Starts of the Week + Week 11 Breakdown, Thundersnow! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/17

the top of the list of a potential cut candidates over the offseason. Dary Slayton was there, and yet he's necessary to this team, and he is producing. So if you're taking the shot, that's where I would go. Yeah, Wondale's skill set is not Dary's Slayton's skill set. They are very different players. So Slayton has a way of just having a big yardage game on a couple of plays that seems to help stabilize that start fantasy-wise. Are there big questions anywhere else on this office? I thought there'd be more. Not really. No, I think... In your explanation of Jamal Williams, are you going to say what to do with DeAndre Swift? I can tell you right now that I would prefer to look elsewhere over DeAndre Swift just because of utilization. I'm still terrified that he's... DeAndre or Antonio Gibson.

Yeah, I know. We're playing each other. Mike, this is a personal question. Oh, like you took half the show on personal questions. I would, well, right, because I'm personal. Oh, it's him. He's more personal to himself than you are. I would play Gibson over DeAndre Swift. DeAndre Swift or Zeke, if he's back. I would play, phew, that's tough. Probably Zeke. Okay. Let's go through this one real quick, too. The Panthers at 3 and 7 taking on the Baltimore Ravens at 6 and 3. The Draft King Sportsbook line here. Baltimore minus 13 points. The overrunners 41. I don't know if I've seen an implied point total as low as 14 this year, but Carolina, congrats. That's you. And that might be too much. It really might be too much. I don't want to play a Panther. Not one. Are you willing to play Deont of Foreman or DJ Moore?

I mean, they're going to turn back to Baker. Desperate times call for desperate measures and Deont de Forman at least will have volume. Yeah. And you hope something fluky happens in the game. Can't wait for Baker Mayfield's endless pump fakes. He does, he does pump fake. Into a sack. Yeah. Too much and a lot. DJ Moore is what he, we know what DJ Moore is at this point. He's a player who's going to get. six or more targets, a talented athlete that will probably have a bad game, has the chance and the talent to have a monster game. So you can plug him in your lineup if you're looking for a boom play. If you're, you know, a real underdog and you're needing someone that can get a big play, then you can throw DJ more in there because you've obviously seen it a couple times this year, regardless of who the quarterback was. And to be fair, to Deonta Foreman, the, me,

He did what he's supposed to do in those Atlanta Falcons games. It's not his fault that the matchup is so juicy. Pretty good against Tampa. He was good against Tampa Bay. I mean, a lot of it was patted from a broken 60-yard run, but that's what I'm talking about. For Deont de Foreman, you're hoping if you put him in against Baltimore, he breaks through the line and he gets you a 40-plus yard run. Yeah, and this one is on the road. It's going to be an uphill battle for them. Lamar, Gus, and who's the wide receiver? I mean, right now you don't know if Mark Andrews is going to be back. You know, you like to see the limited practice, but we've seen this before and he didn't play. If he doesn't play Isaiah likely is in your lineup. Simple flowchart. Yeah. Isaiah likely is a phenomenal start whenever Mark Andrews is gone. If Gus Edwards plays, do you play him or Pacheco against the charger? Pacheco. Is Kenyon Drake off your list if Gus plays? No. He's no. Ooh, yes and no. Fight.

Well, I mean, it's a matter of options, right? Like, I say, yes, he's off my list. In a dynasty league, I am forced to start him. So he's not off your list then. That's what I'm saying. It's a lie your face. Yeah, that is a bold face lie. I want him to be off my list. I hope that you have better. A hundred percent. I think Brian Robinson is a very good play this week. Would you play? Okay. Would you dance with Kareem Hunt? No. No. You'd play Kenyon Drake over Hunt? Hunt had six carries. I'd play Hunter over Drake. You've, you've not felt the pains of starting. No, I just think that the way this game is going to be against Buffalo, the rushing opportunity, you could have more hunt in this game. You could. I hope so. I could get two carries if Gus busts his back. I don't, I think he's safer for more than two. Yeah? Yeah, they will time share. Is this just me not wanting him to be good? Mm-hmm. That could be it. It comes down to. I guess he had 11 attempts, even when he was bad.

And like when the game after the Gus Edwards, when he returned and had the two touchdowns, Kenyon Drake was very involved in that game as well. So it will be a timeshare regardless. The roulette of the touchdowns, though that's, you're just hoping that your color lands. All right. Say the name of the wide receiver you would take a chance on in a matchup here. You know, Carolina, 25th against whiteouts. Devin Duverne. Not to Marcus Robinson? No. I mean, you said I had to say the name of a... No, no, you did. And you accomplished the goal. Yep, thank you. All right, the rankings, the starts-it tool on the website, the fantasy footballers.com. We'll cover the rest of the matchups tomorrow. It's time to get into our starts. Starts of the week. Well, I got jealous. This is grand theft. I got jealous, and I got into the show doc early. Grand theft. Now Justin Fields is my start of the week. What a great start, Andy. Suck it, Mike. The Footland knows. Look, I know this is cheating.

Yeah. We all know that Justin Fields should be out there. But I have seen a lot of questions about Mahomes, Justin Fields. Oh my gosh. Josh Allen and the snow are Justin Fields. I'm not willing to sit those two guys, but I am willing to sit everybody else. I think Justin Fields, you know, the bears, they've unlocked that cheat code. He's averaging 17.1 rushing fantasy points per game. So, you know, we've seen it broken down all different ways, but. He's a running back that averages 17 rushing fantasy points per game, and then is the whole quarterback, right? This is like if you gave Taysam Hill a bunch of steroids at the quarterback position. It's been incredible. That's Saquan Barclay's fantasy points during that span. The 17. That's crazy. So you get Saquan plus a quarterback. And it doesn't matter if that quarterback looks like Mahomes that day or he looks like Sam Darnold that day.

Yeah, you still get the quarterback points. So right now he's got the highest percentage of fantasy points via the ground for any quarterback ever. So it has been predominantly on the ground, but he's been a much better passer too because if your defense is thinking about having someone run for 178 yards on you, you're going to give up some Colcomette, no one's around you type of plays. Chase Claypool touchdowns. Chase Claypool touchdowns. Atlanta is quite forgiving. They rank dead last in passing yards allowed and pressure rate. Justin Fields over everyone but Mahomes and Allen. Yeah. I like it. I'm going to go with Dak Prescott as my start of the week for fantasy quarterbacks. Two areas are key to success. What kind of success do they have in the red zone?

And do they connect on big plays? The Vikings have allowed the second highest red zone touchdown rate in the league and the highest rate of 15 plus yard passing plays in the NFL. Check and check. Since the beginning of 2021, DAC has averaged 41 pass attempts per game on the road. The volume and the matchup should be good for Dak to be a top five quarterback this week. Oh, I love it. I'm my quarterback this week. And a quarterback's, it's interesting this week. It's hard to get a. Strong start. You guys, you two have a good one. So I just, I went with my streamer. It's Daniel Jones. It's the plus matchup against the Lions deep. Check out this guy. He had Justin Fields last week and now he has to go Daniel Jones. Oh man. What a loser. I wish you had Justin Fields. I do on my teams. How many teams you got Justin Fields on over there? Zero. Zero. That's right. Fraud. Uh, Daniels. Uh, Daniel, that's change your opinion. Yeah. Yeah. It's too late for you. The Daniel Jones meetings have locked the door.

or uh that's right that's right they have also you've trained you've always been a daniel jones guy good point daniel jones truther he locked that door yeah the door has been locked from the outside yeah the call is coming from inside the house uh daniel jones is a fine streaming play this week uh detroit allowing the most yards per game most points per game and it's just it's all there just don't watch okay Brian Robinson is my running back start of the week, taking on Houston. Got that Monday night victory where they ran the ball 49 times. He saw 26 scaries. He got into the end zone. I still think the math equation for Brian Robinson requires a touchdown, even in this game for you to be happy. But season high, 52% of snaps. No J.D. McKissick out there. Game script-wise.

Washington should be able to take it to Houston and put these running backs in a position to look, you could have a fourth quarter of Brian Robinson running the football because they have a lead. This is delicious. Play your running backs against Houston, please. Yeah, no, I like Brian Robinson a lot. And for the record, I like Antonio Gibson too. Yeah, yeah. At running back, we talked about it a minute ago. It's Jamal Williams. Andy, you brought up the fact that the Giants are number seven against the run. They don't look like a great. matchup, but it's a lot better than you might think. The New York Giants are allowing the most yards before contact, the second highest yards per carry in the NFL. Here's the last couple of running backs they've faced. Damian Pierce, 94 yards, and then a red zone fumble that could have turned into a touchdown. Travis ETN, 114 yards and a score. Kenyon Drake.

119 yards in a score, Zeke and Pollard combined for 178 yards. The Lions' offensive line is great, and Jamal Williams has been awesome all year. I'm making it in my start of the week. Now, my only concern with Jamal Williams is not the Giants' defense. He mispractice with an illness. Now, I'm not concerned about the illness if he plays. If he plays, they're saying he's good to go. I think you should start him. But we saw Damien Harris miss an entire game with an illness. If he doesn't play, Obviously not a good start of the week. I would go with Isaiah Pacheco as my backup. We saw Devante Adams play with an illness and have, what, one reception? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So, I mean, the bug that's going around right now. If Jamal Williams is active, I will be starting. It got the owl. Yeah, yeah, it did. My run back start of the week. I'm going with Cordero. Pitter Patterson against the Chicago Bears. Keep those legs moving. The Chicago Atlanta game, the highest over under of the week.

because the NFL has turned upside down. The touchdowns, they always come in bunches for Cordero Patterson. He ranks second among all running backs with a first down or a touchdown on 30% of his carries. He has a great player. The matchup is there. Bears 29th and Red Zone touchdown rate. So I think that the Falcons can keep up with good old Arthur's game plan, which is to establish it. And I think that Patterson's ready. Cadarius, Tony is my wide receiver start of the week. Oh, baby. Chargers. Love it. Love it. Targeted on 29% of his routes last week. Two rush attempts. He's a weapon. The best one they have outside of Travis Kelsey right now. He was the wide receiver 12 last week. I don't know if people realize that. Explosive, Jujum, McColl. You know, Skymore is not getting it done. He has eight total touches for the Chiefs. That's equated to 102 and a score. I think he gets the...

five to eight touches in this game and it's going to be good enough for you to be very, very happy with Kidarius. Tony, I'm in. At wide receiver, I'm going with Joshua Palmer as my start of the week. I do not believe that both Keenan Allen and Mike Williams will be active for this game. And if one of them or both of them are gone, Joshua Palmer should be in your lineup. He's had eight targets and five of his last six games played. including eight targets against Kansas City, where he came away with a touchdown in week two. That is his only touchdown on the season. Kansas City ranks 28th and scheduled Justin Fantasy Points to the wide receiver. We just saw Christian Kirk blow up on them. This is going to be very, very necessary for a game in division. And you saw two weeks ago over 100 receiving yards for Joshua Palmer.

Big disappointment this last week, but this last week was on the road against the San Francisco 49ers. Great defense. This one is going to be a good week for Joshua Palmer. And Justin Fields was stolen from me, but I've got Darnell Mooney, the wide receiver for the Chicago Bears as my start of the week. We did talk about target share of the context, but he's still at 30%. He's the go-to guy for Justin Fields, and I think that they will have success. through the air as well as on the ground with the falcons ranking dead last. We haven't seen that explosion just yet, but over the last five weeks, you know, averaging seven targets a game. And if, like, if Colcomette can get it done, like if they actually guard him, then it's going to go to Darnell Mooney. His season would look different to fantasy players if he had gotten into the end zone more than one time. That's been the story. You know, his, his yardage has just gone up. He's a really good player.

A couple more touchdowns. We'd be talking a little bit differently, and maybe one comes this week. Dalton Schultz against Minnesota is my start of the week at the tight-in position. I think you might be the tight-in three rest of season behind Kelsey and Andrews. Possible. Possible. It's been great. Seven for 62, five for 49, six for 74, six for 54 in a touchdown. That'll do. That's better than most tight-ins that you're ever going to get near. Get near? Yeah, the approach. toss under your lineup, whatever you want to say. It goes with Jason's start of the week. Yeah, I tried to trade my start of the week for your start of the week in real football. If you were with us on the party room last night, George Kittle was my trade away player. I am terrified of what his involvement is with the combination of Christian McCaffrey and Debo Samuel. But I'm trusting the process, Arizona. I always start every tight-in against Arizona and they always come through. Obviously, George Kittle has the talent to come through.

Arizona cannot guard a tight end leaking out at all. Tyler Higbee last week with a backup quarterback was 8 for 73. Since 2018, Kittle has averaged 5 and 76 against Arizona. Kittle was born for prime time in Mexico City. I think Kittle has a good game. And if your trade deadline is open after this week, I would still try to trade. It's a Monday night, Mexico City game, right? Yes. And for my tight end start of the week, I'm going a little bit deeper here. Oh, they're underpants. They are back. They are back. It's Foster Moreau this week. He's a tight end. I think he's a spot starter for you. For the Raiders. For the Las Vegas Raiders. The matchup is slightly better than you would think because the Denver Broncos, if they are beat anywhere, it is by the tight end position over the past five weeks. It is the 26th best, as you would say, against the fantasy tight end.

Foster Rowe, he's the king of 40 yards. So if nothing, you'll get at least 40 yards. But I think he has a chance for another touchdown as we just saw the past week. Jason Moore's Ironclad, locked and loaded, 100% guaranteed boom, boom kicker of the wig. As a reminder, the Foot Clan and I are about to battle the big batty Robbie Gould. Okay. Mr. Gould began to chuckle. My knees began to buckle, had me shaking like Shaggy and Scooby-Doo. But a horseman made him blind. Like Gandalf, he shined down the mountain was Young Way Coo. That's one of my favorites. Yeah, okay, I'm back. All right. Come, I need all of you. I didn't realize all these kickers would be pretty into the narrative, like playing a big role in what's taking place here. And like they all fight each other. Some, some do. Some help. So competitive position.

Is there a dark side and a light side? Oh, for sure. Gould is on the dark side. Is that because of his last name? I mean, he's a ghoul. I mean, he started to chuckle. Creepy. Made my knees buckle. All right. Tomorrow the rest of the matchups, the wheel of shame. It's not me, Jason. It's not me, Andy. Oh, I wonder who it's going to be. Brooks. I don't think it's Brooks. Thank you to Jay Gris for holding it down. Yes, incredible day. Great job. On the ones and twos. Take care, everybody. See you later. Goodbye. you for listening to another episode of the fantasy footballers podcast join our fantasy football community on join the foot dot com and follow us on twitter at the ffballers