Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Starts of the Week, Week 16 Matchups, Boom-Boom!

But he was so bad. He dropped the touchdown that he normally would get. I would be willing to, I would certainly play him over Reed at this point. But again, that's like... Well, look, last week, we dumped Bilal Powell a little bit. Not all of us, but look, Forte was active and that scared people about Bilal Powell. Right. If Jordan Reed is active, which he probably will be, nonsensically, Jay Gruden.

That might scare people off of Vernon Davis, where Vernon Davis might be an actual better play than a C.J. Fedorowitz or a Dion Sims or Charles Clay or any of those guys. I have the choice right now between Davis or Charles Clay. I have currently decided to go with Charles Clay. And based on what I said earlier, hopefully you have better options. But you see them close? I do. I see those two guys is very close. Okay. Mike, do you have any thoughts? You're the resident Jordan Reed, apologist, owner, all of those things.

Yeah, don't play him. Okay. So, I know you like Rob Kelly. Yeah, I would actually, I would disagree that he had a bad game, at least speaking for fantasy purposes, as he was in our league, had basically 14 and a half points because Rob Kelly is turning into a pass catching machine. It's those sweet hands. You like the nine carries for eight yards? No, but I like.

But I do like the 4-4-47, and he also scored a touchdown. Okay. And you have the Bears who are not a good run defense. They were destroyed by a wide receiver converted to a running back last week. Okay. So, yeah. So what you're saying is when I say he has a bad week, you're saying the silver lining was he really, even though he didn't run well.

He didn't hurt you in fantasy. Correct. He found a way to make a bad game, a good game for fantasy owners. So you've got enough confidence in him. And Carolina's run defense is very good. They were on it. The game script was against Rob Kelly. He still had a good fantasy day. I do like Rob Kelly this week. All right. All right. Well, you love Jordan Howard, no doubt. He's good. Would you play Matt Barkley? I would. I would not. If you're in that streaming situation, I am okay streaming Matt Barkley.

I refuse. Well, look, the Redskins have given up. That's fine. They've given up a completion percentage of 66.2% in the league this year, which is, I think, fourth worst in the entire league. If there's an opportunity for Barclay with weapons, right? Jeffrey, Meredith, Thompson, the weapons are there. And I'll talk about Alshan Jeffrey in a little bit as well. So on the other side, last week, Mike, you were a big D. Jacks fan. Yeah. He had a big game. He had a volume game.

But the game script was a lot of comeback from Kurt Cousins. A lot of yards between the 20s, no touchdowns. Fine starting D. Jacks this week. Yeah, I'm still fine with it. Hopefully the referees can accept the fact that Dijax is an awesome wide receiver. And when he's on the sideline, he makes catches. Those were super impressive. They were really good. Stop making Gruden challenge everything. Honestly, that second challenge, I, I, I, I,

There's no way if I was the ref there that I would have called that a catch in live action because that was impossible. And he got that. That was amazing. And we saw that rule carried into fruition again where it's like Gruden had to challenge them both. Well, you've won both your challenges. So we're going to award you a third challenge as a gift. Fine. We'll let you do it. You can have a third one. You know who I'm starting in most leagues is Pierre Garsohn.

Yes. Pierre Garsohn has quietly been a great second or third wide receiver for fantasy teams. Since the buy in week nine, so basically the entire second half of the year, there's only been one game where he's been in single digits for fantasy points and half point PPR. You're talking about six or seven receptions in four of those six games. He's just been extremely involved in. You saw it last game, right? He didn't get a touchdown.

But he got seven for 78. And if you're in, you know, a PPR or half point, he's getting the volume and he's clearly been involved enough, especially with the absence of Reed. I think Garcon is, if you've got the big guys, if you've got your Odell Beckham and, you know, and you need that flex that's just not going to have two points. I think Carson fits in. Can I ask him a follow up real quick? It's just I want to piggyback on him real quick. Since week 10 in half point PPR.

which is our scoring format. He's been the wide receiver 10 in that time period. I mean, he's getting it done. So you said, Jason, that you'd, if you had a Nodale Beckham Jr., maybe a Mike Evans, a bigger guy. Yeah. You like Garsohn. Would you play him over Taylor Gabriel as your two? Absolutely. So that's the good example, right? That's a perfect example. Over Tyree Kill, over Ted Gin. Yes, Tyree Kill, Ted Gin, Taylor Gabriel, their ceilings are higher than Pierre Garcone.

They can go out and put up 38 because they took two screens 70 yards to the house. But their floors are much lower. And I have a, I have, you know, you need those solid points when you're constructing your roster. So yes, perfect example. We need to move on. Talk Vikings and Packers. The Packers are nearly a touchdown favorites in Green Bay this week. Weather's going to be in the 20s.

We'll monitor that and let you know what's going on. It might affect the passing game if it deteriorates. Over under, 43. What do you think? Yeah, that's with, ha. I got a little jumbled up on boards there. I like it. It's Rogers, you're playing him. It's, there's very, very few quarterbacks who I would play over Rogers this week, despite him being hobbled and despite if.

the weather concerns, you know, with his hamstring and his calf. You can see it while he's playing, but it's not affecting his play. He's still getting it done. Ty Montgomery has, it continues to show his elite levels of skill for football, and he improves that team dramatically. He improves that team. We, however, with Minnesota coming into town, we have Montgomery right now. Somebody asked me on Twitter.

Is your ranking for Time Montgomery this week an error, a problem on your website? Because we have consensus 28. For as a... Right now, that's in wide receivers. So that's the hard part is that you have him eligible in both. So let's talk less about the rank and more about the production levels you can expect against Minnesota this week. It wasn't like Kristen Michael struggled.

He's a great change of pace to Montgomery, a great opportunity for Michael last week, scoring a touchdown. That's really all he did, though. I mean, he had on the week, I think he had around 45 or 46 yards, and that included a 42-yard touchdown. Yeah, it was a good run. It was the time on the show. Yeah, that's what I was just going to say. But what does he do against Minnesota? This game does not have a high over under. Minnesota is a pretty tough defense. Obviously, they have not been as much.

of late, but they only give up 12 points a game on average. Time Out Gummery is a RB what this week? I think Time Montgomery is an RB2, which means in most leagues you're going to be starting him. I think, you know, if, when you look at the rankings between wide receivers and running backs, running backs, once you get past those first.

few guys. They just fall off a cliff. And Ty Montgomery, when he's in your running back position, is even more valuable. There are plenty of wide receivers in those top 20s, which is why you see Ty Montgomery down at 28 for wide receivers. Personally, I think that Montgomery has a fine game. He's going to be the starting running back. He's going to be utilized. I don't expect the touchdown in this game, which just limits his upside for me. He has scored in the last.

Two weeks, obviously, and played well against Seattle. I can see him on that, on the fringe. That's where I have. I have him right on the fringe of low end one, high end two. The Vikings, we're coming off a week where old man strength, Frank Gore, was unstoppable. Went over a hundo. Unstoppable against this vaunted Vikings run defenses. I'm not worried about Montgomery at all.

All right, Devante Adams let everybody down last week. Had a terrible week. Still had massive opportunity. Jordy Nelson, on the other hand, was great again, despite not scoring big yardage. You ranked these Nelson Adams cop. I'll take Nelson. Oh, Cobb is an afterthought. Man, it has changed so much for Randolph. Yeah. They paid him that money.

It's really disappointing. And he's not the same player. Yeah, something's missing from his game, but it's, is Jordan Nelson's must play. And Adams is still a fine play. I know that the Vikings have great corners. So if you're concerned about anyone, it would be, I would lower my Jordy and Devante Adams expectations a little bit, but they're still, I'm playing him. I'm not touching Jordy myself. He's up there for me, but.

You're not moving him down? Yeah, I'm not moving. I'm not moving him. Both my parents are like, sorry, no, I said that horribly. I, I'm not touching, I'm not moving him down. He's my fourth ranked wide receiver. I, we were, I was, my mind was exploding inside. I was, well, I was like, wait, you're not touching Jordy Nelson? I'll, I'll start him. I'll touch him. Wait, what? Okay. All right. We're, all right. Love Jordy Nelson. Devonty Adams, you look, you're playing with fire. You might get burned. You might.

I'm starting Devante Adams. If you didn't watch the game last week, Devante Adams had two touchdowns that were, he just beat his guy, and he laid it right in his hands, and he dropped it on the right side, and then he comes back a different drive, drops it on the left side. You hear you hear first. When you drop it, you're a great wide receiver. No, I'm just saying that the opportunity was there. And it wasn't like he wasn't getting the targets or the red zone work that we were used to. He just had a bad game.

We talked about Adam Thielen, the potential for him in the absence of Diggs. Sorry. I like that call. I think this is a game where they'll be playing from behind. Adrian Peterson, we don't know if he'll play. We'll talk about Kyle Rudolph, and he's been great. He's been targeted 7.7 times per game, which is second among tight ends. He's my second ranked tight end, and we'll talk more about him in the starts. We need to move on, though. Let's talk about the Browns, Chargers.

The Chargers heading into Cleveland. Cleveland has two shots left to save their season. Yeah, save their season by winning a game. RG3 is going to start. I'm not touching a Brown other than Isaiah Crowell. I actually like Isaiah Crowell. I think he's okay this week. I'm not touching another guy. I'm not touching Pryor. Yeah. I'm not touching Coleman. I'm all about touching people this week. Yeah, geez. You're getting very handsy. Hansy, very handy.

Thoughts? I'm with you. I'm okay playing Crowell. I don't personally love it. The chargers are pretty solid against the run ninth when it comes to yardage. I mean, we still kind of have the imprint of they're terrible. They're a terrible run defense. That was the beginning of the season. That was minus Joey Bosa. That one defensive player has really helped turn things around. I mean, it also helps that their corners have been.

tremendous shutting that down so they can focus more on the running game yeah crow hasn't done anything spectacular since week four he's had only a few double digit games since then you know he's he's been okay yeah that's what i mean he has been okay 20th ranked running back and i haven't been 19 this week yeah and san diego's uh for fantasy purposes the 26th best defense which is not the good uh against running backs duke johnson is another name we should at least mention

Um, you know, we, we had, uh, our bet, which is why Andy is eating lunches that I make him eat this week. Yesterday sucked, by the way. Oh, if you didn't see the, the, no, I really suck. You didn't see our, our tweet of the photo. Mike and I went to a ribs to go place. We got all these ribs. Mac and cheese. No, I can name everything you got. Oh, sure. Onion rings. You got Texas toast. You had mac and cheese. You had beans. You had ribs. You had barbecue chicken. I smelled it all. I saw it all. I loved. I loved.

The thought of eating it. We played it all out on the table and then on the right was Andy's little side salad. You got me like a side salad. The side salad had chicken salad with it. Come on. We're not barbarians. Oh, it was great. So anyways, the reason for that is because part of the back. Duke Johnson's vault. Well, no, no, no. I was going to bring up, we've been talking about the fact.

The over under was, you know, three receptions. And we've been talking about Torrell Prower got four for 19. But Duke, Duke Johnson was kind of lost in that. I'd rather eat a side cell than start Duke Johnson this week. He had five receptions for 31 yards. So he actually had five crushed, crushed the bed. Yeah, crushed the bet. All right. We don't think Melvin Gordon's going to play. You got to like Kenneth Farrow. Yes. As an RB2 with upside potential this week.