Fantasy Football - Week 17 Championship Matchups + Wheel of Shame! - Podcast for 12/26

If you wanted to ask a quarterback question, Tyler Shuck or Jacoby Brissette? I think I'd go Brissette. Yeah, I'm going to go Jacoby. Caleb Johnson at San Francisco, my start of the week, or Tyler Shuck? How many quarters is Caleb get? Does he get five? Because he was great with five. I think I'd play Shuck. I'd go, Caleb. All right, Jacksonville's 11 and 4. They take on the Indianapolis Colts. By the way, by the way, this game is Jacksonville minus 6 over under 48 and a half. Philip Rivers is better than half of the players in football at the quarterback position. We were marveling watching these games just like, you can't find 30 people in the world to play this position professionally. And a 44-year-old out of shape hasn't played in five years, Philip Rivers. With no arm ability to throw most NFL throws. Uncalculably better than Max Brosmer than Ola Dukin.

I mean, then literally probably, I mean, then should do her. He'd be better for that team than should doers. Yeah. I mean, it's insane. Like Tom Brady could come in and beat two thirds of the starters. Probably true. Today. I still think Brett Farr could do it, but that's the one I want to see. Slow to see. I hold his Brett Farr. That's probably 53. That's my guess. I'm on it. He is 56. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think he could do it anymore. but I want to see it. I don't know. It's just crazy. For science. For an update, Joanne is plus 180. Tayson is plus 195. Okay. For a touchdown. So, Juan, just a little. A head. Well, it's a must-win game for Phillip Rivers and the Colts to have any chance of staying alive. They would be eliminated if, I think, if Houston just wins. Yeah. So low odds right now for the formerly 7-1 Colts. I believe this was the game that I said I'm really.

on the edge of taking the Colts as the almost upset in this one. So I guess I'll just formalize it. Andy's almost upset of the week. I don't really know if the Colts Devons can do enough to slow down what's been going on with Jacksonville. But being at home with everything on the line, Jacksonville coming off the Denver win, I'll give it a shot. It's a six point gap. They don't have to win. They just got to get it closer than that six points. Jacksonville been playing outstanding. Jason, you made Trevor Lawrence your start of the week. Yeah, you got to stay in the flames. You want to talk NBA jam rules. This is just life rules. When someone's been as good as they've been since the by week, his last eight games, he's on pace for 36 passing touchdowns and 12 interceptions, 4,000 passing yards. He's also running the ball, 444 rushing yards.

and he's got the offense moving or maybe Liam Cohen's got the offense moving. Did you see his comments though? He said they've changed zero of their offense or their offensive, like anything they've done with Trevor, they haven't changed a thing all season long. He's just processing faster. He's just finding his way through the offense. I thought that was interesting. The issue with Trevor Lawrence has always been putting the ball where a receiver can't catch it. That's it. Like he'll make these amazing plays, but he's been very. inconsistent with his accuracy recently he's just putting the ball where they need it and it's like all right he's got the tools he's he's athletic he's tall he's strong armed um he's got the weapons everything is set up for him if he can just hair yeah the hair that all sorts of things um so what

uh i just i always i always remember thinking about the tweet that said he's got one too many horse parts and i can't i can't get that out of my i can't get that out of my life like Trevor lawrence to me you were going to make a horse comment yeah i 100% knew you decided oh i shouldn't say that he's got the main who knows what all horse parts he has but he's uh he's he's got a lot of so anyways He's a horse got rocket arm. Yeah. Yeah. He's a sound again. What do they call that? A weenie? A witty? Is that a one? No, that's not. Neither one, right? Yeah, when they do the lips, what is that thing called? I don't know. It sounds like it should start with like a blurt. It's a horse. It's a horse. It's a horse blurt. Horseberry. Blarp. I thought our research team might be looking in. Oh, no. They don't care. I was. Oh, were you? It says lip flapping or lip fluttering. That's what I'm seeing here. Okay. You got a.

play travis et n got to bring him that better play travis et n and give me the order of your confidence in the wide receivers for jacksonville i have jacobie meires as my start of the week parker washington just went crazy last week it's hard to it's hard to be like hey play brian thomas thirtain last week yeah i think it i think it's jacobi thomas washington for me that's how i put it too and it feels kind of stupid what was the name again is that like one person Jacoby Thomas Washington. Yeah, famous president, right? Of course. Jacobi. It feels stupid to have Parker, Parker, Parker, Washington third on the list. Because he's been really good for a long time, that entire, that exact same time frame after the by week for Trevor Lawrence. I mean, he's been a top 24 wide receiver, four of his seven starts. But I agree. I mean, the best overall wide receiver.

is Jacoby. The highest upside big fantasy outpouring is obviously Brian Thomas Jr. And then Parker Washington could get it done. But I do think last week Parker Washington benefited from a great Broncos defense that kind of was focusing on the one and two and letting Parker surprise. Jonathan Taylor has not been a top 12 running back since week 10. It's a brutal matchup against Jacksonville. It's not really going to change, you know, what you're doing. It's kind of like the reason you always play Jonathan Taylor is because of what Ashton Jinty did last week. Even when you're having a tough time, you're Jonathan Taylor, which means one play. Which it's still been fine. Yeah, it's like he has 10 plus points. The last six weeks, number one in football against running backs. Yeah, I mean, he put up 21 for 74 against them with a touchdown a couple weeks ago. Yeah. No, it's not a.

It's not impossible. Change your plans. It's just maybe he's not the one that carries you to the title this week. Yeah, correct. He helps you. Pittman, Pierce, Downs. Put them in order. I think, I think Downs is the safest play if you're just like, I need a floor. And then I guess I'd go Pierce if I'm trying to hit my ceiling. Michael Pittman's just in this weird limbo area in the offense with Phillip Rivers. Three for 26, four for 32 for Pittman. hasn't scored since week 12. And we have the, there's two Rivers starts so far. Yeah. So, I mean, in those targets each game. Yeah, in those two, he's Michael Pittman's playing the whole game and 26 yards and 32 yards. It's not that I think Pittman is playable, but I think I prefer the other guys. Tyler Warren is my start of the week at tied in. Nine targets last week with Phil. He is the most helpful offensive weapon that they have for Philip Rivers, in my opinion, with the size.

Short area target capability. I like Tyler Warner. I might stand alone in this group. I know. I think you do. I get it. I get it. The matchup is fine. The targets have been there nine last week, but it turned into 30 yards. You know, three for 30 with Philip Rivers, three for 19 with Phillip Rivers. I'm in the middle. I'll still take nine targets. I would. I think it'll be better than three. I would play the Saints guys personally over, over Warren. Tampa Bay 7 and 8 but still alive. The Dolphins 6 and 9 Vegas line Tampa Bay minus 6 over under 45 and a half. If they win their last two games, Tampa Bay will win the South. So they're right there despite the fact it's looked bad. Since week 9, the by week, Baker completing just 59% of his passes. Going to Abuca too much. Dekhi doesn't know how to throw to him. Well, Abuca's not even in play.

I don't think you would even consider a Bucon championship week. That would be crazy. Any player on any team, yes, even Turpin, right, can make a big play on any given week. But there's nothing statistically snap-wise of encouragement right now for the last six weeks for a way down. So, you know, they came out this week right away and they're like, oh, we got to get them involved early. That was a big, that was talked about OC head coach. That was like what they were saying. And then they give them 56% of snaps. No, I'm saying after that. But they did it before as well. No. And then they came out and said, we need to get a ball more. We're all trying to find the guy responsible. And again, Baker last week, we can say all we want, but he threw for 145 yards. Two weeks ago, 122 yards. That will not make any of it work for anybody. It won't make it work for Evans. It won't make it work for Godwin. It won't make it work for Abuca. The bucks are, this is weird and sad.

that they become, what they have become, because you have, yeah, I'm playing Mike Evans. I have no problem there, but it's like, Bucky Irving, who, when I'm watching him, he looks great. He looks like Bucky Irving. He's still getting a bunch of opportunities, except they have now gone to, like he's getting, he's getting charboned by Sean Tucker. Yeah, Sean Tucker is seemingly the goal line back. I get some that one. That's Charbonade, huh? Yeah. It's like, they're like, okay, thank you for your work, Bucky. Get out of there. Sean Tucker, we'll take it from here. Also, in the four games since he came back from injury, he's not hit just four yards of carry in a single game. He's not been the efficient explosive Bucky where we were used to prior to that injury. I don't know if he's still struggling with it or if more likely, because when I watch him, I don't think he looks like he's.

physically struggling. I think it's the Buck's offense. I agree with that. And Baker Mayfield that's just kind of taken a step down. I think Baker is struggling physically. And so it hurts the whole cast. So are you saying that, you know, would you, are you going and looking at your roster genuinely if you've got a Michael Carter or you're just playing Bucky and hoping for the best? I'm going to play Bucky. Yeah. He's had a 10 plus yard run in all four of his starts. I think you still look for big play there. They're heavily favored. I wouldn't go away from him for Michael Carter.

personally. No, I wouldn't even think about it. Not to that level. Ah, man. What about Kenny Gainwell? I think that's a more fair discussion, but I'm nervous about everything in that game. Yeah, I agree with that. Low over under. How about a divisional? Tracy. Tracy's been good against the Raiders. I think I might go with him over Bucking. I mean, I've got Bucky ahead of all of these players in my rankings. Yeah, I'll play Bucky. I think I will stick with Bucky. Devon A. Chan, play him. I'm done talking about the dolphins. That is. I just started. That's fair. Well, that's because years. I mean, you're talking about an infinitely better quarterback than Max Brosmer? Yes, an infinitely better. For 260? Incredible. What about Jayne and Wattle? Waddle or Tett McMillan? Tett. Ladd-Maconke against Houston. Oh, that's tough. Waddle. Yeah. Watson versus Baltimore, Christian Watson.

Um, how's his tummy? How's his tummy and who is his quarterback? So I don't think I can not enough info to answer that right now. New England's 12 and 3. The jets are 3 and 12. Oh, palindrome. Vegas line New England by just 13 and a half on the road. Overrunners 42 and a half. Denver was favored by that as well. Implied point total. Yeah, but Denver always is and always freaking does that man. They are so annoying. Frauds. But they are, I don't think they're frogs. No, I like what you said. They play to their opponent. But that's also like, can you do that in the playoffs and count on it? Maybe. I mean, here's the thing. Maybe. They are, you know how teams, your identity takes shape based off of like, something's like, oh, your coach. And it's like, Sean Payton's real annoying. Right? Okay. Yeah, he's very annoying.

Just Denver Broncos have adapted that. We're just an annoying team. Okay. So you're like your coach. And people want to punch us in the face. So the Cardinals are like a poop team. Yeah. Yeah. They're number two. Okay. Trying to think. Yeah, the Andy Reed seems are fun. They're always fun. He's fun. Yeah. Hmm. We got to add this to the UDK. The Rams are cool. Right. They're cool. They're cool. They're cool. They're sexy. Hmm. Let's talk about the Jets. I'm going to put this in my analysis moving forward. Well, the over-under is like 10 points under, almost 10 points under the Cardinal game, but the Patriots have almost the same implied point total as the Bengals because of the how favored they are. So New England. New York. We have some questions now. I love, on Wednesday, it's like, I mean, I love Drake May in this matchup. I know they're heavily favored, but I think that they will, I think that Drake May will come through with a big game.

And on top of that, like, you know, they're trying to win Drake May and MVP. Might try and get him a little, a bonus touchdown here, one or two of them. But you have Kashan Booty who is not practicing with a concussion. Now you have Mack Hollins. Yeah, he's not going to play. Who has not practiced all week with an abdomen injury, even though he's very, very close to a $400,000 payday if he just gets four more catches. But it's just the lack of those guys. It's not that I'm pivoting off of Drake May. Just maybe the ceiling is not what it, what, what, what I was projecting on Wednesday. You can see a ton of remandre in this game because of the, the lack of need to throw the football. You can see a ton of consolidation. That's, that's what's going to happen. Hunter Henry is who I like the very much. Sure. He's my tight end five on the season. I think Hunter Henry and Stefan Diggs are going to have. He's your five on the season. He's, he's my tight in five this week.

Okay. I was like, that's an impressive new stat. I didn't know we did that. But I think there will be a consolidation of fantasy points. Like Drake May will spread it around, annoyingly so. He'll go to the open guy. But if Kyle Williams. If his guys are. Kyle Williams is legit worth talking about. Yeah. I mean, he would very well could be. What, you know, the volume wasn't there necessarily. He had the huge awesome touchdown catch. When booty got knocked out. of that game, he was the one who actually ran the most routes of the remaining wide receivers. Diggs is four receptions from $500,000. Henry 3 from $500,000. They'd love to get those guys, those marks this week. A million dollars to hand out there. Ramondra, a great start this week. Yeah. And Drake May should be 202. That's what I think that. Don't expect him. I mean, he had not been really inside the top 10 for a while before this week, despite all the wins, right? They won every game except for one against Buffalo.

quarterback 17, 11, 12, 10, 13, finally got back in there at 7 last week. If he was the quarterback 14 this week, that would be about my expectation. Yeah, I think that starting the week when we thought maybe they would have more weapons available, he was a little bit higher, especially if, you know, if Trayvion doesn't go, because Trayvion's such a, you know, could take that screen pass for 50 yards and a touchdown. I had him early in the week as like my quarterback two or three. Now he's more. seven, eight range with guys I would play ahead of him. Ramandre can take the screen past 15 yards out of bounds. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So that's also possible. He'll take the exact same amount of time to do it though. Right. Break some tackles and go and then it's like the length of the play. Remandre is a valuable player. The length of the play is like sexy player. Seven seconds. So whether it's Hindo or Ramondre. Brady Cook. One goes a lot farther. Brady Kirk will start on the other side and that is bad news for the Jets.

Brees Hall has not only been really bad for fantasy, running back 44, 4740, but I was looking at this because it was one of my prize picks projections that I almost went with this week. I didn't do it, but it was like 13 and a half yards longest rush, which normally is a bad, scary bet for Brees Hall. He's had longer runs. He hasn't done that in three weeks. He hasn't hit 13 through three weeks. Earlier this year when they had quarterbacks under center, you know, you had a long run of 18, 17, 23, 22, 35, 30. Now you look at the last, just going back in the box score, the last week, 13, 11, 9, 9, 11. It's like if they don't have a quarterback there, you have one player to stop because that quarterback's not going to get the ball to Adnigh Mitchell down the field and hurt your team. Brees Hall could do something. So you're playing everybody focus on Brees Hall.

Trying to just get into the psychology a little bit of the, maybe just narrative, but Brees Hall, I mean, he's, his Christmas chain, he's counting it down. He's cutting the rings off. Absolutely. He's like, freedom. Get me out. He packs a new bag every day. You think Brees Hall wants to get hurt? No. With two weeks left and he's going to try and break the bank. I mean, he's going to make business decisions and he should. Yeah, yeah, Vegas, Cleveland, New York. is the two, three, and four in the draft right now. He should get a tummy issue today. Yeah. Be like, oh, man, bad sushi guys. They were saying the Giants need to counter the Brock Bowers to IR by starting Russ. We'll take a break. We'll get into some more matchups. Lowe's nose. Sundays are for football. So tackle your home improvement projects by Saturday and earn your Sunday with great deals on LG and Bosch appliances. Select bounty and Swiffer cleaning products and more.

Then once your to-do list is done, get ready to kick back, relax, and enjoy the game. Shop in store or online now and earn your Sunday with help from Lowe's official partner of the NFL. The 12 and 3 number one seed Seattle Seahawks are seven point favorites against the 8 and 7 Carolina Panthers. The over under is 42 and a half. It's not a lot. Carolina does control their own destiny, right? Yes. It's wild. The Seahawks do as well for their number one seat. Those control your own destiny things are so funny to me because it's like Carolina controls its own destiny, but also so does Tampa Bay. Because they play each other. It's like it's just who wins that game. Yep. Yeah, that's fair. It's going to end up a week 18 battle. They can clinch the NFC South if they won this game. They're seven point underdogs.

They've been seven and two and one score game. Seattle, six and three. Both of these teams have been good in that department. If they win and Tampa loses. And Tampa Bay loses. Thank you. So where are you in this one? Rico Dowdell has been really disappointing. He has 70 yards from a million dollars. I don't think they give two farts about that right now. Because when you don't have your play seating secured, you don't care about that. He is. He is. He has. Been disappointing. based off of an adjustment that you made mentally about him in the middle of the season. But last week against Tampa, that was horrible, 6.3 fantasy points. But before that, even though he's not destroying the world, he was still getting over 10 points a week. But the confidence to play him in this matchup against the Seahawks is pretty low. I play Carter. I play Carter. Easy Michael Carter. This is a situation where you had a run where he was, you know,

80 plus percent of snaps, 70 plus percent of snaps. Then Chuba comes back. They went right back to Chuba. Then they were like, oh, we made a mistake. We got to go back to Rico. And then they're like, ah, we made a mistake. Now it's like they're splitting. They're just splitting. And since they've been splitting, he has not been that good. He's been sub 10 most of those splits when he's down around 50% of the snaps where you expect him to be. And then you add that against a very tough opponent here. I mean, this is a matchup that you don't want to run against the Seahawks on the course of the season and in the last six weeks. They're number two against running banks. So you tell me you get 50% of less than what Carolina usually does. I would look elsewhere. Yeah, like my dynasty squad, I'm trying to figure out my final flex position and like Juan Johnson is in play for me.

And I have RICO on that roster. It's like, no, I would play another tight end in that situation before I'm playing RICO this week. Yeah, I agree. Tetero and McMillan, currently the favorite for offensive rookie of the year. I do think it'll be interesting if he has a slow week and Tyler Shuck has a big week. If Shuck wins at least one more game, I think that Shuck will be the rookie. Yeah. His schedule on the road against Tennessee and then the last game on the road against the Falcons for Shuck. Those are two winnable games. If he wins both, he's guaranteed. That'd be so awesome. But Tetaro has been good. Sarsit decisions in this game, Mike, the Kenneth Walker situation from last week. Is he just setting you up to let you down? He is a terrifying start this week because it should, it makes sense. You know, I'm not even looking at last week. The 11 for 100 against the Rams. It's just he is explosive.

and the Panthers are 27th against running backs on the season 28th over the last six weeks. It's right there for Walker. If he's going to, I mean, if he scores. You're in your lineup? Right. He is, it's between him and Joanne Johnson. Trying to figure out what I need. Who would you start between Kenneth Walker and Charbonne? It's still Walker. Yeah. But it's like Charb's, this could be one of those stupid games where Charms two touchdowns on eight carries. You are always playing with fire with Kenneth Walker. Yes, you are. He is an explosive player. It makes sense this week. Where it did make sense last week and he came through. It feels a lot like Travion and Ramandre, but maybe a little bit light. Like Kenneth Walker had two 50 plus yard plays last week, right? He had the past catch early in the game that he almost scored on down at the three, had the long touchdown run. But if you don't get the big play from him.

You know, Romandre rumbles into the end zone. Charbonnet rumbles into the end zone. If your big play doesn't end in the end zone, you are not rewarded. Correct. You are taken out and the other guy gets it. That's right. J.S.N. Always playing him. Play him with joy in your heart. AJ Barner, a desperation play at tight end. Probably wouldn't do it in this matchup, though, even though he's been pretty good. It's a tough matchup for tight ends. That's all you can lean on right here. And Sam Darnold, does he see an option heavily favored on the road here at all?

I prefer not. I think there's better options in single quarterback leagues that are available. Darnold has been really hot and cold. Yeah, red light, green light. Yeah, we're on way to a red light though. I got a laugh here. I'm just, I saw that some waivers went through in our league of record. I'm like, oh, Mike, Daniel, the two guys going at it in the championship game. No, it was the freshly eliminated Papa Josh picking up Dylan Samson. Just in case. What's that for? You never know, man. You never know. Judkins, I mean, wins, Judkins can be ready with that. Yeah, I mean, dude, talk about a keeper. All right. The Giants, didn't we talk about this game enough? I guess not. The Giants are two and 13. The Raiders are two and 13. It's a 41.5 point over under. Giants one and a half point road favorites. Okay. These teams cannot stop the run. Their quarter, I mean, Jackson Dart, the game plan for Jackson Dart last week.

was basically like anybody could do what you're doing. Why did they do that? I don't, yeah, it was like it felt like he was being punished. It was weird. This team was way better with table. I don't care. Oh, they, they definitely were. They were. They haven't won a game since he's left. I, and I would not, I would not doubt that Tracy and Singletary get 30 plus opportunities this week. I mean, the, the recipe for this game is going to be, it's going to be gross. It's going to be a gross game. It's going to be running facts. Which sucks. Jackson Dart was fantastic for fantasy. I have no confidence in him this week. None. None. Against the soft team. He had zero fantasy points last week. He played the whole game. 100% of snaps, zero fantasy points. Yeah, I would bail out. So I would bail out of just about everything in this game outside of Gentie and Tracy. I think Wondale is, but that scared me last week with the PPR.

Yeah, I mean, obviously, if they're not letting Dart throw the ball, that's going to be bad for all the receiving options. I can't believe that they're going to go as extreme as it was last week. Because, I mean, that was the first and only game we've seen like that. They've been letting dart throw. So I don't know what their rationale was for that. Maybe it carries over. Keep them alive for next year. That's how it feels. And both of these franchises, it would be so much better for everyone to lose. Someone's going to win. This is the Dung Bowl. Somebody's going to win and the other team's going to get the number one pick. So, you know. Raiders are at home. Who wins this game? Who's Fernando Mendoza rooting for? Because Mendoza might go to the Raiders in both situations. Then he should be hoping that the Raiders lose so they don't have to trade assets to go get him. Yeah. I don't know. No pivots to Michael Mayer with no Brock Bowers.

No, the Giants defense is stingy against tight ends. Yeah. Okay. Darius Slaten can eat a butt once again. Yeah. Thank you, Darius. Trey Tucker should be okay. I mean, the targets are going to have to go somewhere. We're going to keep our eyes on Jack Bash. Hopefully he looks good as a, you know, end of rookie season, good opportunity. But you're not playing him. Trey Tucker should. be the target beneficiary from having no Brock Bowers. Philly's 10 and 5. The Buffalo Bills are 11 and 4. The Vegas line, Buffalo minus 1 and a half over under 43 and a half. We thought Lane Johnson might come back this week. He will be, I don't think he's going to be back. He heard Mike needs one more week of not blocking well for Saquan since Mike's facing Saquan, and then he'll come back because it's Mike's here. I would really appreciate that.