn't really looked at this until just now, but do you know he's on pace for 43 receptions? I mean, and I'm not talking recent weeks. I'm talking about for the year, like his yearly pace. He's only had more than three receptions in a game one time. That was week one.

His catch percentage on his type of targets is very low. Right. What's his? 93 target base for 39 receptions. Yeah. He's always been one of those guys where it's like most plays are. Take a shot. Chuck it super deep, which is where, you know, if he catches it, you had a great fantasy day. And if it doesn't, then you're like, oh, next week. But don't worry. Is company in the. Wide receiver room. Isaiah McKinsey, Khalil Shakir, did nothing. DJ Moore, we flew too close to the sun. Yep. And we should have known that like Icarus, he would fall upon the earth, two for 24, a no good. And this was a game where they were down from the very, very beginning. You would have thought you could get some garbage time from DJ Moore in this one? Yeah, but you would. They put Baker in for the garbage time. That was the problem. You had an angry Cincinnati Bengals team.

Coming off the embarrassing loss. Yeah, Devante Smith, just two catches. Yep. Jacoby Myers is just five for 42? That's not that bad. That's not that bad. How dare you, Brooks? A little disappointed. You expect more from Jacoby. No, you're right. You're right. He goes on by, though. Jacobi has been very good, so this is very beneath him. Yep. Great job, Brooks. The tight-in position. I got a big problem here, fellas. Yeah? I still believed in Tyler Higby after the six targets on very, very limited snaps. Right, but now you're done with that, right? It turned into the goose egg, and I'm trying to look forward. Okay, next week, what's going on with the tight end position? Who are you going to pick up a play, right? And then I see that Tyler Higby is playing the Arizona Cardinals. You lock them in. You lock him in. I'm telling you, it's one of those like, no, no, you can't do that. Higby's done. He's toast. He's not getting targets.

He's, he, five for 50 is the baseline against Arizona. Andy's saying no, but. I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't do it just because his snap percentages are going down so much. The involvement seems to be schemed out. Maybe they change it. Maybe he's good. He's high, he's high risk next week. Let's put it that way. I mean, no offense did it. Every, because everybody does it. If you have, if you're labeled a tight end, you get it done against the Cardinals. Not Disley though, right? I mean, he was okay. If you roll that dice with Disley, you're saying like in context of perspective of like, would you ever play Will Disley in fantasy? The answer has been no. So what are you going to do? I want to know. I'll tell you on Friday. You could, uh, I try my best guys, Kyle Pitts. Kyle Pitts, I think led the team past catchers in fantasy points. He was two for 27. He also led the NFL in air yards.

Marcus, somebody asked me, like, what's the problem here between Kyle Pitts and Marcus Marriota? Because Pitts was open downfield a ton. The problem, I surmise, is Marcus Mariotta's arm. Sure. It is not manufactured properly. It's a top culprit. Yeah, it's not. He had him open, but if you can't throw him the ball, that is the issue. To be fair, he did drop one of the three. He had three big bomb. He dropped on? Yeah. He had three big bomb plays down the field that were just what you dream of for Kyle Pitts. Two of them were absolutely uncatchable. They're not actually air yards. Technically it was going to him, but not really. And then he had another one. You juiced the air yards because it was 15 yards over his head. Right, exactly. But he did drop one of them that he should have caught. So, uh,

Gerald Everett was a disappointment this week. You expect a lot more from him. Big time. He had the same amount of receptions as Michael Bandy, who will be the kind of, he's the example of what you don't want. This poor guy. He's doing his best. Five or 26. He's doing his best. It's hard to walk on ice. He lost his mom. Yeah. Did he go to a hunter? I like it. That was the same. Breaking news. Holy crap. Frank Reich is fired. Frank Reich is out. I told you. I told you this is going to happen. Oh, that's probably. Adam Schefter verified Twitter account. Frank Reich is out. I can't wait to find out the details because I'm saying he probably went and was like, I bet he was. I'll bet he's like I'm not. I'm not doing this anymore. I'm putting Matt Ryan back in. Yeah. There's got to be something going on. Wow. Because this isn't, it's not his fault. He was told put in.

Sam Ellenager. Oh my gosh. Yeah, I mean, it's all speculation, to be fair. I would love for Frank Reich to come to the Cardinals. Please, please, bring me Frank Reich. Oh, man. That's so wild. I mean, the writing was on the wall for this. I mean, I think last week I said he looked like the president who served five terms. He was toasted. He's done. But I'm like this is a. There was contentiousness at the top. This is burn it down. Yeah. I'm sorry, Colts fans. This is burn it down. He's a great coach. I think he's a great coach. I do too. But we don't really, I don't want to like state as fact what we do not know. Of no, not at all. I mean, but we were saying like, okay, he was told to do this. He was told. We don't know who said what about which player. We really don't. We know that there was some pressure at the top was being reported.

But we don't know who made the final calls on those things. We don't know the final decision. Yeah, I mean, we, unless you have a source that I haven't seen. There, there was some articles. I thought there was a lot of chatter. Yeah, there were, there were some articles written by the journalists inside the Colts organization that talked about the long night of conversation between, uh, GM, owner, coach. and that Reich was the last to be willing to come on board. And Erse came out and even admitted that when it comes to the matters, you know, he doesn't want to meddle, but when it comes to the quarterback position, he will intervene. So he, I think that is, we don't know the specifics of exactly what was said, but we do know that it came down from Jim Ersay, or that he was at least very involved in wanting to make that move. Goodness.