Week 12 Studs & Stinkers + White Knuckle Starts, GibSZN - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/30

while other Jacksonville running backs have combined for seven rushing attempts. Like that is, that, that's, that's beyond, like, that's Christian McCaffrey levels. And it's, and he's great. Like James Robinson just gets it done. He has that balance and power where he, he very rarely goes down on first contact. Yeah, I mean, when you think about the rookie running back expectations, Clyde Edwards-Alair, Jonathan Taylor, and here's James Robinson, who is,

definitively, I mean, Antonio Gibson's making a run at it for sure, but those two guys are the rookie stars at the position. Yeah, it's crazy because they are so clearly a cut above. And he's built for it, too. He's 220 pounds at only 5'9. I think he's going to be their running back of the future, too. Kenyon Drake, 22 for 78 and 2, should have had 3. He's coming on of late as well. Should have had 3.

Drake. Yeah. Jump. Learn to jump. You don't need to burrow through the hole. Jump over the top. Come on. We know you listen to Chris Cross when you were growing up. We all did. Don't you want to? That'll make you jump. Yeah. Opportunity. 11 for 103. Six targets, five catches and a touchdown. Best game of the year for David Montgomery.

Yeah, because Green Bay sucks with rusty face. So he took advantage of a matchup. He hadn't done that all season, but he did take advantage of a matchup here. And going forward, Detroit, Houston, Minnesota, Jacksonville doesn't get much better as far as matchups. I know the matchup was good, but I will mention because we do this. They did mix up their offensive line. This is something that the Montgomery truthers out there have been saying forever that,

He is a product of a just atrocious offensive line situation. And they did mix it up last night. And I know he had a 57-yard run, but he was moving the pile. And the disparity between the rushing production when he was out for a week and last week shows that he, too, he's got the stranglehold on that position, which is helpful. And he's got Houston, Minnesota, Jacksonville in the playoffs. So this could be, he could be very useful. Let's put it that way. He might not win your game, but he could be very useful.

And then Austin Echler, 16 targets. 11 catches. 16 targets? What is this? I didn't even realize that number was that high. That is shocking. Goodness, great. You know that was his career high in touches? Yeah, because Herbert knows what he's doing. Yeah. Herbert says, I will feed Keenan Allen and I will dump the ball off to Austin Echler. This is the recipe. Do you worry at all about Keenan Allen's targets? He only had 10 in this game.

I mean, that's pretty... Honestly, they probably will dip a bit, but Keenan Allen is still locked in. Yeah. Yeah. Impressive. Echler is back. Atlanta, Las Vegas, Denver, and the playoffs. Nice to see him back out there. Wide receiver studs. I don't know. Tyree Kil did some stuff. Oh, I don't remember the last time I was so excited to watch one player.

Like, I just wanted every ball to keep going to him. I wanted a 500-yard game, and I love the Twitter timeline after the first quarter. Every single person out there being like, he's on pace for an 800-yard game. Yeah, his season pace, 448 receptions, 12,992 yards, 128 touchdowns. If you could have done that quarter, every quarter all year long. Ended with a mere 13 for 269 and 3. Unbelievable.

I mean, he started the day with 752 rushing yards. He is now the first wide receiver to break 1,000 on this season. So it also leads the NFL in touchdowns. And it's like a cheat code. Yep. Will Fuller was the headliner at the wide receiver position before Tyree Kiel came and stole his award. But he only had 171 yards. Yeah, pathetic. It's embarrassing. But he is, he's the wide receiver four on the season right now heading into Monday night football. Six for 171 and two. This is what.

It's one of the reasons why before the year I went out and I actively got him in dynasty leagues because the chance at it. It wasn't a guarantee. We didn't know if Will Fuller can stay healthy. But injuries are hard to predict. And it was always if he stayed healthy, he would be blank. And he is now the wide receiver four. So they really can't afford to lose him. Like if I'm Deshaun Watson, I've thought Fuller is leaving for sure. I'm not sure anymore. Yeah. I think there's a chance they have to pay him.

At least with the removal of Bill O'Brien, I would think that the new regime realizes in today's NFL, you have your quarterback locked up. You better lock up a number one guy. And I get that he's an injury risk, but you take Will Fuller off of this team and you're in trouble. Yeah. Jarvis Landry had a game, finally. What? What? Jarvis. I mean, look, Jarvis is a good wide receiver.

and Baker has been playing in horrific weather every single week. It was the first chance, you know, post-Odell Beckham. It was. That's crazy. They have an opportunity to actually throw the ball in not crazy weather. So, yeah, maybe Jarvis is someone that you might look to as more reliable than what you've seen over the last month or two. Started in just 33% of Yahoo leaks. Makes sense.

Alan Robinson had a game. 13 targets, 8 for 74 and 2. Nothing, you know, was no deep plays really, but they were just kind of keeping him in front with the big lead, kept catching the ball, got into the end zone twice. He's been great in spite of poo-poo quarterbacks for his entire career. And I would personally rather have Trubisky out there. Because I feel like drives are going to be more sustained with...

the occasional scramble for a first down, and a more sustained drive is just more opportunities for touchdowns. Yeah, I actually agreed. As I was watching the game, because we had that conversation last week, would you rather have faults, we'd rather have Trubisky? And even with how bad Trubisky looked, so many of those open passes where he's dumping it into the ground, not even making it to the receiver, giving them a chance to catch it. He's not a,

franchise NFL quarterback, but for fantasy, I think I would rather have him out there for, for Robinson for the rest of the year. All right, I'm doing the gritty today. Justin Jefferson, 13 targets, seven for 70 and two more touchdowns. I love this guy. I'm such a big fan. And he proved that he could be, you know, out there as the number one in this game.

You know, Thielen's going to come back, but Jefferson is just too much big playability to put on your bench at any point. You have to play him no matter what. Amari Cooper, 6 for 112 and 1. Andy Dalton plus Amari Cooper is working out. Yep. You can play Cooper when Dalton's there. Debo? 11 for 133. The man. Debo. I love the 13 targets there. I feel like half of those are the handoff taps. Oh, they are.

But it's weird because he can take the tap past 20 yards like every time. Debo Samuel is a perfect fit for this offense. Yeah, and there's trust. I mean, if there's one thing that this wide receiver core hasn't had, it's depth or trust. You don't know who's going to get it. It's not going to be born or Richie James. If Debo's out there, they're going to build the offense around him. And you want to know what else they haven't had is Ayyuk and Debo together. Like, that's my curiosity because Ayuk was good.

when he was the only show in town, and Debo's been good while he's the only show in town. What is going to happen when both of these guys are out? Is the offense going to be that much better, or is it just going to be, you're taking this great stat line and you're splitting it in two? You could be, but this is what, when I was talking about Debo last week, what I liked about him, you knew the matchup sucked. The Los Angeles Rams, I don't want my wide receivers playing against the Rams because it's hard to get open.

Debo Samuel doesn't have to get open because he starts to play open and that's where they give him the ball. Yeah, he's not a traditional wide receiver. They facilitate touches to him. And, you know, I don't think I'd be willing to play Iyuk with Debo there, but I'm willing to play Debo with Iyke there as of right now. Mike Evans, three for 50 and two touchdowns. Took him nine targets. Yeah, nine targets, man. That's rough. It's really hard to kind of.

decide on those three guys, but Evan seems like he is secured as the number one. And you kind of have to decide between Brown and Godwin. And yesterday was Godwin for sure. Tight ends. Robert Tunyon, five targets, five for 67 and a touchdown. Evan Ingram 100-yard game. Rob Grankowski, a hundred-yard game. And, oh, Travis Kelsey, just another eight for 82. Yeah. Tunion's pretty two solid games in a row.

Tunyon is, I mean, of that tier of quarterback at that point, it's, what do you want? Well, I would like a pass-friendly offense and a Hall of Fame quarterback. So, yeah, I mean, it's the same thing for Grunk, where Robert Tunyon is in play. Evan Engram, it's, man, again, it's so disappointed to see Daniel Jones have to miss time. Now, the latest report is that they're hoping it's only a week, but the Giants still won't know that.

Until they know. But against Seattle, Evan Engram, upsetting. And Jason, do you have confidence in Grankowski moving forward after seeing him do this week after week after week? Oh, yeah. I think you have to. I mean, if you're talking about tight ends that you can have confidence and he has to be near the top, he's had two bad games since week six. That's phenomenal.

for a tight end. Every other week, he's basically been a tight end one. All right. Let's talk stinkers. Stinkers of the week. Presented by odor eaters. It doesn't get stinkier than what we experience with Derek Carr. I just, I mean, Gruden apologized to the entire fan base for what took place on the field. As you should have. This was three fumbles from Derek Carr against Atlanta.

215, no touchdowns, through a pick, don't send in the car, pull the car over, throw up, sell the car, set the car on fire. I don't care what you want to do. Just don't ever send the car in again. It's so disheartening because this team was sitting at 6 and 4, could have gone to 7 and 4 with any type of performance against Atlanta who's been so vulnerable in the passing game. Sometimes it just doesn't go the way you think it's going to go.

Derek Carr played three quarters, and then that's when he got pulled right around the fourth, right? Nathan Peterman had more fantasy points. The backup quarterback in one quarter of play, more points than Derek Carr. The Raiders have played to their competition on a weekly basis. They get up for the big games. Kansas City's coming in, divisional opponents, Super Bowl champs, and they get up for that game, and he throws 275 and three touchdowns looks like a...

you know, should be on an MVP candidate list. They go and they think it's an easy matchup against Atlanta. They get boat race 6 to 43 and just don't show up. And they've done this a lot this season where whatever you think you're going to get out of the Raiders, you end up getting the opposite. Yeah, Denver. He had a single-digit fantasy game against Denver in a matchup. People were expecting him to do well. And what happens next week when fantasy players are trying to find

quarterback options and they see the Jets on the schedule who are 29th against opposing fantasy quarterbacks. You're going to be tempted to look his way. I'm not because I never want to experience that feeling again. The pain that Andy must be experiencing right now as like the one of the five Derek Carr supporters in the fantasy community and this was the time, this was the stage where all of us were bought in. Well, I look, I brought up. I'm sorry.

Oh, gosh. Yes. Yes. Oh, that was spectacular. Well done, Al. And somehow still doesn't illustrate how much pain that this brought me. I mean, I chased your stream, Mike. I made him to start. I was in, man. It wasn't just you. Look, I take, I wasn't the only one either. This was a player that was consensus top 10 this week. And it's one thing to have, sometimes.

You know, it doesn't go right. And you're like, well, he didn't sink my team. He sunk your team. Yes. You probably, you needed Antonio Gibson or Tyree Kill or Derek Henry to survive what Derek Carr did. And it sucks. Kyla Murray, first dud of the year. This is the first time he's been not very good. And no touchdown passes, didn't run the football. You don't know if the shoulder caused him to change the game script a little bit where they didn't want to expose him. But super disappointing.

And this coming week, you've got the Los Angeles Rams. Really, really tough matchup. I wouldn't expect great things from Kyler this week. Jared Goff. Oof. Yeah, this is a bad performance and makes two bad fantasy days with a great one mixed in. Cam Newton was... Oh, man, I'm sorry. So bad. I thought Cam Newton would have a good game. And what's crazy about the Newton's stat line, I mean,