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Let’s Talk Trades + TNF Preview, Party Time - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/10

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Let’s Talk Trades + TNF Preview, Party Time - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/10

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Well, we're going to use this Wednesday episode to talk trades, lots of trade questions, players that have been brought up in trade discussions and rumors and what should we do with them. And there's a pretty solid day trader article up on the website every week by Jeff Greenwood. And you can check that out at the fantasy footballers.com. We also have, you know, we haven't mentioned a lot of the tools available to the Foot Clan.

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recently, but the strength of schedule tool. I've been using that all the time now. As, you know, trade deadlines are approaching and you want to, this is the time where maybe you're starting to peak at the playoff schedule. It's really nice to look ahead at a glance quickly at all teams at a certain position, and you can change the weekly ranges when it matters the most for you. So one of the...

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Most mentioned players regarding trade talks, trade four, trade away, hold them. Right. It's Antonio Gibson running back for the Washington football team. People with questions about his value. So we can start with the discussion on the Antonio Gibson landscape and then get into some specifics with players. But, you know, people want to know what do you do with Gibson? What is the upside, the downside?

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And I don't know if you guys saw yesterday they were talking about, you know, Ryan Fitzpatrick going in for another MRI. I mean, it all sounded extremely negative to me in terms of any potential return for him. And, you know, that would be a variable, right? Like if Ryan Fitzpatrick was coming back, there would be a variable there where you're saying maybe the game script for the Washington football team changes from what it's been. The defense has not been good.

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Gibson has been banged up. What's the sentiment? Your hope is that there are going to be good changes, especially regarding health coming off of the byweek. Health and rest for Gibson. Yeah, your hope at the quarterback position, but that one is gone. Logan Thomas, even Terry McLaurin, who's been banged up. So.

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If you want to look at this glass half full, it's that this team was really, really banged up. They had the buy week at a very important time. They're going to come out, be a little healthier, and have a much better second half of the season. And if that happens, Antonio Gibson should be really good for fantasy football. Now, that's the glass half full. That is, I have drank that. It is empty now. The glass is gone. Oh, no. Because I don't believe that.

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That's my hope, and I could see how that happens, but this team had some hopes to winning the division. That's gone. They are not in the running. Dallas Cowboys won the division already. Their defense was supposed to be great. They're terrible.

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The vibes there are awful. I don't think that one week of rest is enough to heal the ailments of Antonio Gibson. So I think you're going to have more of what you've seen the last month, which is not great fantasy output. But because there is a narrative and there is hope and he's passed his by, I think you can sell Antonio Gibson on the hope of his talent and on the hope of being passed the by and healthy.

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You have to just decide which side of the camp you're on. And here is how I'm handling Antonio Gibson. If you are out, you need to trade him right now. Like immediately start building a package trade to get Antonio Gibson out because his value is low. It's about to get lower. But Tampa Bay and Carolina are the next two matchups, which are going to be disgusting unless somehow...

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Terry McGloren draws a pass interference in the end zone, and there is a one-yard touchdown available for Antonio Gibson. Then he'll have a fine fantasy week. If that doesn't happen, it's going to be two bad weeks. However, if you are on the other side that you're like, I'm going to believe in the talent, you wait those two weeks. Buy him. And then you trade for him because after that, Seattle, Vegas.

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Philadelphia multiple times, Dallas multiple times. The schedule does open up, and I think over the stretch of weeks 12 through 17, Antonio Gibson will be a fine running back to play. I lead on Jason's sentiment. I put action to that. I mean, I traded him away for Damien Harris. You have a player that is either in a two- or three-person time share with an injury risk who isn't playing good football.

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I want to be clear about that. I saw a metric recently about players who are getting more or less than the expected yardage on the plays called. He was dead last. So there's an element of, you know, if you want to make the excuse for him, make the excuse that maybe it's an injured Antonio Gibson trying to make plays. But when you limit the amount of touches a player gets, you limit the touchdown opportunities, you put in other players in the backfield. You have an offense that's not good.

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This is, the odds are long that you're going to be happy. And so that's where I reside in. Let's put it to test, to the test. YouTube question from Jared. Antonio Gibson for Giovante Williams. Would you do that trade? Oh, that's interesting. I think I would. Yes. I think I would do that trade. That makes three of us. I still see a huge upside potential for the second half the season for Giovante. Would you trade Antonio Gibson to, uh,

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And lock it. So Gibson and Lockett together for Zeke, this question from Instagram. Absolutely. Yeah, that's a no-brainer. Yeah, I would do it. Twitter. Cody wants to know, do I trade Antonio Gibson for David Montgomery straight up. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, obviously you're going to be without Montgomery this week. He's on by. But I would still, I would do that knowing. He looked really good. He looked great and he was back to, you know.

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85% of the snaps. It wasn't a ton of opportunities because they couldn't, but he just, he was the dude against a tough run defense. And it was before the buy. I mean, you know what I mean? Like they said he's fully healthy. Right. We're not worried about limiting him at all. And now he gets another week of rest. So yeah, I really like David Montgomery going forward. Mike, I'll turn to you here with the number two most mentioned player in trade talks. Aaron Jones running back for the Green Bay Packers. Trade four, tradeaway, hold player.

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People are worried about Aaron Jones. They see the, you know, the utilization, the fact that A.J. Dillon's involved. And, you know, they want to know if they should kind of move forward or cash in or where are you right now sentiment-wise on Aaron Jones? I, like, my instinct on Aaron Jones is honestly to.

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to try and block out the noise of the last couple weeks for the Green Bay Packers and go trade for him. It's been a wild ride. I know he ended up as like the RB5, but even in that week it was like inefficient. It was just an abundance of volume because they had no wide receivers and they were not supposed to win this game, which.

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they end up winning. Then it's against Kansas City. You have Jordan Love, who looks like an absolute disaster. Then you have Aaron Rogers out in the making all sorts of headlines for his interview on the Pat McCaffrey show. But Rogers is, Rogers will be back. There's a chance he's not back this weekend. But he is going to come back and they're going to make a playoff on. Aaron Jones, for everything that has gone on for the ups and downs.

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Is the running back eight on the year? He has been far more helpful than detrimental to your fantasy football team. I think there's just a mid-season holding of the breath right now of starting to worry because you've got to get that team prepared for the playoffs. And Aaron Jones is the type of running back that despite A.J. Dillon being worked in more, I still want Aaron Jones as a focal piece, as it wanted my...

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top two running backs that I could start in the playoffs. I agree that I would be trading for Aaron Jones. He's always been a player that has had disappearing games where it just doesn't go his way and then he comes back and blows up for three touchdowns or is super involved in the passing game for a week or two. Where are you? I am in agreement. I worry about the touches that AJ Dylan is getting a little bit and it nerves.

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you know, those monster games from him a little bit. But that doesn't matter. He's better than most running backs in the NFL. He's better than most other options you have for fantasy football. So just because he's not what he can max out to be does not mean he is not a very, very valuable commodity in fantasy football being the most talented running back on one of the better offenses.

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for a team that's going to win the majority of their games, be up, be running the clock out, get up by scoring touchdowns. So I agree. Aaron Jones is a trade for target, especially off of the horrific game where it's easy to forget, like, okay, Rogers wasn't a part of that. You just kind of look at what have you done for me lately. He had two targets. He didn't catch either of them. Like, if he last year or last week's stat line was 14 opportunities.

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He was 12 for 53 on the ground. That's fine. That's acceptable. But when you catch no passes with that, it makes the week feel like a just, it's a complete turd for fantasy football. And if Rogers was throwing that ball, he's catching at least one of those targets, probably both of them. The last two weeks have not been predictive with injuries to Devante Adams and the receiving court for one week and then no Aaron Rogers. I wanted to glance back at.

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You know, since week four, A.J. Dillon's averaging 10 attempts per game. Sure. I went and looked at like Jamal Williams and the involvement when they were there together. And it looked like he was around 7 to 8. So there's not a huge disparity in utilization there between Aaron Jones. And it feels a lot. Like I brought it up the other day. Like the Camara Ingram or Camara and Tony, Tony Brooks, James Jones, Jr. Or Camara and Latavius Murray, like they want to.

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use him and not use him in the way that you would use a Derek Henry or a Zeke or somebody like that. Aaron Jones threw nine games. Now I know he has receiving touchdowns as well, but through nine games has three rushing touchdowns. And he's still the running back eight. Like this, that is, that is not the Aaron Jones that we have seen for three straight years. I think that the positive touchdown regression is coming on the ground. So let's look at some of the questions regarding Aaron Jones. YouTube question.

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We kind of answered this one. I'm seven and two. I'm really worried about Aaron Jones. I'm solid at running back. And even if I trade him for a wide receiver, I just don't know what to do because of Dylan. We answered that. What about Aaron Jones for Tyreek Hill? Which side do you like on that trade? Instagram question from Sam. It's fair. They're both great at their respective positions. In a vacuum, I would rather have Tyree Kill.

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but this is team dependent. You don't want to trade away a running back if it's going to leave you scrambling and out of depth. So look at your team if it makes sense. If you've got the depth of running back, sure, grab Tyree. What about, you know, we talked about the rumors with Beckham and maybe by the time you're listening to this, he already has a home and this is stupid. But do you look at Devante Adams or Tyree killed differently at all with the potential addition and the targets?

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that Odell Beckham will come into on those teams. I don't really. I mean, to say that he wouldn't come in and take two or three targets away from the incumbent, he will. But I don't think that that is enough to really move the needle for those guys who are at, they're at the top of the mountain. So you take, you know, you take a step down from the peak and you're still at the top of the mountain. So I'm not, I'm not.

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