Fantasy Football 2017 - Week 4 Studs & Duds, Rising Stars + Biggest Surprises

Comes out. He's getting the first other carries. You had a situation. Jeremy Hill fumbled and got back in the game. And while I commend the Bengals for doing the right thing when you're running back fumbles once, you've got to put him back in. But that's fumbling for Marvin Lewis is usually. Well, they recovered the fumble. They didn't lose it. Right. But even still, when you're running back drops the ball for Marvin Lewis team, you are sent to the bench.

You're not coming back. So 17 to 6 carry count between the two. Yeah, and Joe Mixer still got the work. He was really up against it because they're dominating so much. So it's, they're just trying to run out the clock and the defense knows exactly what, what Cincinnati is going to do. But the offensive line is so bad for the Bengals and Joe Mixon's not getting anything done. Can you really continue to start him?

At this point, we thought we thought that this week was going to be the changing point. I still think he's a flex. He's a flex play. Yeah, he absolutely is. He got 17 carries and four receptions. If you give me anyone in the NFL with 21 touches, I'm going to be starting him. And he's talented. This one didn't work out because like you said, they were up by a bunch. They're running the clock out. He's just running into jammed boxes for a lot of those carries. I was just going to say, you talk about the touches, Jay, 21. McAfrety had 10.

Exactly. Ten touches. Are you concerned about McCaffrey? You know, I'm concerned with McCaffrey no different than I was preseason. Now, I was super disappointed this week. I thought he would be what the outlet that was used against this Patriots defense that's been giving up so many points. Didn't need to. Yeah. You could bomb it out on the Patriots. Exactly. They didn't need to. It's kind of a similar situation with Joe Mixon. It was like.

The team, the matchup, everything that we saw there was correct. It was just the wrong weapon being used. It wasn't McCaffrey. It wasn't mixing. All right. Let's transition to the wide receivers that had disappointing weeks. You had a couple big names, but there's no real fantasy value in talking about Antonio Brown, 4 for 34. That'll get right. It happens. But let's talk about, look, Amari Cooper, 2 for 9, 3 for 38 for Brandon Cooks.

Golden Tate, really disappointing. I loved him this week against that Minnesota secondary that had been struggling, and he just plain laid an egg, three for 29. You have some reasons for the other ones, Julio Jones, the injury. Pierre Garcin had Patrick Peterson. T.Y. Hilton had Jacoby Brissette and the Seattle defense. But what about Sammy Watkins? One catch in this game. They come out, they beat Dallas in Dallas.

And you have one reception, which was at the very end of this game. On two targets. He only had two balls thrown his way. Which has been the, I mean, other than the two touchdown game, which was only seven targets when he was six for seven and the two touchdowns, he's been a real low target guy this far. I was really hoping to see him take off in this game. Yeah, I mean, I feel like he is somewhat similar to a Martavis Bryant. He's going to need that big play.

to be involved, but he's got a higher floor. I do think he'll still be usually more involved than Martavis Bryant. But he's in that category of kind of a boom-bust play where you're just hoping because of his physical talents, he can break one long. His target share does not give me confidence. The Broncos wide receivers are my headline story of this week. At home, taking on the Oakland Raiders secondary who have not shown up hardly at all this year.

I expected big things from both of these wide receivers. So that was, eh, J. Derby took care of that. I'll take your pass. I mean, Simeon felt it. Simeon's fantasy numbers felt the fact that those receivers weren't involved. They won with their defense in that game and the loss of car. We knew Cooper would stink, but now what do you do with him? Like we knew Denver was a tough matchup, but you got Baltimore, L.A. and Kansas City the next three weeks, can you confidently start Amari Cooper?

Confidently, no, certainly Baltimore is not the best matchup. The next two weeks after that, I realize they aren't the best, but they're startable. Mike nailed it in the sense that when you're talking about the Raiders, all the pieces, other than Crabtree. I think when you're talking about Carr, Lynch, and Cooper, you're playing the matchups, and then depending on, you know, how juicy the matchup is versus how difficult you have to...

use those to kind of map your expectations so that you can make the rest of your lineup decisions properly. Do you drop Ted Ginn? I didn't have them already. But yes. Not you, sir. This is more of the hypothetical for our list. I'm saying yes. Do you drop Eric Decker? I finally do. Fourth week, two for 13. This was my last hope, my last chance. J.J. Nelson, do you drop him now that John Brown has been active? Yeah, he probably can drop him. Okay.

Tight-ins. Jason Whitten. Not good again. One for nine. Hopefully you cashed in on those first couple games. Kobe Fleener didn't do anything. Gates. Eric Ebron, two for 27. Do you drop these guys, all four of them? I mean, I guess you stick with Witton. To pick up for who? I don't know. We brought up a few different names. Cameron Brate. Evan Ingram, Jared Cook. Austin Siffarian Jenkins.

Second straightway ASJ has led the team in targets and receptions. Yeah, those names we just mentioned, I would take over anyone else on this list. Kyle Rudolph, two for 34. When are you guys going to give me the, when do I earn Kyle Rudolph respect for my offseason takes on Rudolph? When Sam Bradford comes back and he's not using Kyle Rudolph? Yeah, it's great. This other six years, five years of his career and.

But check out these tight ends. I'm just seeing you're very loyal to Calrude. We haven't had Monday, but Tyler Croft, Camer Brate, A.J. Derby, O.J. Howard, Clay. Clay's it every week. But James Hannah, Rhett, Rett Ellison, Luke Wilson, Ed Dixon. Are these the leaders? Those are your Gronkin Hunter Henry are in there. But that's the top 12 at the tight end. Let's talk on the season. Which means.

Austin Hooper is still the 10th. Who knows? Austin Hooper is still the 10th best wide receiver or tight-in on the season because he had a decent game this past. So you got, I mean, you've got Jason Whitten, Evan Ingram, Jesse James, Cameron Brate, Kobe Fleener, Austin Hooper. All those guys are still in the top 12 for tight-ins on the season. That's why I like Evan Ingram for the target carry. That's why even if you guys don't love Martell's Bennett, the targets are there for Martell's Bennett every single week. He's still been.

a top target in that offense. So if you're going to be randomly selecting tight ends, at least go with the target number. That's why I like ASJ moving forward as well. Okay, let's, that's it. We're done. We did it. We made it through. Thanks again for listening to the podcast. If you are a new listener to the show, click that little subscribe button. That helps the show out a lot. It'll put a new episode in your pocket. Boop. Poop.

It doesn't make a sound, actually. It's a silent. It's like it. Yeah. They can't hear that. It's coming through. I trust me. Pop quiz. Who has more targets so far on the season? Rob Grancowski or Evan Ingram. Oh, Evan Ingram. Is that just a trick question? It's a trick question. They're tied. Oh, wow. They both have 30. They're second in the league behind my guy. Zachert. Yeah. If you don't have Zacherts or Gronk, just. Just.

Don't even play it. Every time you say my guy, Zachert, I feel like you have stolen my girlfriend. It's just like 10 years of loving this, man. Draft.com slash ballers to play with us. Take care. Goodbye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on join the foot.com. And follow us on Twitter at the FFBallers. The perpetual pen tapper, the arbitrary fridge reorganizer.

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