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Week 10 Studs & Duds + Monday Punday, Weekend Reactions - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/15

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Week 10 Studs & Duds + Monday Punday, Weekend Reactions - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/15

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But it ends up not a target but a catch to the other person? Has that happened? Has someone been zero targets, one reception? I guess so. Neither here, they're there. Just word vomiting over here. Yeah, okay. Well, nothing new. Poopped in his big boy pants. So, Matt Ryan looked real bad. Woof. What happened, Matt? He was the NFC offensive player of the week and week nine. Is that true?

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And he was the most offensive to my eyeballs in week 10. He was playing very good football. And I think the problem is we finally were like, okay, Matt Ryan, maybe you're, maybe you're okay. We'll admit it that you still have something left in the tank. And then all over. A combination of a couple things. One, Dallas's defense is pretty good. Two, when you lose Cordero Patterson, who has been really important to this.

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passing game. He's the engine. And you don't have Calvin Ridley. So you can focus on shutting down Kyle Pitts, the last man standing. It's a pretty putrid core of receivers here. 117 passing yards and 60 of them were to Kyle Pitts. So count your blessings on a game where 117 total yards for Matt Ryan and you still were okay for Kyle Pitts. Carson wins. He was not needed.

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They got up to such a huge lead, and they shut it down. What's funny is because you and I both had Carson Wentz in a couple places where we were relying on him, and we watched Jonathan Taylor just destroy the Jags in the beginning of the game. We're like, this is bad for Carson Wentz. He's going to have a bad game. It's not his fault. However, I do want to heap blame upon him because in the second half, it started to get close. And there were times when he was needed, and he could not come through. He looked.

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Poor and or, depending on your perspective or what you believe the truth is, the Jacksonville Jaguar's defense looked good. After that first quarter, they kind of locked it down. Obviously, they, you know, two straight games. I was going to say, they just had a good game previously where they beat the bills. So maybe the Jacksonville Jaguars defense is not putrid. Are you freaked out about Russell Wilson, the Rusty Wilson? His 161, no touchdowns, two picks.

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He came back too soon. I don't know if he'll ever admit that or whatever, but watching him play and many, many errant balls from Russ where you're just like, what happened? That looked like a player who couldn't properly grip a football and you were up in the snow. It's cold. So I think he came back too soon. He tried to, you know, be a superhero.

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And it was the wrong choice. I'm not starting Russell Wilson until after I see a good game. And so I will miss one good game. But after what we saw last night, I just can't, he didn't look the same. I don't think I could trust putting that guy in my lineup. On the other side of the ball, though, Aaron Rogers, not a good game. No. Well, not a good, yeah, not a good fantasy game. Not a good fantasy game. 292 yards passing, but no intercept or no touchdowns, one interception. Disappointing.

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That game was like 3-0 late into the game. I think in the fourth quarter. Tom Brady. Oh, how does it feel, Tom? What does it feel? What was it? I mean, he was over 20 points in fantasy in the end, but two picks. Game got off to a rough start. Godwin was kind of irrelevant, but then he was relevant. I mean, what was your takeaway from this game? Just they fall flat?

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Yeah, I mean, it was, maybe it was overlooking an opponent, you know, coming out, feeling like the Washington football team was an easy matchup. There were obviously, so a couple of his interceptions. He shows two. Maybe one got turned into a Jalen Darden fumble because I think he had three interceptions in the game when we were watching. One was a crazy, bounced off Chris Godwin's shoe.

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One was Jalen Darden. The shoe one didn't. Oh, that's right. That got overturned. Jalen Darden caught it, turned, moved, had the ball punched out. So I don't think Brady played as bad as the finish. And also, if you weren't watching this game, it was unbelievable what Washington was able to do on offense. Their drive took the, there was the longest drive I've ever seen in the history of football. The fourth quarter.

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was like I just kept waiting. I was like, okay, well, Brady's going to get the ball back with about six minutes. Okay, maybe he'll have four minutes to work. Well, he's going to have two minutes. He's going to be in the two minute drill. He never, by the time he got the ball, the game was over and he ran a hand off to the whole quarter. It was unbelievable. Well, you got news right before the game as well that Richard Sherman was going to, he had retweaked his calf. He's going to miss some time. Their defenses has struggled at times.

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Justin Herbert, 24, 195, and 1. Had a drop touchdown from Mike Williams. You know, Minnesota controlled the clock. And Herbert had a down week. And now he gets Pittsburgh, then Denver and Sensi. You just don't know. He's hard to project sometimes. Like he has these huge weeks, number one. And, you know, do you just lock them into your lineup? No, I don't think you do. He has, he's been inconsistent enough.

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where I think you need to look at a bad matchup as a bad matchup. Specifically these next two weeks, Pittsburgh and Denver, I would be reluctant to say he is a must start. Really? Certainly, he's a player where if you don't have a great pivot option, he can go out there like he did against the Ravens and be an awesome quarterback, but he doesn't add much on the ground. And if he doesn't get the touchdowns, he's not good enough for fantasy in a bad matchup.

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To add to this, and I know we'll talk about him in a little bit, Mike Williams just does not look the same. I don't know what's up with Mike Williams, but he's just... You can make an argument he looks the same as his career. As his career, but not those first few games. You're right. I mean, it's, he needs an explosive player outside of Keenan Allen for those big games, but it's hard because Herbert, you know, he's been a top two guy three different weeks. Yeah, but three of his last four games, he hasn't even been a quarterback one. I know.

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I know. Baltimore, New England. This game was unexpected. It's hard. I looked at pivots, right, for this upcoming week. I'm like, ah, maybe I don't play him against Pittsburgh. I just couldn't find players I like more for upside. Like, it's not that maybe somebody like Mack Jones will get you 20 on the dot. But it's hard when you play fantasy. You won a chance. It's four touchdowns, and only a few guys can do that. I'm going to guess you do not start Justin Herbert this week. I think I will.

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Oh, in your face. I mean, well, we'll see. Well, I look, you want to trade Jalen Hertz in our League of Record. I look at it. You play New Orleans next week. I'm going to play, I'm going to play Herbert against Pittsburgh over Jalen Hurts against New Orleans. Okay. You can make mistakes. That's fine. What's my record? What's my record, Jason? Your record is. Is it a mistake-filled record? I mean, if you held it up against your record, who made more mistakes? Mistakes or injuries.

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wasn't my fault. Christian McCabe. You should have thought about not getting hurt. All these guys got injured. Yeah. All right. Running back, Duds. Cordero's on here. I mean, if he was hurt, I'm not really going to hold this against him. I'm not going to make it prescriptive. If he misses a game, you're not playing him. If he's back on the field, healthy, you play Cordero right now. If anything, this game proved to you that every single play given to Mike Davis is a wasted play. I was going to say, like, on an early peak of.

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Tomorrow's waivers. Wayne Galman. Wayne Galman, not that you want to play your running back against the Patriots. I mean, I guess Deerunis had a lot of success in the last couple weeks. Players have been fine. You don't want to play a third string running back against the Patriots, but he's going to see a lot of work. Josh Jacobs, Kenyon Drake, were both combined. They combined to be awful together. The Josh Jacobs game was very surprising to me. Seven for 16.

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Woof. Not good. No. I mean, we bring this up. Can you, Drake got that on four carries. We bring it up all the time. And I know that it's not, I mean, I think it is prescriptive to a degree, which is just his splits in games they win and games they lose are astronomical. He is bad.

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When they don't win the game. It's so weird, though, because it's chicken or egg. Oh, absolutely. Why don't you win the game? Oh, he's bad. Absolutely. I mean, that's also why. No, for sure. But I guess my point is if you can kind of see that the expectation is a loss. Sure. Then maybe you, maybe you careful. Exactly. You preemptively guess that he's going to have a bad game. Giovante Williams, just eight carries, 48 yards. Give him the ball, please. 48. 48.

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48 on the dot, 48 yards. And it's not just 48. You had multiple gigantic runs by Javante called back on penalty. Did you now? Maybe the penalty sprung the run. You can make that argument, but he, Melvin Gordon is not bad. No. He's not a bad running back at this, even as an elder statement. But Javante could be great if you just give him the ball.

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Which they aren't going to do. They're going into their buy week now. I still would absolutely target Javante. He is a special talent. And I don't think he needs. Like what happened yesterday, you're not going to ever get a good game or a good enough game with eight carries. And that can happen in the future. But he has been fantasy relevant already many, many times this year. He's been at top, you know, an RB3 or better, really the majority of his games.

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you know, half of his last four games were good, half were bad. And so he is a flex worthy player. But when you're talking about a guy who's just kind of a flex option, it's very rare for a flex option to have an outcome where he's unbelievable. And I, that's what I still think of Giovante. I think he's going to be phenomenal going forward. And I would target him because I don't think he's going to cost that much, especially off of a bad game going into a biweek.

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If the team is going to make a change where their hand isn't forced by an injury, this could be the time that they go in, they really take a look at what the offense needs to do. And for those final remaining games, the switch could happen. I'm not fully projecting and saying 100% locking in, Javante is going to be the guy. But when teams make big changes, it's usually over the by week.

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Melvin Gordon was 9 for 45, had another touchdown, is scored in three straight weeks. They're splitting all the work, and Melvin Gordon has had three weeks inside the top 12. Giovante's yet to break into that category. But the buys coming up, we'll see what happens. Adrian Peterson stinks, so does McNichols. Foreman is their best running back. Who also is probably not playable. He's currently the RB25.

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On the week. Well, I mean, we'll be waiver talk tomorrow. He just, yeah. Didn't Mick Nichols get banged up again? I don't know, maybe. It's just so funny of the, is it Peterson? Is it McNichols? No. It's Deontay Form. It's not really Deontay Foreman either. It's just, I mean, they all split snaps evenly. It's a three. And he doesn't get the goal line. It's a three-way time share, which is unfortunate. Obviously, he did have the most carries.

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So he, you know, but then if he's not getting the goal line. Can I, can I give us some credit right here in the DUD section? Oh, I'd love to take you. Yes. For the incredible event. Yes, please. Never before in the history of fantasy football. Have we had a more complex mix of Deontah, Deontae, Devante, Devante. I mean, we are navigating some names that are very similar. We're doing it. And I'm just really proud. With excellence. Just really proud of us.

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They've all come into focus right now. We do have trouble with other words. A lot of other words, including those. But we're still trying. Words are tough. J.D. McKissick was a disaster. Yeah. The game script was the inverse of what we expect. Yep. This is something that has proven itself out time and time again. When they have a lead, Antonio Gibson gets the ball. When they don't have a lead, he doesn't touch it. Yep. So.

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Take that for what you will. Carolina next week in Carolina. It's going to be tough. Oh, Cam Newton against Ron Rivera. Yes. Oh, yeah. Yes. It will be fun. A.J. Brown, four targets, one for 16. Boo. His teammate Marcus Johnson went five for 100. Yeah. This is why I wanted Julio Jones as my start of the week before he got injured because. Yeah, process.

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Well, it's Latimore. Yeah, exactly. Latimore on your number one, and then they've got nobody in their secondary elsewhere. It's why chasing Devante Smith might be a problem. He's going to have Latimore next week, and that is, he may get slowed. DK met calf eight targets, three for 26. Tyler Lockett, eight targets, two for 23. Just flushed the game. Flushed the game. Tyler Lockett, he needed a.

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