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Week 10 Matchups + Turtle Up, Wheel of Shame | Fantasy Football 2023 - Ep. 1501

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Post-1500 Friday episode returns to Deucer's Alley, Foot Clan Friday, the Wheel of Shame and a producer-made secret broadcast stunt.

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You need to take a hard look at benching both of those players. And it is impossible to bench Devante Adams because of his name. He hasn't been that great, but that's not the reason you bench him. The reason you bench him is because you have a rookie quarterback in Aden O'Connell going up against this Jets defense that on average over the course of the season is basically giving up about 14 fantasy points per game to the wide receiver position as a whole. And so maybe all 14 go to Devante Adams. No, it's very fair. But you're really... Devonte's last five games, if you extrapolated it, this is a wide receiver that would have 61 receptions on 120 targets, so that's 50% for 598 yards and no touchdown. You're desperately hoping you get Keenan Allen's line of 8 for 77 last week against the jet. Yes, yes. And the truth is we start Garrett Wilson because we believe in the talent and the targets will be there and they come from the worst source.

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And that's where I'm at with Devante this week, but I don't. Look, if you have a better option. Tyler Lockett. Let me ask. Tyler Lockett's in for me for sure. Christian Kirk is in for me for sure. But let me ask some ones that you go, ooh, I don't do. Would I really do that? If you had Tank Dell or Devante Adams, where are you going? I'm going Tank Dell if Nico's out. I will go Adams in that one. Calvin Ridley or Devante Adams. Oh my gosh. Against the 49ers. I mean, this is tough, man. This is really tough. I'm going to play Devante again. You'll slide that paper across to me after six weeks. The last one, Marquis Hollywood Brown or Devante Adams. Probably Hollywood. I will say, these are all great questions. The nice thing about playing Devante Adams is it's not your fault. Right. No, you're right. You're like, hey.

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I put my superstar in. He disappointed. This is not on me. I didn't do anything wrong. No, that's valuable. That's valuable for your mental health. It's legit advice. That's legit advice. You don't, because if you put him on your bench and you play John Dodson and then Adams has a couple touchdowns on deep balls. That's on you. Let's remember two games go, he had two bombs, a 92-yard touchdown and a 60-yard touchdown. that were right there. And if I missed that, that's on me. Yeah. Yeah. Good point, Mike. I'm going to go, I'm going to make sure I lose with dignity. I'm going to win with steel underpants. All right. That's fine. Yeah, yeah. Denver, Buffalo, Monday Night Football, the Broncos 3 and 5, Buffalo's 5 and 4. Buffalo minus 7. I'm doing it. Andy's almost upset of the week. That's the reaction I needed. On the road.

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On the road? That's spicy. Buffalo's been weird, man. Buffalo's been a weird game. They've been a weird team. I don't know if you know this, Jay. Denver's been known to be a pretty cold place. That's fair. This isn't the LA team going into the snow. This is a team in Buffalo that won 14 to 9 at home against the Giants. Okay. This is a team that lost to Jacksonville at home. Actually, I think that game was, that might have been overseas. They were technically the home team. But they've had weird, weird games. And I like what I saw from Denver in their last game. They're coming off the by two weeks to prepare for Sean Payton. Javante is looking the part. This is a defense that is not the Buffalo Bills defense of old. The last six weeks, if you look at the schedule adjusted defense on the course of the season, right, that's usually one of the most valuable things to look at.

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This is a defense you target. The Broncos have sucked. They're 26 against quarterbacks, 32nd against running backs, 29th against tight ends. What Andy's saying is that's not their defense anymore. We talked about it when it happened. That 70-point game against the Miami Dolphins, it skews the season-long numbers. Over the last six weeks, they're the second most difficult matchup for quarterbacks, the second most difficult matchup for wide receivers, top 10 against running backs. Their defense has recovered from the calamity. So, yes, the Broncos defense has. And I was saying the Bill's defense of old is not there anymore. They give up tons of points to both sides of the ball. They've been one of the worst over the last six weeks. So many injuries. They had such a great defense start the year. And then all their great defensive players got injured. It's really sad. So look, it doesn't change how you're starting Diggs and Allen and James Cook and, you know, Dalton Kincaid has been.

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peppered with targets. I just think that there's higher odds that this is a really good game. And you kind of see it with, I mean, that over under is 47. That gives the Denver Broncos 20 points in this game. And the bill's 27. It's prime time. You know, the bills haven't covered a spread since week four. Wow. So, I mean, you're talking about a weird team right now. And I'm kind of excited for this game. I want to see what happens. I'm trying to give like a post by Olive Branch. to the Broncos. Because we have lived in the slums with the Broncos prognostication for a long time. And I think they might figure some stuff out here. I like what you're saying. I think it would be great for Monday night football to have a good game out of this. You've got Cortland Sutton, who's had nine plus fantasy points in all but one game on the season. That is so absurd and shocking. It feels like Cortland Sutton is the equivalent of the basketball cherry picker.

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You know how they just stay back on defense? Yeah, they don't play D. They're just down there. Throw the ball. I just feel like Sutton just stays in the end zone and just waits. I'm not moving. Just give me a touch. I don't know how they don't call off sides and stuff. Well, because he sits out of bounds. Oh, and then steps in? Yeah. So he tricks the ref. I mean, I think you can play him. Judy has not been good. I think he is okay in this game. I would play Jerry Judy over Gabe Davis. Oh, let me ask you this. If you had Gabe Davis on your team, Andy. Ask him for a friend.

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Would you start him, just generically speaking, do you want to start Gabe Davis this week? No. Mike, do you want to start Gabe Davis this week? A little bit. Okay. A little bit. He's looking for two. Owl. No, he's, I know what he's doing. Let's go to Deucer's Alley here. Owl, would you want to start Gabe Davis this week? No. Brooks, would you want to start Gabe Davis this week? Nope. Rap, would you want to start Gabe Davis this week? Nope. So you freaking fire him up. You put him in the lineup. There was a graph. I don't remember who had this great tweet. It was like the Gabe Troll Index or something. The Gabe Troll Index. If you go to Twitter and search Gabe Troll, you'll find it. It is basically all the games where he's been started in more than 30% of ESPN rosters.

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His totals were like zero, one point, three points, just absolutely the worst. But all the games that are below that where he's just not started. He's got like 21. Shout out to at Stadthole Sports, Jeffro, the Gabe Davis fantasy football troll of the year resume. Yeah. So people aren't starting him. If he's under 20% started. 21 points, 15 points, 23 points. If he's up over 30% started, three points, one point zero points. It's unbelievable. That is, he is the troll. He is the troll. So you know he's going to be under 30% started this week. So if you've got the underpants. But what's crazy is if everybody gets that resume. Yeah. We've got a too big an audience. So about half you start them so that we can keep that start percentage under 30%. Wow. All right. Javante, like I said, put him in there.

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James Cook's not been great fantasy-wise. He's just around. It seems like he's more involved than the fantasy points seem to be producing because he doesn't score. Russ Wilson or, you know, the matchup against Buffalo when you glance at it, you're like, oh, I don't want to do that. You're still scared. And Russell Wilson, when you glance at him, you're like, I don't want to do that. I put Russell Wilson into my lineup this week in one of my leagues. I did too. And to me, this is a guy that should be in consideration with, like, Gino and Brock Purdy this week.

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I think Russ could have a game. Yeah, Russ has been okay. I mean, right now he's the quarterback 15 on the course of the season. He's usually not a top 12 guy. He hasn't had big performances, but he hasn't had more than one flat dud this season. So he's been a higher floor, very low ceiling player. How do you throw three touchdowns and score under 18 points? You only have 114 passing yards. That's incredible. Two injury updates before the faceoff. James Connor trending in the right direction. Jamar Chase's back at practice again on Friday. Great. Two important players. Sol, there you go. You guys ready? Mm-hmm. Fantasy face-off, presented by Draft Kings. All right, into the face-off for week 10.

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I'm looking at the stats over the course of the year. I was last place last week. Jason was first. That's right. Mike was second. First or last? That means that through nine weeks, I have finished first, second, and third, three times each. Nice. Jason has finished first five times. Second, zero times, fourth, four times. Or third, fourth. Wait. Third, four times. Four times. And then Mike is sitting at one, six, two. He is almost always in second place. I am executing my strategy to perfection. Yeah. So look, I'm the loser. I'm laying up. Yeah, I can tell you right now, I'm going to be first or last this week. Go for it? Nah. Just, I'm going to settle in. Yep. Just be comfortable. I'm going to approach the green with caution. You know, we should really get him on ashamed again, Jason. All right, let's spin the wheel. I need to pay the piper. Wheel of shame. All right, do it. Spin that stupid wheel.

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Spin it. All right. Spin the wheel. I saw a silly wabbit. I see win $100,000. Rainy day. Dobby Lobby. Oh, toast. Toast. A piece of, I'm a piece of toast. You are toast. Also, Mike and I, we basically both won since I was like less than a point away. So we will also toast. We are going to toast as well. Mike has some champagne. Hey, I don't mind if I do. Careful. So you two are toasting my toast. We're really, we're toasting our greatness. What a stupid costume. This is not our best. We'll just tell the footclan what happened. Top me off here, brother. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So this morning, we, we hid the champagne and the wine flutes down under the table. And we got it all prepped, like taking off the foil and the little golden.

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thingy that's on top of it. The foil. Is that? I don't know. Yeah, that's the foil. And so we had it sitting down under the desk just hidden away before the show. And he's in here. And we're just standing talking. And then all of a sudden. Yeah. It ruined the surprise. But I'm still going to. Every time I turn my head, the toast hits the microphone. You look like SpongeBob. Yeah. Yeah, a little bit. But he's definitely not. He's definitely not. Honestly, I feel like this is the kind of thing. I could take this on a plane and get a good sleep in.

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that's like a nice head pillow it's like a low like plain toast all right into the lineup we go enjoy your champagne gentlemen yes a toast to us jason clink yeah clink clink all right all right i'll go first uh the toast goes first my quarterback this week uh bounced around a bunch of options i went with a sixty seven hundred dollar option oh right and i believe that my lineup is going to be very different from your guys is this week I'm going with Dak. I'm taking the points. All right. Dak at home. Yeah, we are going to have a different lineup. Yeah, I know. Heavily favorite. I think I know who Jason started at quarterback. Yeah. But I am taking Dak at 6,700, and I believe Jason took Kyler Murray. Oh, you're darn right. I did 5,900 for a quarterback that can put up 20 fantasy points. I will definitely have Kyler Murray in my lineup.

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And I have Brock Purdy. Nice. At 5,700. So we are alive with all of our quarterbacks. I had Purdy in for a while. He's cheaper than Kyler and I think he's a better play than Kyle. I feel like this is the first time all season. We've had three different quarterbacks. We've had that a couple times. All right. My running backs, you guys will have to see if you can know who these players are. Andy is not being punished at all. What is this? It's super comfortable. Yeah. I just, he's relaxing. I am. I'm chilling. Like I want to put my head down. There's a nice pillow. My running backs Christian McCaffrey at 9200. All right. Alvin Camara at their 8,300. Oh, back to the Camara. Yeah. Okay. I have two completely different running backs. I have Joe Mixing at 6,200. I get it. I get it. Against Houston. And going with my guy.

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Against the Cardinals. Bijon Robinson, only $6,000. I think this is his breakout. I rode with you on that one. So I have Bijon for 6K. And then I have my start of the week. I got Tony Pollard. So we will be at odds of rooting for touchdowns. Well, let's just throw the flex out real quick then because I got Bijon at flex. Oh, all right. So I have Camara McCaffrey and Bajon. You have. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. The math does check out. Myflex is not that good. My flex is Kyle Phillips at 3,000. Oh, that's not bad. My flex is your wide receiver. Yeah, because there's no way you putting Christian McCaffrey and all that money in there without being cheap. My flex is Jackson Smith and Jigba against the manders at home. How much is he? 4,100. All right. My wide receiver room, this is the one that I did a late pivot this morning.

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I'm actually for the first time I think ever that I can remember. I don't have a stack with DAC because I'm just. Oh, I get it. I get it. I'm not stacking DAC this week. I have Terry McLaurin against Seattle at 5,800, some guaranteed points at a good price. I have Drake London at 5,500 against Arizona, healthy, back at it, terrible defense. And then I have Kyle Phillips at 3,000. So that's how I afforded McCaffrey, Camara, and Robinson. My wide receivers, I think, are my strength this week. I've got Amin Rae St. Brown, who's just been a machine. He's so annoying to play against. 8,300. I've got DeAndre Hopkins at 6,000. It sucks to have him and Kyle Phillips both. That was my pivoted from Hopkins to McLaren to not double down 11th. I get it. Two Titans, huh? Yep. I'm doing it. And Marquise Hollywood Brown to stack with Kyler at 5200. All right.

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Oh, man, this, this costume is just so uncomfortable. Don't ever do this to me again. Yeah. These are the worst kind of costumes. I will double annoyed for you, Andy, then, because I'm also playing Ammon Rae St. Brown against the Chargers. I have Noah Brown against the Bengals. That could be all right. That could be all right. It could be all right. And then I was waiting on pins and needles. Am I riding alone? I am. Jamar Chase 8,300. I'm not going to fear the back injury. T. Higgins will be out. We're seeing at least 10 targets for Chase this week. So I'm the only one with Christian McCaffrey, right? Correct. That has worked out well for me in the past. My final two players, my tight end of my defense, I had to spend bare bones. I am a big fan of the Tampa matchup. That's why you have Hopkins in there. That's why we have Kyle Phillips in there. And that's why I went Chicka Conquo, who is running a ton of routes right now. Cardio King. So I have Chig and Phillips at 3,000 each. So those are basement level.

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Wait, so you have two Titans. I have two Titans. Yeah, very nice. A con quo. And then I have the Cardinals. I have the Cardinals at 2,500. I get it. I don't like their defense, but I do like Heineke make a mistake. And, I mean, got to root for it, man. Yeah, at home. Anti-Arthur. Yeah. No, totally. I pivoted to the Cardinals this morning, but I went back away. I have for the first time. For the first time this season, I paid up. You paid up for a defense? I paid up for a defense. $4,000. Dallas? I'm playing the Cowboys. That could be a problem for us. And I paid up at tight end. So this is the opposite of how I usually build. I've got T.J. Hawkinson there for $5,000. Now, should something come out about the snap count or being limited or if he's out with the rib injury says he's likely to play. So what's your, my pivot will be the doctor short. What's your tight end defensive total?

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My tight-in defensive total is 9,400. Yeah, and I'm at 5,500. All right. At tight-in, I have T. McB., got T. McBride in there for the first game with Kyler, and I have the Bengals. The Cincinnati Bengals at home against Cesar Stroud. Love Stroud, but when he's on the road against a tough matchup, I have no problem playing against the rookie. That was my favorite cheap option in defense of Cincinnati because they were just, what are they, 2,800 or something? 2800. This feels like the most open. different lineups we've had in totality. All right. That was Fantasy Faceoff presented by Draft King Sportsbook. Download the Draft King Sportsbook right now and use the promo code ballers to get $200 in free bets instantly when you place a $5 bet on any football game. That is the code ballers only at Draft King Sportsbook. That is going to do it for today's show. I got to get out of this super uncomfortable costume you guys put me into. This pillow. Maybe steal some of that champagne.

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And catch Mike Sunday live, ballerslive.com, before the games. Goodbye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on join thefoot.com. And follow us on Twitter at theFF ballers.