Week 5 Waivers + Tyreek Talk, Hole-in-One? - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/6

That's a good, I don't think that's a bad game environment. I'm saying that like when we talked about, it looked like he had the yips. Drake May. You're like, did he get his groove back? Because if he did, then Romeo Dobbs looks even better. There are two players that I think are like secret starts that are low rostered and very interesting. They both are actually rostered in 15% of leagues. Keon Coleman. Yeah. And Antonio Williams. Because Keon Coleman.

and Antonio Williams both have a missing wide receiver one potentially for this week. We don't know about DJ Moore. They said not long term, but you may give him a week this time because he played through the injury last time. Probably should. You should. And then Antonio Williams with no Terry McLaurin, eight targets for Antonio Williams, seven for Keon Coleman. Coleman was much better with his targets. He was six for 116 and one, the game environment, the Rams. That should be high scoring. I really like Keon Coleman as a

A one week start with longer term potential. Yeah, I do too. I mean, however long. They delete Dalton Kincaid. However long DJ Moore is out, I believe that Keon Coleman will be a valuable piece. He's looked the part. Obviously, the coaches spent the entire offseason being like, you know, we love them. If DJ Moore is there, I am very hesitant to start Keon Coleman. Yeah, I would probably be. But I like both of those players. And Antonio Williams is fun because this is a rookie who has looked really

good. He hasn't been on the field that much. He's been playing like 40% of snaps, but every time he's had the opportunity, he's been good. They go to him. And, you know, last week he had a massive touchdown that was called back on penalty. They didn't have Jaden Daniels. And so now all of a sudden, if you're without Tara McLaurin and Antonio Williams is on the field and he has Jaden Daniels and he's a rookie that can ascend and become better, more integrated into the offense, that's a fun pickup to me.

There are a lot of other names. I want to have the Tyree Kill conversation. Yes. Because Tyree Kill is obviously not rostered right now. Oh, he is. He's shockingly rostered quite a bit. What? I meant on an NFL team. Oh, yes. That is true. He currently has no NFL team. He's 54% rostered? Yeah. You degenerates. It's a result of the last handful of a day. Hope is a hell of a drug. Joe Mixing was getting picked up all over the place on Sunday before we even had a team. The thing with Tyree Kill, the chiefs are on by this week.

They're the natural destination. They're not the guaranteed destination. Tyreek is a, he's got an ego. He wants to get paid properly for his commiserate with his history. Yeah. And I'm not positive that the team, that the chiefs are willing to pay that money right now. So we just basically... So when is he ready? Yeah, we don't have answers to those questions and he doesn't go on an IR. He takes a roster spot. That is brutal at this time of year. Like I dropped Darren Waller this morning.

because they're going on buy. I just don't even, I can't even hold Waller over the buy. I'd rather have another player to put on this roster that has a chance to do something this week and give me trade value or starting value with the buy week starting. You don't know when he's back. He was originally targeting November. November's not that far away, but it's several weeks, obviously. In fantasy football time, it's forever. He could come back sooner, maybe because of being forced into action with the injuries that the Chief's wide receivers.

you know, Core already has familiarity with the system, with the enemy, with Mahomes. To me, Tyree Kill is a very important pickup. You've got to look at your roster. You've got to look at your bench size. You've got to say, am I able to hold a guy that might not play? Is he going to be great? I don't know. Probably not. But you know what his talent and ability could be if it hits. You look at guys like Stefan Diggs, who he's not the same Stefan Diggs that he used to be, but he's

really relevant for fantasy football. You're talking about in Washington? Yeah. Or last year? Both. So, like, if Diggs is sitting there on the waiverware, though, and I tell you, you can't play for six weeks, let's just pretend that happens, right? Because I think it's a good exercise. If you're getting, if you're getting Diggs production out of Tyree Kill. Not worth it. Well, and I don't, I'm not sure it gets better than that. Rashi Rice is not long-term hurt. Yeah, we didn't mention that. The Rashi Rice news was that he was a baby.

I mean, essentially. I will never attack a man because I have no idea what it felt like. But the news was more positive that it could just be a slight hamstring injury. But look at this. Like Tyquan Thornton. His was not slight. No, no, his injury is 12 to 16 weeks, playoffs maybe. But Tyquan Thornton had a 25 point game for this offense, right? So that's, I mean, he could, he could come in and be Thornton. Like, but if you say he's Thornton, nobody's fighting, nobody was fighting for Thornton on the waiver wire.

If he came in and he's digs, you said he's not worth it. So that means he's got to be better than dig. For a hold. For a hold, right? Like, if AJ Brown is out there and you're like, you've got to hold him on your bench, no IR spot for six weeks, we'd all be like, yeah. Right. So what is the- That's exactly what I'm saying. I'm not saying that the probability. I'm not saying that the probability is high that he comes back and is a star. I am absolutely saying that's possible. I believe it's possible that Tyree Kill comes back and is a-

A top 15 wide receiver for fans. No implications here. I'm not trying to disprove that. I'm just pointing out. 2024 before the injury, Tyree Kill was 81 for 959 in 17 weeks. Okay. So, I mean, that was not good. And then Miami last year in four weeks, he's been 10 points a game for the last two weeks. So I'm just saying he's years removed with an injury. So what would you spend to have the hold?

Like, what are you going to spend? Tell me what you're going to do in our League of Record. We have millions of people listening. I will probably. Because I'm not, I will have no, I'm not putting a bid in on it. I will probably drop like 20% of fab. You will get it. Fantastic. So Kansas City wise. But your team is unique. Kansas City wise, because that's the, I think Jay, what your target is is you're like, I think that Tyree Kill ends up on Kansas City. Right. Yes. Okay. So in the meantime, wow, he's not.

playing. These guys are lower on the waiver wire, but I think you've got to lump them in. It's like, what does Kansas City do in the meantime? Because they're on, they're on by. But even though Rashid Rice, the news is good, I would expect him to miss week, week six. And Thornton won't be out. So what is the move there? Who are that, do you like, Cybers Allen was the preseason guy that he was, we get one chief a year every, every single season that he's a late round pick that.

has something that the Twitter hive likes about it. I don't care about either guy. You're going to say Jalen Royals and Cyrus Allen. I don't care about either guy because we've gone through years and years of the Justin Watson's and Thorntons and like none of those guys are going to be a focal point for Patrick Mahomes. I, yeah. So me personally, I'm not wasting my time on it. Cyrus Allen, the way that the game unfolded. Justin Ross, Skymore. Yeah, the way the game unfolded was that basically Jalen Royals came in for Rushie Rice.

And Cyrus Allen came in for Thornton when they went down. That's not a guarantee that those are the roles that they would inherit. But that's the evidence we have. That's what I would be working with. So if Rushie Rice's injury is not long term, then Jalen Royals isn't that valuable. Cyrus Allen would be the guy I would pick up ahead. But then if Tyreek comes in, that's worthless. They're going to buy. So I...

I do not think I'm going hard after either. You know, zero dollar bids on either. They're fine, but I'm not going hard after them. If you, go ahead, Mike. That's interesting to me of, like, being willing to dump 20% on chasing the dragon of Tyree Kill when these guys are actually on the team. Yeah, I mean, you know, remember the ceiling comp. It's a ceiling thing. It's a ceiling thing. And I do think Tyree Hill's ceiling. I'm, 2024.

When he wasn't that good and it was a couple years ago, he also was playing for two, but not just to a missed a third of the season and was gone. So that was, you know, it's like if he comes back to a team that is needy with BNAMI, with Mahomes, we've, we've seen it work. And we've also seen like when Hall of Fame level players come back, you know, there's, there's a lot of. He's going to be 33. Yeah, we have.

You know, it's shooting your shot based on your situation. I think one of the best sneaky starts that you could have this week is actually going to be Dante Myers, wide receiver, Cincinnati Bengals. Could be. Plays Miami, had nine targets, played 89% of snaps. You're like, who's that? I get it. You've never heard of him. Dante Myers came in and was the beneficiary. They don't have Yoshivas. They have an injury to T. Higgins. And T. Higgins, if he's anything, he's a great player, and he recovers slow.

And then Jamar Chase, do we have them this week? There's a world where Dante Myers and Mike Gisicki are the top two receiving targets alongside Chase Brown for the Bengals for one week against Miami. I'm just saying. I'm with you that it's a strong one week. And you can put them on most people out there that aren't listening to the show can add Dante Myers for a dollar a fap. No one in your league is going to, they'll be fighting for Tyreek.

And you can add Dante Myers, and no one will know. And you can start it. That's if those guys are out. I agree. What about Mitch Tinsley, the other wide receiver there who has the same pathway? I'll take the guy who got nine targets. Yeah. Like he was already out there when everybody was actually healthy. No targets for Tinsley, 53% of snaps. He is a big play guy. I've seen those, the deep balls have gone to him before. Was he the one that was with Buffalo?

Was it Tinsley that was with Buffalo or was he always with Cincinnati? Yeah, I guess it's always Cincinnati. Somebody flashed. I think he flashed in the preseason one of these years. Maybe that's why I recognize the name. But, you know, the other name, I want to just throw it out through real quick. Concepcion, 62% rostered. Roman Wilson, only 7% rostered. Roman Wilson's interesting to me. The snaps are just microscopic. So you're like, if you don't have snaps, can you rely on this guy with Aaron Rogers? That's the scare.

of the situation. But Malik Washington, these are like next tier down. Kalil Shakir should get work. Kalil Shakir will score exactly eight fantasy points this week. If you're into that, you could do worse. If you're into that, just pick up Malik Washington. Yeah, Malik Washington in a full PPR league. He's about, he is just like, whoever in the league is like, I need a receive, I need got to borrow a receiver this week. Yeah.

Can someone, if someone's spare receiver and you're like, yeah, the waiver wire. It's got Malik Washington. Always, yeah. Just play them. You'll get, you'll get 50 to 70 yards. And then you just, it's like to find a penny, leave a penny, take a penny. He is Kalishikir for the Dolphins. You'll get 10 points if you're in a PPR league, which is not bad. Right. Drop candidates at wide receiver, Dantavian Wicks, Cortland Sutton, Quentin Johnston. I would be willing to drop all three for sure. Huge.

It is dropable. Man, I don't know that I would drop drops. I wouldn't drop Wix just a day. I would not either. Sutton and Q's, I'm fine moving on. It's just wild because the last two weeks, like Wix. Wix goes to Jacksonville. Your quarterback threw for net negative five yards in the second half. I think you're very big play dependent on Tontavian Wix. Yeah, you are, but we've seen it already. I mean, 73 yards week one, 74 yards week two.

two down weeks since then. Wix himself is getting open. So it feels like if they got to figure something out. I mean, if they don't have to. For four weeks, you're probably dropping him for most of the guys we talked about though, right? The earlier wide receivers? I mean, Dante Myers for this week. For this week, yeah, assuming the injuries go as we think. And of course, Coleman and Dobbs. But there, Wix isn't like a, I'm just getting rid of him at all costs type of player.

Let's take a break. We'll talk tight ends. Well, the story of tight in this week is T.J. Hawkinson, 13 for 119. And frankly, he looked pretty good. He caught all 13 of the targets. I thought he looked solid. Maybe he's taken more time than expected to come back from his injury where he didn't look like the old T.J. Hawkinson last week. This is one where it's like you're betting on Jefferson missing again. Yeah.

But also it could be a trend. You said, hey, we don't know what it looks like with Kyla Murray. Maybe we do now. Maybe Kyler Murray, who we know from Arizona, doesn't like to take a hit, is going to throw the ball. I mean, his problem, he throws the ball short now. Yeah, it's really annoying. It's disgusting. Hawkinson was with Murray against Tampa Bay where he put up four targets, two for 11. In week three, you think? Yeah. Murray played week three. Yeah.

Yeah. So we have, we only have two games of Murray. One was awesome for Hawkinson. Yes. And the other one was like your tight end. We had Jefferson. Is that the game Jefferson went out then, though? Yes. Okay. So we don't have, if Jefferson's completely out. You're saying maybe game playing. I just mean like Jefferson was, when did he even leave that game? 12% of snaps. He left at the very beginning. Okay. In 15 games without Jefferson in his career, he's averaged six targets per game in those games. Britton Strange. We talked about his snaps and route share going up.

Mike Gassicki. Yeah, like Gassiki. I mean, Gassiki is sneaky. If they're both dealing with the injuries, you know, if we're doing our calculus here, if Bengals are out and Jefferson is out, I would rather play Gassiki. I'd still play Hawkinson. I would be Hawkinson in that situation, but I think both are great pickup and plays this week if their respective wide receivers are out. We got Friday the 13th here, 12.7% rostered. 10 targets 8 for 82.