Fantasy Football - WR Rankings Countdown: 20-11 + Risky Picks - Podcast for 8/7

You've got to be in shape. So just pretty much all the tenets of prison. Yeah, yeah. And they don't let you leave. But you pay. You pay monthly to be there. Yeah. Yeah, in cigarettes. Try getting out of that subscription. Impossible. Impossible. Okay. So moving on. If he's healthy, which we'll have better clarity as we get closer to the season, it is worth remembering how good he has been on the field for fantasy football. He's been a dominator. Even though.

It is a product of a system. You know, he's not just your prototypical great Justin Jefferson. What an amazing wide receiver. Yeah, I mean, he has been great for fantasy. Yeah, the wild thing is, like, I know Cyrus Allen is getting like a week and a half of pub as a rookie. Yeah. But the thing about the chiefs is that the reason that they can stick a little bit is you look at the receiver room and you're like, put these guys in order. Like Rashi's obviously at the top. Then you're taught, is you Thornton?

I mean, or there's room for a player like Cyrus Allen to come in and have an impact if you're tied into 37 and your starting wide receiver is coming out of jail slash injury. There is room. And so if Rashi is healthy, there should be target share. They really are going in on Mahomes. Like all the improvements of the team were just, we're like, we're going to make our defense the best our defense can possibly be.

You're like, well, what about an offensive weapon? Canis Walker, baby. Yeah. Look, I'm sure I'm higher than you on him. That's all I know. That is not possible. We're checking that. There is no way. I'm pretty sure. I have them at two. No, I'm just kidding. You win. You win. I got him at eight, Mike. Where do you have them? Six. Okay, we did it. Malik neighbors at 12 guys. I was going to say I'll eat my hat, but then I got worried about eating my hat. Right. You might have had to.

Malik Neighbors. Mike, you're the highest on the league games. Yeah, yeah, there we go. I am not as convinced as you. The man coming off a destroyed knee. I feel like we spent months and months and months talking about how it might be a slow start from Malik Neighbors, and then you guys saw like one or out and both jacked them up your rankings. I am slower to come around on Malik Neighbors because I think these rankings are based on total season stats. The reports out of Giants camp is the offense has not looked good. We did get a report this morning.

Maybe worth mentioning Malachi Fields, maybe in play for the wide receiver 2 spot. But, you know, this is going to be an offense where Jackson Dart is going to have to adjust to being under center more. I don't know if it's going to play to his strengths as much, but I'm also the lowest, I think, on Jackson Dart of the three of us. So we all know the potential of Malik neighbors is Jamar Chase Lovels.

So you guys might think 11 and 12 is tempering your expectations. It is. It very much is. I think he gets off to a slow start statistically. Thankfully, the matchups in the beginning of the year, three of his first four weeks is Dallas, Tennessee, and Arizona. So, you know, you might be able to just find a broken piece of coverage and house something while you're trying to get to your true explosive self. But yeah, I mean, this is a guy where I think if he wasn't coming off of an ACL.

he'd be top five. You'd be picking him at the top five. He's easily a first round wide receiver. Yeah, so. Just a couple guys that like Matt Nagy over here. That is my, so I love. Kyle, Kyle's saying the, even the beat reporters are poo-pooing Matt Nagy. The Giants offensive reports. I wonder why. He sucks. I want to be so in on Jackson Dart. I want to like, like, you are moving. Matt Nagy is the reason. If anything, Cliff Kingsbury. Oh, dude.

Matt Nagy is, he is not good at his very high-paying job. Well, don't worry. Jackson Dart and the Giants offense has scuffled early, but John Harbaugh isn't worried. Okay. And he's, because of the speeches, he's going to give to get him motivated. Dude. And he. The Harbaas are having a tough off season, by the way. Between the. With the talking? With the talking with the mouths. Between the uninspiring speech by John and the incompetent answer.

It's not incompetent. It was, it was, I left my, like, my phone flashlight on. I don't know where I am. It was a full brain reset. You know, if you haven't seen it, look for the clip between him and, um, Colin Cowher. Did you hear like the windows sound? Yeah, it was, it was, it was, boom, yeah, for sure. It was like, in the middle of talking about how things evolve. That's pretty good. He's like, how things evolve.

Evolvment? Is evolve a word? Is evolvement a word? Hey, we were there with the word many. Colin Coward's face was so funny. Yeah, he didn't know what to do, but anyways. Matt Nagy sucks. Let's not bury the lead here. Matt Nagy is the worst. I just love you are exactly where I was like a couple months ago of just in the anger stage. It's so of the hiring that he gets a job. Because I was so.

My chips were all in on dart and the offense of the Giants, and then they bring Matt Nagy in, and it really brings it down. We got the worst season from Lamar in a while last year, even in his healthy games, under Harbaugh, with an offensive coordinator we like. I do have my fears. This is a tough division to play in. I know that they're the surprise team everybody wants to believe in.

I just think I want my eyeballs to see it a little bit. And there's so many great wide receivers to take. Sure. Like the reason Jason traded from a league neighbors in League of Record wasn't for this year. Now, maybe he gets this year. But I think there are a couple teams that I think are a year out. I'm in that camp with the Saints. You guys are all in this year. I think I'm a year away from that. I'm a year away from the Giants being that team. Yeah, because they'll have a new OC. I think they will have a new OC. Which means that they will struggle this year. If, if.

The thing for neighbors that I'm okay with is the price is right now on Sleeper. He's going in the beginning of the fourth. We did our mock draft. It's just not a true thing. Well, we did our mock draft yesterday and I got him halfway through the third. And it's if you know that Malik Neighbors is a target, you know, I started running back, running back. So I knew that that was taken care of.

And then I can take Malik neighbors and I can have enough guys at the wide receiver position to overcome and let it happen. Maybe you don't even play Malik Neighbors week one. That sounds crazy for a third or fourth round pick. But I think that over the course of the second half of the year, if you can tread the water, then things become great. Like most people are like, you know what I'm going to do with Malik? I'm going to let someone else draft him and then.

When they're really struggling, I'm going to go trade for neighbors. I'm sure there's plenty of leagues that will work in. But I think there's also plenty of leagues that you'll get Malik. And then by the end of the year, you have a first round talent fantasy football pick that really takes your team to the next level. Chris Olavet 11, the last name we're going to talk about today, guys, got paid this off season. Jordan Tyson, Tyler Shuck, Travis A. Chan, Jr.

Joanne Johnson and company, Kellan Moore, trying to get this offense on track after a disappointing year that saw a mix of Spencer Rattler and Tyler Shuck on the back half of it. But throughout the entirety of the year, Chrysalave was a monster. And talk about, you know, the flowers touchdowns. Here's touchdowns for Crystal Lave. Four, five, one. Nine. Yeah, but you didn't have Lamar throwing it to him for those. But I'm saying, like, touchdowns.

Like, but I said, the thing with Lamar is the variable was the offense changed, and McBride was the quarterback changed. One change comes in, and you're like, oh, that player is a thousand-yard receiver, he should have more touchdowns. And Chris Olava got him last year. Well, let me ask you this real quick, because we talked about these guys, same draft class, same age. Olava, Garrett Wilson, and Dynasty, where are you with that question? I, oh, man, that's really tough. I think I'm on the Garrett Wilson side.

solely and only, again, it is the concussion thing. I'm all the way on the Olave side now. I think Olave is a better player. I think the quarterback is a better player. Again, it is just the concussion worry for me. As someone who's had them on my roster and felt at times like... I thought you meant you had concussions. Oh, for sure. Yeah, for sure in my past. Falling, falling off of the swing set? Just falling down. Monkey bars, maybe? Dude, I crush monkey bars. Don't you worry about that? Oh, you don't want me bring that up, Mike?

I want to know what the public thinks. You can bring it up. I want you to post a poll right now. We have more producers in the office, though. We can talk to now. I'll post a poll, but I think I could do monkey bars. Like from one side to the other, like no problem. I can swing across a monkey bar set. Al, are you confident in your monkey bar capabilities? I'm confident that I could not do that. Okay. I don't understand. So Al realizes he can't. This has been a debate.

This is a man who's been humbled by the monkey bars. Jason is so confident. You're as confident in the monkey bars as landing a 747. Yeah, with someone in my ear, but yes, I could do either. We can even do radio in the ear on the monkey bars. You won't be able to do it. Now swing to the lift. It's not just upper body. It's also a grip strength. Matt, you are the size of a child. Of course they're easy for you. You're in your 20s. When's the last time you did monkey bars, Matt?

It's been a while, but I'm pretty confident I could do them. Well, Josh, what do you think about that? I think Matt could probably do it. Jason, no way. You're right. There is no way I couldn't do it. You are correct. There are different challenges we can put on the internet, and this is one of them. Yeah, well, I'd crush them. Anyways, back to Olave. Like, physically, I...

I just pull them down. I get on the monkey bars that just start sinking into the sand. Is this quicksand or what? You're just standing like, this is so easy. Yeah, just walking across the sand. What did you write down on your board there? Okay, what I wrote down was, so Alave had a great season. Alave finished as the wide receiver six on the course of the season, and he was good both with Rattler and with Shuck. However, he was significantly better with Shuck.

Here's the splits. With Rattler, he was on pace for 110 receptions, 1,000 yards, and six touchdowns. That's good. That's pretty darn good. That's 11.5 fantasy points. But once he got Shuck, and keep in mind, this was Rookie Shuck, who started slow, the course of all of the starts with Shuck, he would have had a 17-game pace of 102 receptions, 1,400 yards, and 12.8 touchdowns, 15.8 fantasy points. That's easily top five fantasy wide receiver and half point.

So it's exciting to get that quarterback in tow, which is why, Andy, I don't blame you for saying you're significantly on the Olavis side in the dynasty. I don't think he's going to, you know, the target share is going to be different this year. Yeah. You got to remember last year. It was super juiced at the end. Well, it was, they traded Rashid Jihad. They're their only other target halfway through the year. How dare you, Velae. Well, but then, like I said, then Velae got hurt. Like, Velae was actually.

becoming a thing there. So adding Jordan Tyson, you know, what you're hoped for is that he stays efficient, scoring touchdowns, the target share stays high, but you are going to need to spread the rock ground a little bit and can Shuck be, you know, you got to figure out if Shuck is in the 3,500 or the 4,500 yard category because that makes a huge difference on supporting two wide receivers. Burrow can do it because, you know, this is what you just brought up with Caleb Williams.

It's like if Caleb Williams, you just said, if he throws for under 4,000, you're going to have a problem with the Odun's a burden, Loveland combination. I am more confident that Shuck has more passing yards than Caleb this year. Like that are the books. Yeah, I mean, the books projected that way in Vegas. And it makes sense with the defense, the pace of play, the running game for both teams. I think that the passing volume will be larger. Last year, the usage splits, the target percentages.

were the same 30% the first eight weeks, 30% the last. That's what I was going to ask. Does Olave, with the addition of a top 10 NFL drafted wide receiver, does Olave stay at 30%? No, no, he does not. There's no way he's going to have, with Jordan Tyson on the field, I can't put him at a 30% target share. I have him at a 24.5% target share this year. It is a major dip, but that's still 140 targets. There's going to be a lot of volume on this team.

They also didn't have a running game and they tried to bring that in this offseason with the signing of Travis H.N. Jr. Well, I don't know if they have a running game still. Well, it's a huge investment by the team. It is. In saying we want to balance this offense out a little bit. So we'll see what happens. But we're going to count down the top 10 running backs or sorry, wide receivers. On the Monday show, we'll move into running back rankings. Find out who Mike actually likes. Yes.

I think maybe I just don't like anyone. I think you're the lowest on all players. That was funny. That was good. All right, we'll be back. It's just not possible. I don't know how it happened. No. But as I said, say, flowers for the win, guys. Goodbye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on join thefoot.com. And follow us on Twitter at the FF ballers.