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Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - Week 11 Matchups, The Daily Dose, & TNF Review

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Yep. But I don't think you're as good as you think you are. Okay, I really don't. Now, that being said, the Packers don't seem to be as good as we thought they were either. So this game should be very interesting from both a real NFL standpoint and a fantasy standpoint. Who are you very confident in starting in this game? Adrian Peterson. Adrian Peterson. Adrian Peterson. Now, is he?

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Wide receiver running back? What is he? He is a Hall of Fame running back going against a defense that has really been struggling on the ground the last few weeks. Yeah, they have fallen off a map because they off the map. They have started the year. They started the year great. Yeah, their defense looked great to start the year. They had a couple injuries to their secondary, which kicked off kind of a domino effect of shifting around pieces and just falling apart, a complete collapse.

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So now this game is in Minnesota. The Packers are struggling and reeling. Now, they're a team that normally bounces back, though, right? I mean, remember the famous R-E-L-A-X? Yes. Which we almost got another version of this week from McCarthy. Yeah. So, you know, they bounce back. And here, if you were to pick the winner of this game, are you saying it's going to be the Packers? I think so.

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Yeah, I think the Packers win this game. I think it'll be close because the defense for the Vikings has been pretty good, and you have to temper that bounce-back expectation for Rogers. We expected it last week at home against the Lions. It didn't happen. I don't think you're going to go on the road to Minnesota in that environment in the division game and put up 35 points. And Vegas agrees. It's 44 point over under. I think this game is probably a two touchdown game for Rogers. I agree. So where do they go? Where do the touchdowns go? Well, I don't think.

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that they go on the ground. I don't think you're going to have Starks and Lacey having a very good game. If you've got to start one, I would start Starks. He is the starter. Yep. And I would flex Stark just for the record, just for where I haven't ranked. Exactly. He's not an RB1 or probably even an RB2 this week. You know, Devante Adams gets so many targets. I believe he's the safest play of their wide receivers right now. But his upside is limited by his talent. Devante, get it together. You stink.

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Wow. Sorry. That was painful. That was a little rude of me. Remember what happened the last time someone said somebody stunk on the show? That's why I said it. Okay, so go ahead and say it so I can cut the sound bite out. Devante Adams, you stink. All right, thank you. Because the last time we made that, Mike famously now, made that off-season prediction about a, it was another Devante. Yeah, Devante Freeman. Yeah. Oh, I remember. That was great. I remember. So you would play Adams over cop.

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You said that statement, and now you have Cobb on your own roster, and you're going to play Devante Adams over Cobb. So what's wrong with Cobb? What is wrong with him? Well, what I said was Adams, I think, is the safer play. I think his floor is higher than Cobb. I would play Cobb. If I only had both, if I had Cobb and Adams on my roster, I could only start one. I would start Cobb because his ceiling is higher because he doesn't stink. He is very good. But he's not been getting the targets that Adams has. James Jones, forget about him right now.

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I think he's, his age is cut up to him. They have. They have. Stefan Diggs. Do you start him? Yes or no? Yes. You do start Stefan Diggs. And a lot of the questions that I've been getting on Jointhefoot.com and on the website, Diggs seems to be the guy I'm sitting in a lot of the comparative situations. We actually have him, you have him very low this week.

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You have them outside the wide receiver three range. I have him at the back end of the two range. So flex, wide receiver two, somewhere in that category if you don't have a better option. Yeah, I think I need to move him up a little bit in my rankings. I see where he is and he's too low for where I actually think this game flow works. But I would agree he's definitely, I say start him, but obviously that depends on who you have as other options. All right, the 49ers go up to Seattle and have to endure.

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what the Seattle Seahawks are going to do to them. They're going to punch them in the helmet. A 12.5 point favorite at home. And Russell Wilson is your start of the week because it just seems like his floor is so high. It's basically the equation there. You're not starting Gabbard. You're not starting Hyde who will probably be out. You're not starting Sean Drone. You're not starting a wide receiver. And if you had to start anybody on this entire San Francisco roster, I guess it's Garrick Seleck. And that means...

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Stay away. Wow. I don't remember the last time I've looked at a roster and literally thought there isn't one single player or position. I wouldn't play a kicker, a wide receiver, a defense. I would not play one. I wouldn't play Seleck. I wouldn't play a single 49er. Not one. So we do start Wilson in the Lynch-Rolls situation. If Lynch sits, Rawls is a great start. You start either one of these guys.

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I love the matchup here. The 49ers, I believe, are going to, you know, get treated poorly by San Francisco this week. Remember, the 49ers played the Seahawks very well a couple weeks ago. In San Francisco. In San Francisco. And then Seattle lost this last week. So you've got one of two things, right? Either Seattle's not as good.

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as, you know, they think they are. They're not. They're not as good. And the 49ers are better than they're getting credit for. So maybe you have this be close, or the other option, which I'm going to lean more towards, is that Seattle really needs to send a message here after losing it home against the Cardinals and that they're going to kind of try to boat race a little bit harder. I've got a score prediction for you. I think it'll be 24 to 6. I think that's going to be the score of the game. I like it. Okay. I like that. I would think that Seattle will actually put up more than 24,

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But if the 49ers only get six, which I don't see how they get more. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see. So Bengals at Cardinals Sunday night football game, big game. We thought maybe the Bengals would come in undefeated, but they lost to Houston on Monday night. Now they have to go on the road and take on a Cardinals team that just had a big win over Seattle last week. Carson Palmer, I'm completely confident. He's my number three quarterback this week. That's not Homerism. That is Carson performing against good teams because they throw the ball.

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They're the second highest scoring offense in football. And so I'm not going to doubt Palmer in this matchup after he did what he did to Sherman and the Seahawks last week. Yeah, Palmer has shown that he can play against the best. I do not doubt Palmer. I do doubt his fantasy production without Michael Floyd and John Brown. Last week you saw Michael Floyd was used like.

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the man that he is. And he was great. And he was great for Carson Palmer. Two of the touchdowns went to Michael Floyd. If Michael Floyd is out and John Brown is limited, I just can't get behind. I mean, I've got Carson as my number eight quarterback this week, so I'm not completely off of him. Did you move him up? No. I thought he was 12. Okay, so he's eight now? Yeah. Okay. So I think if, for some reason, both Brown and Floyd sit, Ellington will be more involved in the passing game.

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Makes sense. But I don't know if that's a fantasy relevant statement, to be honest with you. For some people that need, you know, their, Ellington is on waivers. Deeper league. And, you know, if Ellington is on waivers, I see people playing guys that, you know, you, I would rather play Ellington over a lot of the other waiver fodder. So let me ask you this, though, staying at the running back position, people need to know this with CJ2K, with Chris Johnson. Tougher matchup, right? The, uh, the Bengals.

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Run defense is 13th in the league. They're past defense 13th. They're a very well-balanced defense. They're not elite, but they're not, you know, they're above average. So Chris Johnson this week, we both have pretty low. I have them at 18, so that's RB2. So I'm starting them over guys like Hillman. I'm starting them over Gordon. I'm starting them over Matt Jones and Eddie Lacey and all those guys. I have to believe I have them lower than you do. You do. You do. You have them.

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at 27, so outside of the RB2 range. And I think that that's fair. Chris Johnson, he slowed down a little bit. Yep, he is slowing down against decent defenses and bad defenses.

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And now the Bengals come in, and the Bengals, they fell apart last week, but their defense looked great. I just don't see it. And I think that as he slows down, you just get one or two more carries. You're not giving the roll over, but a few more carries might go to Andre Ellington, which will hurt his value. I don't like Chris Johnson. I like John Stewart more than Chris Johnson. I like Langford more, Blunt more, Goremore, McCoy more. So he's still startable.

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But we're just saying temporary expectations in this game. Yeah. Speaking of tempered expectations, if you're a Jeremy Hill owner, you don't have any anymore. Yeah. You don't have any expectations. No. And you're not going to see that improve on the road against Arizona's fourth ranked run defense, seventh ranked past defense. Who do you have confidence in on the offensive side of the ball? We had our sits of the week segment on Wednesday, by the way. People really enjoyed the quizzing that we did on that.

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The questions and the sits of the week on Wednesday, so we're going to keep those going. Dalton was my sit of the week, Green, AJ Green was my sit of the week at the wide receiver position. So is it Gio?

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Geo is okay. I mean, Mike, I believe, has him as a start of the week. We've seen running backs beat Arizona through the air. The guy that I have the most confidence in, and don't mistake this. If I had A.J. Green and Marvin Jones, I would absolutely play A.J. Green. But for where people have these guys on their roster and the roles that they have, Marvin Jones, I think, has a good game for Marvin Jones this week.

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because Patrick Peterson is across the field on A.J. Green, and so targets are going to go elsewhere. Our defense has been very good against the tight end. I did. You said our defense. Well, we are in Arizona. I know. They've been very good against the tight end. So I think Marvin Jones is going to be a more targeted, more utilized role. We saw Doug Baldwin tear apart the Cardinals, you know, not.

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Patrick Peterson. And I'm still okay starting Eifford in this game, by the way. Interesting stat nugget for the Bengals. 50% of their passing touchdowns are to the tight-in position this season. Okay? So Ifer's just been absorbing them like a magnet. He had a bad game last week, but he'll be targeted. And if he had caught the ball last week, he would have had an okay game. I do not hesitate at all about starting Eifert.

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All right, last game to cover here. Monday night football, bills go to New England. They take on the Patriots. This is a weather in this game is going to be cold, not too cold. Should be all right. Patriots just lost Edelman after a week after losing Lewis. We've talked about Amandola a lot this week, I think pretty exhaustively. One question I had to you was, how does it impact Grankowski?

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for the owner of, you know, of Gronkowski and the owner of Brady. What are the implications here for how you see the offense playing out in fantasy and in regular? So for other guys, here's what I would expect you see. You see a slight bump up in the guys that get targets. So in Lafell, in Gronk, in those type of guys, I think you get a bump up in targets. They get one or two more targets a game.

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But you get a slight bump down for the overall offense staying on the field and moving because they've lost two important pieces that help pick up those third downs in critical situations. The one guy that I do think it benefits. So I would say it's pretty much a neutral wash for everybody. But Gronk.

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becomes a little bit more important on third down and in the red zone. So while the offense takes a hit, I think Gronk is at worst neutral and could take a bump up here fantasy-wise because while he might lose some yards, I wouldn't doubt if his total yards per game go down, I think his touchdowns are going to, if it's even possible to go up, it's going to be used more. I think I disagree. I don't think his yards are going down. I don't think anything's going down about Gronkowski.

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even with the offensive efficiency. I just think the target numbers are going to be so high for him. But yeah, that's a pretty good take. I agree with a lot of that. I think their offense as a whole probably struggles a little bit, but it's the Patriots. Right. You know, it's the Patriots. They figure it out. And other side of the ball, I think the biggest question fantasy owners have this week is how confident can I really be in starting LaShawn McCoy against the second best run defense in New England? McCoy's been on a role. He has 100, I think 120-something yards in two consecutive games. He's been playing great.

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