Fantasy Football - WR Rankings Countdown: 20-11 + Risky Picks - Podcast for 8/7

Uh, you don't know what it is? I thought it was Carson Ben. Hey, Chan. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Mike. You're laughing at yourself. No, no, no. No, I am not. I am laughing upon the, like, we've taken a lot of heat. And it's not just like, hey, guys, it's confusing. It's, it is a barrage of insults. People are like, I'm never listening to this show again, unless you start calling a METN. It's like.

Dude, chill out. We're trying to figure out what the right thing is to respect this man. Yeah, we want to call him ETN. It would be so much easier. Because A-chan is the name of another player at the same position. But last night, that's all I'm saying. Last night, Carolina, at the running back position, his brother, Trevor A-chan.

is what they said on the broadcast. That's what they want to be called. And they went through. At least with Travis, we get a junior on it and we can make it easier for everyone. I'm trying to get Rumbleaya going, I'm doing my best, but we're not going to call him the wrong name. Yeah, it does look like the broadcast teams will be calling Travis and Trevor A-Cham. And it will be okay. We will get six weeks into the season and everything will be just fine. We'll be used to it. Yeah. We'll be bemoaning.

I just, Travis A-Chain Jr. We were just early. And that's what feels bad. Because we were trying to, trying to respect it. I'm just saying the, like, the vitriol, which was so weird. Well, I mean, yeah, I mean. In your face. Oh, okay, Mike. All right. No, man. Let's keep him on our team. Jamir Gibbs, three-year, $67 million extension.

So I added on yesterday's show as a matter of moments. And it happened. And he gets, what, 500K more than. Yeah, he got slightly. That's in Bejohn. That's what we said is like, do you want to be the first? Because if you're the first, you set the line. And then the next guy's going to go give me just a little bit more than that. The two should have gotten together and been like, all right, you, whoever signs it first will split the difference between what I get above and we'll just get them. Get them both done like a chopped pot.

Jalen Knoll coming off the NFI list. Jalenol's got a uphill climb. You've got Tank Dell and Jaden Higgins and Xavier Hutchinson and, yeah, Jalen Knoll's probably not going to be relevant. Jaden Higgins has been getting a lot of positive buzz in camp. So it's a name to pay attention to with Chris. You're two wide receiver for the Texans. I did watch this. We're talking about Alec Pierce and the return from left ankle surgery. I watched, like it's being reported that Shane Stuyken says there's no timetable.

I watched the press conference. This is getting blown out of proportion, in my opinion, because all they did was say, is there any update to the timetable? And he said, no, no update. He's doing great. He's working out. He's doing a hell of a job in his rehab process. And you wouldn't even believe he said he's excited. So then this is.

great reporting for you, Andy. Because you're in on Alec Pierce this year. I mean, this isn't not great. I'd rather have him give a time table that says tomorrow. I'm saying great because this will push his ADP down. People will be more and more afraid. And if you're watching past the headline and you see that it's really no different than what we already knew was happening. That's how I'm interpreting it. Now, I don't, I don't like that. I mean, it's just a weird situation when you have, and we've had this before. I mean, Godwin. Godwin is a perfect example of this. Godwin had a major injury.

Then signed a major contract extension. They had to come back from injury. Alec Pierce, just to be under. Wasn't that good. Just so you understand, he was paid. Like 86 million guaranteed. He's 27, 28 million a year as a wide receiver. That is, and then they said goodbye Michael Pittman. So that's their level of belief. Now, they can't control outcomes of rehabbing and surgery and things like that or setbacks if those happen. All this to say, it's August 7th. We are a month.

We're more than a month away from the kickoff of the NFL season and even further from the Sunday in which the Colts play, I'm not going to panic today. But if in three weeks from now, Alec Pierce has not been running around at training camp, I will then be worried. But I'm giving it a three-week timer right now because he's the bona fide guaranteed number one of this wide receiver room. Now, don't you think that if he gets back for the first time in three weeks that he will be starting slow? I don't know.

I don't know if he'll be starting slow because you're still going to have almost two weeks to get back into shape. We'll see. I mean, you don't go two weeks? Okay, yeah, I do. I do. I think he needs at least a two week ramp up. Yeah, yeah, that's fine. Jalen Waddle, a strain will return in four to five days. He's fine. He's used to this. Walking with a limp, that is the Waddle walk. I mean, that is what he does. How do they not say he was walking with a wattle? Yeah, they said walking with a limp.

They didn't say he was waddling around, which he was. Wouldn't you be waddling with a limp? At the very least, yeah, that's fine. He's waddling with a wattle. Romeo Dobbs did not practice on Wednesday or Thursday. They think it's not serious. Yeah, that doesn't sound serious. The Patriots wide receiver room is fascinating if you've been following what's going on with the training camp because the offseason was Kishon Booty, who was a very solid player for them, a deep threat last year.

He felt like the odd man out. Like he was... Well, I mean, he didn't just feel like it. He requested a trade. He continues to... He's asking for one now. He was not showing up to some voluntary stuff and talks of a trade. But all the reporting is like, Kashan Bouti is one of the best wide receivers for the Patriots this entire training camp process. So it's like who is actually going to be playing for this? Because you're...

Demerio Douglas is going to get a lot of snaps because digs with short area targets. That's the question. Because you have AJ Brown's a lock. Romeo Dobbs would be insane if you gave him that amount of money and then he's not your two. So then it's the three. Well then, but should you put, are you putting Dobbs in the slot then and putting Booty on the outside? Because you have Douglas who is a great slot. Well, and Booty's requested a trade, right?

Because it feels like he doesn't have a real opportunity. A lot of people have assumed he would be traded. I'm surprised he's still a Patriot. Maybe they're waiting for a higher price. But there's some teams out there that could, you telling me the Chiefs aren't better with Booty? Sure. But yeah, well. We're all better with Boone. Bouté. Yeah, I mean, DeMario Douglas, I mean, he only played, I mean, Pop Douglas played like 27% of snaps last year.

And his reports in the preseason have been great, but he's a limited player. It's mysterious what's going on up there. And you've got Matt Collins. Don't forget about the barefoot merchant. Dude, Matt Collins rules. All right. We'll take a break here and we're going to jump into wide receiver rankings. It should be fun. We've got a couple shows for wide receivers. Countdown 20 through 11. What's up, Foot Clan? You are confident and disciplined and focused on details, just like everyone here at the fancy footballers, right? Those are words you used to describe us. In other words,

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is limited if it takes some time to get going. It's all the more reason to spend an early pick on Josh Downs and give him a shot because somebody has to catch the ball there. He's going to get more opportunities. Whether he's going to be good enough on the outside is TBD, but he's still going to be on the field. And behind him, it's Ashton Doolin, which has been the case for a while, which, you know, that's part of the reason I'm not sure about Downs being great on the outside. It's like, why weren't you taking snaps from him before?

You had Pittman in the slot. So, yeah. Wide receiver rankings countdown, let's do it. Here's some numbers for you. What makes a wide receiver too? We're looking at 20 through 11 today. Over the last decade among 110 wide receivers finishing in this range, 84% of them average seven or more targets per game. Seven or more is a big number. 77% had 1,000 or more receiving yards. And 75% had six or more receiving touchdowns.

When did we switch to 17 games, by the way? Can we officially remember that day? No, we cannot officially remember that date. No one. But in a 17-game season, seven targets a game would be 119 targets. 20-21. Okay, so we've had half a decade. This is... I just think it's funny when you're like 77% of had 1,000 or more receiving yards, but you got an extra game for half of them. So an extra opportunity to do it. Those thresholds, nobody's adjusted properly. Yeah, but numbers are... I mean, when it gets to 18,

Are you just going to keep saying that he's a thousand-yard receiver? Sure, we haven't done that. But also production has been down. We've talked about that globally. T. Higgins comes in at number 20, guys. That feels like a real floor situation for T. Higgins. And we all have them ranked there. I think just because we like the upside of a lot of other players. I mean, classic situation, Jason. You and I have them higher than Mike. Yeah. Look, we...

We love T. Higgins here. You and I do, yeah. Go on. Being drafted as the wide receiver 14. That's fine. You've released me. Why are we all below ADP? I think the reason where below ADP is because where T. Higgins scores his fantasy points in recent memory is touchdowns. Like he was on pace for 12 and a half touchdowns. And he can absolutely 100% replicate that.

but we can't project him right for 12 and a half touchdown so like i have him projected for nine touchdowns which i have him at 8.2 yeah and so when you do that when you project kind of a a good median outcome it's going to it's going to hurt him um whenever there's a guy who is really touchdown heavy on where the fantasy points come from they'll usually be a little lower in like linear rankings

21 receiving touchdowns over the last two years. Yeah, only chase on Ron Adams have more than that. Wow. It's just touchdowns aren't a sticky stat. I mean, but they are for a few, a few people. You always have an injury concern with T. Higgins, no question. It's been a problem. Anytime a player has a narrative that involves him running up a hill at practice, you know, injuries have been part of his story.

Yeah, I mean, this is. It's also factual information. Yeah. When I look at last year, I'm like, thank goodness we finally got a full season out of T. Higgins. He still missed two games and was injured. But it feels great. That's a full season for him. That's a full season. That's a full season. 15 games is a full season for T. Higgins. If you tell me T. Higgins gets a thousand yards, I'll be like, wow. Yeah, because per game. In 12 games, he got a thousand? They, I mean, they're in some of the highest over-under games of the season. I mean, the.