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Week 8 Studs & Stinkers + Weekly Rewind, Angels in the Endzone

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Because you can't. Is it worth holding him just in the event that Camara goes down and you know you have a top five guy? It could be, but they're going into the bye week talking about the Saints. So he can't play for you next week. Alvin Camara, the way they were talking about his injury, they were saying if this were the playoffs, he'd be it. So it was just them looking at the schedule and the by week coming up saying, well, let's get Camara two weeks of rest. So I would try if you try to trade him to the Camara owner.

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saying look how valuable Latavius Murray is to your team. If Camara goes down, you're going to want to have Murray. So I would prefer to go get that value, then hold on to him and see if Camara is right because I think Camara will be back. All right. Cook McCaffrey, Barclay, the big guys that did big things this week. Let's talk about David Mopportunity. His breakout performance, 27 carries.

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135 yards on the ground and a touchdown. Oh, the overcorrection. That's coming? No, that happened. Of Matt Nagy, having him touched the ball at like five times last week. I mean, what happens, the situation you were in with David Montgomery before was that the touches were so limited that you just lowered the probability of a big play. And if you got a game without a big play,

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You're done. I mean, you get eight points, three points. You know, last week was the nightmare. Now, Jason, you said it on the show last week. You said it on the series XM show, specifically second half MVP candidates. David Montgomery was in that category for you. And that was a risky thing to say after a two-carry week. Yeah. I mean, you knew there was going to be an overcorrection as far as carry count goes. Obviously, they ended up losing the game, which they should not have, but they did.

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But yeah, I mean, David Montgomery is going to be involved far more of the second half of the season than he was the first half. And if you want to find somebody to hang out with today, Jay. Yeah. Matt Nagy would be the guy that you could hang with. Oh, man. I don't think I want to know about anybody more dead inside right now than you. I think Matt Nagy's the one. But I haven't made, like that's not fair. Because you feel like he made his own grave, dug his own grave. He made his grave. He did.

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I've, I've, my guys have been great. My team's been awesome. Not like he rolled around in the, not awesome enough. Yes, I agree. He's rolling around in the Ebola and he's like, wait a minute. What? How do I get this Ebola? I don't recommend that. I think that's a bad. I don't either. And so, yes, make good decisions. Don't, don't be a naggy. Philadelphia, Detroit, the Rams. Those are not.

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ideal matchups, I think, for Montgomery. But if he gets that kind of work, it's going to be flex-worthy. Miles Sanders, Jordan Howard. Howard has a real opportunity here. Yeah. Going up against Chicago, then the buy week. But if Miles Sanders misses the week, he could be alone in that backfield, him in Boston Scott. Oh, is this a revenge game, too? Yeah. Dun-dun. Oh, revenge against Nagy, too. Yes. Take that. Trade me away. And, yeah, I think it'll be.

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Pretty nice for Jordan Howard next week against Chicago at home. I do feel the need to apologize a little bit to Matt Nagy. He is not without blame. But like, I don't know what I would do if Mitch Trubisky was my quarterback. I don't know what I would do. I would do this. I would give David Montgomery the ball 27 times. Once again. And just crossed my fingers. David, Mr. Trubisky, atrocious, managed to lead another comeback drive down the field.

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And then Matt Nagy chose to take a knee and let his kicker. That's true. And then defended it in the press conference with some real vitriol about how it wasn't even a consideration to run the ball there. Well, then you're an idiot. Okay. I take everything back. That's what I'm trying to say. They're both. This is a match made in heaven. You two deserve each other. Mitchell and Mitchell and Matt. Mitchell and Maggie. That's right. All right.

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Wide receivers. Wide receivers. Mike Evans, another monster game. 11 for 198 and 2. Cooper Cup is ridiculous. 7 for 220 and 1. 220 yards. And he could have had another 100 if they needed it. Yes. Kenny Galladay. Ooh, he was so smooth. Busting out them smooth routes. Star of the week.

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Julian Edelman, two touchdowns, Michael Thomas is Michael Thomas. Patrick Peterson couldn't do anything to stop him. Yeah, it was, man, some people on Twitter were breaking down the defense that Patrick Peterson was being asked to play against Michael Thomas. It was not Patrick Peterson's fault. Yeah, he wasn't one-on-one on him very often. And he was always giving him cushion. That's a tale for another podcast. All right. Julio and Hopkins, they both got it done without a touchdown. It's nice to see these.

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The big name guys. Mike Evans, Cooper Cup, Julio, Hopkins, the guys that you expect big games from. There's been so many weeks where they've just crapped all over your team. It's so nice. And same with running backs. You know, the Seek-on-Zeks. This was a nice week for all of the real studly players. The chalk. Yeah. The chalk kind of worked. Tyra Williams, when he plays, seems to score touchdowns. He was three-for-91 in a touchdown. He's back. DJ Chark, here to stay. Six-for-79 in a touchdown.

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Chris Conley. I want to bring him up. Four for 103 and 1 on seven targets. A couple of weeks in a row where he's had some big plays. If D.D. Westbrook misses time, are you flexing Conley into lineups? It's tough because I wasn't really flexing D.D. into the lineup. I mean, in a pinch, you could. Obviously, the last two weeks. Well, that's a really good matchup. Maybe on a one week basis, you could look that way. Gardner's been very steady.

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top 12 quarterback, two weeks in a row for fantasy. And Chris Conley is a, you know, if you're not familiar with him, he's an athletic freak. Yeah. So he topped 21 miles an hour on that touchdown down the sideline. D.K. Metcalfe, two touchdowns on three catches for 13 yards. But that's what you get with a beast of a man. Start of the week. Ryan Griffin and Darren Fells, two touchdowns each. I like how Brooks put in the show doc. Chris.

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Ryan Griffin, I mean. Yeah, I was tilting. Very, very much watching the Ryan Griffin's success. Does it make you feel confident in Herndon when he returns? I already was confident in Herndon when he returns, but this is great. I mean, we've talked about how Ryan Griffin has been out on the field. He's been running the routes. He's just Ryan Griffin. But this game apparently, he was like, I'm not Ryan Griffin. I can knee a guy in the face when I go out for a touchdown. If you have not seen the Griffin. I haven't seen what you're talking about.

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He does a full flying jump knee. Like right as he's going in the end zone, the guy goes to tackle him. It's almost like one of those hurdles that turn into like the kick like Antonio Brown had a while back. Darren Fells, interested moving forward. He's a couple weeks now where he's been. You can stream him in a pinch, but his floor is zero. Yes, his floor is absolutely zero, but this is his third game with a touchdown, his second game with multiple touchdown. So at least you know.

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The upside can't exist. Will Fuller's out. I mean, for a period of time and stills didn't get the targets that you might have hoped. Jonas Smith, six for 78 and a touchdown. Jason's start of the week. Yeah. Seven targets. He's great without Walker. I mean, in the games, you know, after his rookie season, when he doesn't have Walker, he's been pretty much a top. No, no, no. Yes. No. Last year, Walker was out the entire year and Johnny Smith gave you like,

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Two or three games that mattered. Well, he gave you six, his first six games were all top 12 at tight end when Delaney Walker was out. There's a lot of reasons, though, last year. I mean, people expected breakout last season. All I'm saying, I'm not saying you can't start him, but he disappeared. I like him with Tanna Hill. Last year you had a Mario, he had a Mario. And he's 24 years old, and, you know, he was drafted to be, like when he was coming out, I love Jonah Smith. And I thought the future he'll be, he'll be bright. We always.

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forget, you know, with these Gerald Everett's and Joe Smith, like, tight-ins take several years to develop and come into their own. And very often it can, you can just be sitting there watching the paint dry and just nothing, nothing, nothing. Then just one game, something clicks and now they're a pass-catching weapon. The nice thing about Joni Smith is his speed and athleticism and the ability to make.

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Like he's a yardage guy. You go play Cameron Brayt. You have to get a touchdown or you're dead. It's one of the reasons why I went Joni over break this week is I figured if Joni doesn't score, you might get the other part of this line. Six for 78. That would make you happy all by itself. It's like a George Kittle. Yes. Travis Kelsey. Like they're hard to tackle. You get them the ball and they're probably getting another 10 or 12 yards on every reception. Austin Hooper doing Hooper things.

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You know, Austin Hooper was great. Julio Jones was great with Matt Shaw. Yeah. All the fears of Matt Schaub starting assuaged. Tyler Eifford, six for 74 on nine targets. Just a... He got injured. He did. Come on. It was a very Tyler Eifert. His best days are behind him. Yeah. All right. Let's move on. Stinkers of the week. Presented by Odor Eaters.

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What's happening with Kyla Murray, Mike? You've got two weeks in a row where Larry Fitzgerald's barely involved in the offense. Cardinals had the great matchup against New York last week. He did nothing. Zero touchdowns in the last eight quarters. What do fantasy owners do with Kyla Murray? You, man, at this point, you have to at least panic a little bit because two of the next three weeks, San Francisco. And the San Francisco defense is fully legit. They are a great team. Now, he gets...

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The Tampa Bay Buccaneers sandwiched there. It's a delicious sandwich. It just doesn't have the right bread. It's like rye bread. It's terrible. Ruined sandwiches. You've publicly proclaimed your hatred of rye bread. Well, I don't understand why people like it. But what's your favorite meat? Ooh. I don't know. It's like a pastrami. Like a good pastrami. Oh, so this is a pastrami on rye. Yeah. Okay. This is a, this is a terrible situation. And you're keto. So you would just take the rye, throw them away and eat that pastrami. That is 100% correct. That's what Kyler Murray is.

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That's what I was going to ask you if you were fed that, like handed that sandwich, you would actually just peel the pastrami off of it? Yes, 100%. So that's what you should do here? Yes. And you're going to be streaming next week. Then you can play Kyler and then you'll want to stream again. Man. Now, is it worth, we got to ask because I think people are going to face this decision themselves. Is it worth dropping him? Because I want to hold him. But over the next month, you're...

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You're presuming that there's only one game that you really want to start him, which is not this coming week, but the following week at Tampa Bay, the sandwich of the two San Francisco games, and then it's the buy week. So do you hold on to him for the hope that, you know, after the buy, you've got the Rams, you've got the Steelers, not good? No, you don't. And here's the problem. One of the big differences over the last two weeks is no David Johnson. David Johnson represented a lot of yardage for Kyla Murray.

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Dump off passes. You're underestimating how large the Grand Canyon is. You're trying that one out. You're trying that offer size. King and Drake in Arizona. No, no, no. We certainly understand. The grand. We need to make sure that the national audience understands. So the Grand Canyon. Well, we'll see. That was a reference to the Grand Canyon. Yes. Maybe he helps Kyler out.

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I highly doubt it. Your point is well taken. The hard part about this is, yes, the Grand Canyon is one of the wonders of the world. Are there seven or eight wonders? I'm looking at the producers. How many wonders are there? I thought it was seven. I think it was seven. Throw up some fingers. Seven one. So, do we lose one? I think there are two different wonders. There's like the. Yeah, there's natural and man made.

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Well, there's ancient and current. Yeah, something like that. Yeah. Okay, regardless. It's incredible. It's beautiful. But it's also a big hole. Like, is that what? Are you comparing fantasy value to a big hole? I'm consistent. I'm, I, Kenyon Drake has been a big hole of fantasy value for quite some time. I still love him. So what better state to go to? We are lost. All right, Lev Bell. What do you make of this?

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hugely disappointing performance. This stat is unbelievable. Since 2000, there have been, since the year 2000, there have been 211. Remember that number. There have been 211 running backs that have averaged 20 plus touches in their team's first seven games. Lev Bell ranks 203rd in fantasy points. I mean, he is not getting it done at all. I would go trade for him on the cheap. That's exactly what I think. If you have him,

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Hold on. Take a bath, take a shower, get the cries out, and then play Levin'Am Bell with this juicy schedule coming up. Do you disagree, Andy? Do you think this is, he's done, he's kaput? No, I don't disagree at all. I would try to acquire him as well. He's averaging 0.48 fantasy points per touch. That is really, really bad. But you haven't played the majority of this season with Sam Darnold.

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