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Let’s Talk Trades + TNF Preview, Party Time - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/10

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very worried. We've seen years with Aaron Rogers where he has supported two top 24. Three. Yeah, three top 24, two top 12 guys. So I don't think that Devante Adams is going to be hurt by that. And if he goes to the Chiefs, I just really have a hard time believing he's going to get used as much as, you know, he's just going to be slightly better to Marcus Robinson. We've got an interesting update here from Tom Silverstein saying, according to an NFL source,

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The Packers are only offering the veteran minimum to owe us back. Good for you. At least that's where they're starting. No, I mean, it makes sense. The Packers don't do things like this. So this is more, when I thought about, you know, when they said this is where he wants to be, I'm like, he's going to go for free. I mean, you're going to go into this team because you want to display that you still have it with the best thrower in football or one of the best throws in football because the Packers don't make these deals. I'm curious Al, you know, Mr.

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Mr. Packer over there, what your thought process is, because to me, the Packers are a better football team with Odell than without it. Probably, but I'd rather am not signed with the Packers. Now, is that because you have Devante Adams on your League of Record team? No. We got enough negativity going on in the title town right now. And you feel like Odell could bring negativity to your franchise? He brings drama, that's for sure. Yeah, I mean, if you're there and you've got those kicking nets, I'd watch out.

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Question from YouTube, I picked up the Muth. Oh, congratulations. He was super Luth. Oh, so Luth. Hold on, hold on. Very important. Yeah, I bet I know where you're going. Very important Friamuth discussion. Yeah, I know where you're going. Right here, right now, we have to decide. How do you spell L-U-T-H? It's got to be L-U-T-H. See, that's...

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I don't know. And I get it. I get it. And I'm going to listen to. I'm not just going to talk. You guys can, you guys can convince me otherwise. Maybe the most important thing we've talked about in a while. It's pronounced mute, mute. But it's spelled MUTH, which you would read Muth. Yes. Right? But his name dictates the MUTH because that is correct. That's how it's spelled. Okay. So if that.

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M-U-T-H is Muth, then L-U-T-H is L-U-T-H. The logic train works. However, when you spell a L-O-O-T-H, you do build in a little bit of the luth. You built in a little bit of the... And you remove all doubt for like if someone's just stumbling upon...

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the mute is luth for the very first time. You're teaching them how to say mute. No, no, no, no. There's still doubt there because what they're going to read is the month is luth. And that makes no sense. They won't read that. What you need to do, in my opinion, is it's either M-U-T-H-L-U-T-H or it's M-O-O-T-H.

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L-O-O-O-T-H. No, I'm okay. Then that settles it. I agree. It's M-U-T-H-L-U-T-H. I listened and I have now declared. We are after the show, Brooks, after we post this podcast, we need to get a poll up. I've also been paying attention to social media and how people choose to orate this. I've done both. I have too, but I think that I am formally in the camp of the M-U-T-H is

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L-O-O-T-H. That's where I've landed. Okay, that's the worst one. No, the worst one is your little M-O-O-T-H. I agree. You change his last name like a crazy person. I agree. That's terrible. M-U-T-H-L-U-T-H. No. The mute is Luth. No, because I see people out there and they're right in Luth, man. The double O, you want that in there. So what are we doing? We're doing a poll. Yeah, I think we're abiding by the poll. I think we should abide by the poll. We're men of the people.

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tough that's going to be tough for me jason's worried that his side's going to lose you realize if he if he ends up going out and not scoring any fancy points he put up a goof very nice this thing is caught on man oh it's important to me that some sometime in his when he goes into the end zone he's hearing from the crowd and somebody's screaming the mute is luth

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I'm sure. It's hard to, oh, like, it's already built in because of the, the vowel sound that the whole crowd just goes moot. Because anytime someone has double O sound in their name, they all, it, it just happens. It sounds like they're getting booed, but. But I'm telling you, like now when I meet people that know the show and they say, hey, love your show, the next thing that they say is,

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The Muth is loose, baby. You're done right. It's fun. It's so fun to say. All right. So about the player. About the player. Should I trade away T.J. Hawkinson because I picked up Pat Fryer Muth is the question. Well, you got to have the context of it because initially it's like, well, no, you would, T.J. Hawkinson is going to be the better fantasy tight end moving forward. But do you have? Well, he's far more valuable in trade.

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as well. Yes. But do you have the confidence that you can use Hawkinson to go out there and upgrade a wide receiver or a running back and then have the Muth as your starting tight end? Specifically with tight ends, this is more complicated. Because I also don't like giving other people in my league a tight in that is a competitive tight end. Like there is a real risk.

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involved in doing that. If I have these two players, I'm not looking at this as I'm going to just try to go cash in right here right now. I'm probably playing Hawkinson. But here, this one's going to put you the test. And this one's from Brendan Wood off of YouTube. Has the Muth. His running back two was Chase Edmonds, who is now out for, you know, three minimum. Chase Edmonds is going to miss some time. So now...

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Brendan's running back to is Naheem Hines. He could trade Hawkinson right now for Giovante Williams and have that as his running back two and then downgrade to the Muth. I'd probably do that. Yeah. Context is everything because like I can tell you right now I have good value. This is this is my situation. I have T.J. Hawkinson and I picked up Pat Friar Muth for the bye.

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I have these two guys. I am not looking to trade Hawkinson. Hawkinson is my tight end. I'm not looking to cut Pat Fryermuth either. I'm holding both of them for now. But if I have a need and I can capitalize, then absolutely I would take advantage of that. But in a vacuum, just I'm not seeing the value of these guys and saying Fryermuth is locked. He's not locked. He's a rookie. I've talked about all the bad games that you're going to have from Kyle Pitts because he's a rookie tight end.

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That's still true of the better rookie tight end. So, yeah, I'm willing to help my team, obviously, by trading Hawkinson for an upgrade where it matters. But I am not wanting to have to rely on Pat Fryermuth as a weekly starter going forward. My favorite thing to do in these situations when you have an emerging tight end who has a big game on my team is use that player.

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This is independent of Hawkinson, is use that player in a multiplayer trade to acquire a better tight end that I can count on. If you get two great weeks from Pat Friermuth and then you have a trade that involves a couple wide outs and like you have Friamuth and they have Waller or you have Friamuth and they have Kelsey and then you mix the wide receivers in and then you can make a compelling argument to the other manager that they're not downgrading that much. Right. That's the argument you want to make is,

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It's not much of a difference. Look at what Muth has done. Don't you want to say the Muth is Luth on your team? It's very impressive. You know, seven targets, seven targets, six. Like, he's the last three games, he's averaging a 20% target. Now, if you can take Friar Muth and pair him with a Devon Singletary to get a James Connor or up, yeah, I mean, I would rather trade Friar Mute than Hawk. Would you rather trade Hawkinson?

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for Giovante Williams or the Muth for James Connor. The Muth for James Connor. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, Connor should be better than Chivante rest of the season, barring an injury to Melvin Gordon. Yeah. What about trading away Daryl Henderson? This question from YouTube. Hudson wants to know, you know, he's missed out twice out of three games on great matchups. He has a history of getting banged up, including those games where he left. Oh, every single game.

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You can start Sony. He has hit points that are just... He's the new Shady McCoy. Sony Michelle is the starter from about three minutes left in the first half to the end of the half. That's when Henderson usually goes down. He just likes a good half. Oh, absolutely. He's, yeah, he just needs a good halftime break. That's right. Refuel. And he's got an upcoming by. And you really look at this rest of season. I know, Mike, you were...

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very big fan of Daryl Henderson being a potential league winner. So I'd love to know where you're out with him now. Do you take advantage of the upcoming by and his injury concerns to try to capitalize? Or is he a hold? Like, where are you? He's a hold for me. I get it coming off of the Tennessee game. It feels bad. But right before that, he was the running back three. I mean, he has been incredible for fantasy football. He's currently a top 12 running back.

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And like one of the trade offers were, we were sent as do you trade Daryl Henderson for James Robinson? And for me, that's an easy no. Like I want the player on the better offense. James Robinson should be solid moving forward. But Henderson's on a, he's just on such a good team that had a real stinker that if the sentiment on Henderson is down right now.

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And I can leverage that and the upcoming by week to say, hey, I'm going to help your team. I'm going to take Henderson off your hands. I would do that immediately. It's not an easy no for me on the James Robinson because James Robinson was great. You know, right before he was injured, he had a month-long stretch where he was an RB1 every single week and he passes by. So you are factually definitely getting an extra game out of these players, assuming no injuries from here on forward with both.

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I get what you're saying, and I'm not, I don't think I would trade Henderson. The Robinson's playoff schedule is actually pretty juicy. Yeah, but that, well, that's more of what I wanted to bring up. It's not trade Darrell Henderson for James Robinson. I see that as pretty even, but it is a trade for James Robinson. James Robinson is coming off an injury is a name on a team that is so easy to just fall out of love with. I mean, you can forget what James Robinson did.

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in the blink of an eye. And I think that it won't be too hard to acquire him. He's not, you know, you're not going to go out there and be able to trade for Zeke and, or trade for, you know, a great running back. James Robinson is probably as good a running back as you can get for, you know, a package of mediocrity from your team. One injury follow-up that we didn't mention in the news, but both Romandre Stevenson and Damien Harris are both in concussion protocol. Okay. What was that?

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Think you get some news? I wanted clarity. I wanted health. No, they're both. At least for one of them. They're both going through the process. Let me quickfire some trade questions to you before we get into our Thursday Night Football Breakdown. Instagram question. I gave Debo. Else is a review. I gave Debo for Kyla Murray and Kyle Pitts. Who won? I think I'd take the probably the Kyler side.

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Yeah, me too. I think you did well for where we're at with Debo right now. You know, Kiddle has been gone. Ayuk has become more involved. You have a potential quarterback changeover. Like Debo's rest of season, I don't see being better than the beginning. Yeah. And while this last week probably felt bad because you didn't have Kyler and Kyle Pitts stunk, I would say. You didn't have Debo either, right? Two points or something like that? Yeah, I would say you.

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You won going forward. Was Devo that bad? No, I don't think he was. I think I'm thinking about like halfway through the game. He had like two points. And then he got a screen. Yeah, he got that big screen. Because he just finds a way to get it done. Five for 63. What a terrible game. He was almost going to not play and then played on the calf again. I mean, what a resilient player. Just a, just a model of health. Yeah. YouTube question from Daniel.

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This is a good one. Buy low on T. Higgins, question mark. Hasn't scored since week two, barely missed a touchdown last week. But obviously, it's been kind of nasty for Joe Burrow in recent weeks. Tough division. Tough matchups coming up. What do you do? Are you actively pursuing T. Higgins? I love T. Higgins. I think that he is a great target because he's not going to cost a lot. And his ability to go north is there. You just get in the end zone.

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