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Monstrous, weak winning, big time play games. Amari Cooper has done that over and over and over again at the NFL level. But I feel like we give Tyreek a little bit more of a pass on the consistency than we do, Amari Cooper. Maybe that's because Cooper has gone out. He's done so many times. And he just disappeared, you know, it hasn't been the defense taking him away, it feels like. It feel like he's been taking himself away in some of these games. And Brooks just updated. Amari Cooper and basketball is going in the fourth round. I'm actually fine with that.

He's going running back, running back. He's a wide receiver 12, Marvin Jones is the wide receiver 37 in case you want that game to continue. And also the game is not saying that Marvin Jones is a Murray Cooper. No, it's more so saying that it's not saying to move Marvin Jones up. It's just to highlight the fact that expectations and reality aren't the same thing for Mari Cooper sometimes. Michael Gallup, three rounds behind Mari Cooper. If you had to pick between them, are you taking Gallup, Mike? Yes, I would take Michael Gallup.

Before this, I went and I was looking at all the wide receivers who in their sophomore season hit the 1,100 yard mark, and the hit rate of these wide receivers is unbelievable. You go through the list of them, and the ones that busted is because they got hurt or because their quarterback went down essentially, like, basically Corinne Robinson was like the only guy who I could find where he just never really did a whole lot after that.

So, yes, after seeing the names on the list, the sophomore wide receivers who had 1100 yards, I'm very bullish on Michael Gallup. Any chance of C.D. Lamb has a rookie impact, Jason. A rookie impact, yeah. I mean, you have Randall Cobb last year with 83 targets. I think you give 83 targets to C.D. Lamb and his ability to yards after the catch a billion times better than Randall Cobb. And he could take some to the house. He's not the rookie wide receiver that I'm targeting because he's not slotting into.

a role that could be 100 plus targets over the course of the season. I would rather go with Jalen Rager or Jerry Judy. Randall Cobb just dialed in. He would like you to change that from a billion to at least just a million. Okay. Look, all hyperbole aside, I'll take my exaggeration away. It's one million times better than Randall Cobb. And now I'm being actually... A billion is very insulting for poor Randall Cobb. You know, it's just one of those things where the...

the ability of C.D. Lamb to navigate traffic without ever being able to get tackled. Obviously, this is college. But, you know, still compared to other college players, it's just, it's an amazing ability. He was my number one wide receiver coming in. Unfortunately, he lands where he is the third on this roster. I would like Gallup.

We had a mock draft where I took Amari Cooper and Gallup. It was on accident, but it is telling. It was telling that... I didn't mean to do it, but I was a genius. That both of these players are guys that I like where they are going and am fine drafting because Dak Prescott is legitimately great for fantasy. I think he's good for the NFL as well, but for fantasy, he's going to throw a lot. Him and Russell Wilson are the only two quarterbacks that have been quarterback ones for the last four years. It's going to keep happening.

Yeah, I think we all love DAC this year. Blake Jarwin. Yes. Plays tied in for the Cowboys. All right. Yes, he does. Moving on to the New York football giant. Blake Jarwin. All right. So here's, here's my case for Blake Jarwin. Is he on your my guys list, Mike? Are you willing to go that wild? We'll see. The nice thing is, I mean, he's, if you punt tight end, here's why I think you should take Blake Jarwin. So last year, he was 8.9 yards per target.

And we know the story, though. Jason Witten was there. Jason Witten in his 6.4 yards per target. What? That's a bad number. Yes. Yes. Over the final two seasons, that's what Witten was putting up. And I get it. Jason Witten was there. If Blake Jarwin was ready, why did Jason Witten come back? Because a Hall of Fame tied end went to Jerry Jones and said, I would like to play football again. You bring them back and you see if he has anything. Witten is gone.

Blake Jarwin is back with a brand new contract. There's 166 targets vacated between Randall Cobb and Jason Witten. That's a lot. Since the year 2000, Blake Jarwin is one of seven tight ends who have ever had a game of 100 yards and three touchdowns. The dude can go off. He can absolutely go ham. And the tight ends that you're selecting from, if you punt, you can't say that.

about all of them. He's going to be in an uptemple passing offense, an offense that is complimented by a horrifically bad defense. They're going to have to throw the ball a ton. And Blake Jarwin, as much as I like C.D. Lamb, like in the range of outcomes, Blake Jarman could be the number three target on this team. All right, let's talk about the Giants. Four and twelve last year, two and five and one score games. It wasn't pretty. There were some moments for...

this offense, Daniel Jones, some fantasy relevant moments. But Pat Schumer is gone. Joe Judge, the new head coach. He was the wide receiver and special teams coach for the Patriots in 2019. Jason Garrett just, you know, down the line in the NFC East. He's now the offensive coordinator. Yeah, he's there. And, okay, he's there. How do we feel about the arrival of Jason Garrett, the new head coach on...

the fantasy relevant pieces here. I mean, Sequin Barclay, unequivocally, capable of being the number one overall fantasy running back. But beyond that, there's just question marks on this team. There are a lot of question marks, and it's really, it really comes down to what you believe in Daniel Jones, more than Jason Garrett. I don't think Jason Garrett gets enough credit. He's so easy to mock with his...

gentle clapping at bad plays you know it's like oh this was this was a bad play it's okay i'm clapping you know it's he's easy to make fun of but he's Garrett i just threw a pick six yeah oh good job good job we'll get him next time champ um yeah so you know but i think he's actually pretty good uh sayquan it's nice to have someone come in that's coming from zeke to say we don't have to worry about that you know he knows how to utilize a workhorse back so that's good so the receiving options

You can put them in a little, you know, just a roulette wheel and pick your favorite between Shepard, who I think is the best of the three, just legitimately NFL wide receiver. So I would take him first. The upside of Darius Slayton, the rookie that came in with a rookie and Daniel Jones showed some big explosive plays. And Golden Tate, who once he came back from suspension, got past that first game, was the best of the three last season. So I don't believe in.

Daniel Jones taking a huge step forward. Neither do I. And I know Mike does. I have my concerns about Daniel Jones taking a step forward because of Jason Garrett in part. Last year, Kellen Moore coming in as an offensive coordinator was the key to the attempts going sky high. Daniel Jones showed a propensity to make so many mistakes in this offense. And when Jason Garrett wants to manage a player making a lot of mistakes and has the ball, he can give the ball to Saquan Barkley,

It makes me wonder if you're going to see less of the gunslinger Daniel Jones and more of the game manager make this pick worthwhile, Daniel Jones. Yeah, it's certainly possible. Why I like Daniel Jones is if he hits his ceiling, then Daniel Jones can be one of the best late round quarterbacks over the last 10 years. Rookies that have actually played at least 10 games and averaged 250 passing yards. Andrew Luck.

Baker, Cam, Winston, and Daniel Jones. It's a very, very small list. He was able to get the job done. Yes, he fumbled the ball a ton. Now, his interceptions, I mean, 12. That number is probably lower. Compared to his fumbles, it's perfect. It would probably would have been a lot higher had he not fumbled the ball so many times. That's 30 turnovers. But the, oh, James Winston says, what? It's 23, but it's.

It's quite the round. I thought you said 18 fumbles. No, 11. 11. Oh, 11 lost. Yeah, I got you. Yeah, 11 lost. 18 for fun. 11 lost. Who's counting? I just get some back there just for fun. But seeing a rookie quarterback, be able to get it done. We haven't even mentioned Evan Engram, who before he got hurt, Evan Engram was the tight end six overall and in points per game. Like, Evan Engram was a half a point of game behind Kelsey and.

George Kittle. Angram gets it done. Do you like the price on Evan Ingram right now, the tight-in six and the seventh round more than the earlier discussion on Zach Ertz and the fifth? Yes, I do. Jason? Angram is a much larger risk. Do you have enough confidence in the risk of Evan Ingram in the seven? No, if I was forced to take one of those two guys, I would go Ertz because while the upside, I think, is there and it's cheaper for Ingram. So you can make that argument based on those two reasons.

I'm going to assume that he gets injured again. I was going to say Mike's, look, it's a fair bet. Mike's sentence about he was the tied in blank when he got injured. I was like, which year does that apply to? All of the years. All of the years. Yes. 11 games started, eight games started, six games started. That is not the right direction that you want to go. Those three games are going to be hot. It will help Daniel Jones. Whatever, however many games it gives, Daniel Jones will be helpful. But, you know, outside of that, it's a very difficult.

wide receiver cordis. Are you picking any, let me ask you this. We're in the NFC East. Are you picking Giants wide receivers ahead of the Eagles? You know, Deshawn Jackson. Are you picking any of these players ahead of D. Jack? Not ahead of Dijacks, no. Okay. So, and your favorite of the bunch, Mike, is Golden and Tate. Yeah, right now it's Golden Tate. Jason, yours is. Shepherd. Okay. And yours? It's probably. Slayton.

I think earlier this offseason, it was Sladen. He could make big plays. I might be coming back around to Golden Tate, though. When I think of trying to manage the turnover proneness of Daniel Jones, Golden Tate is a great friend. It was the wide receiver 21 from week six on. I know, you and your stats. That was touchdown dependent. Stats, stat, wide receiver 21. That's pretty good. That is good. He's got a new game. It's called Mari Cooper or Golden Tate.

Let's talk about any other question marks on that team, but I don't want to go too quick. I'm just so eager to get into Washington football team. The only thing I would say regarding Daniel Jones, there are a lot of minds that I really respect in the industry that love Daniel Jones. They have him as a breakout. And when I statted him out, I was impressed with where he landed. But.

his beginning schedule. We've brought this up before, but if you haven't heard it. Oh, it's Pittsburgh, Jason. It's Pittsburgh, yes. And then he goes to Chicago. And then he's, oh, good, he's back home against the Niners. This is a three-week stretch that is not good for passing offenses. So if you're drafting him late to be this opening, streaming quarterback hope, it's fair. He better be your quarterback, too. I think I'm officially calling the bus for Daniel Jones this year. All right.

Which, I mean, difference of opinion. That's all it is. The schedule mixed with Jason Garrett is all, you know. All right. He's not that bad. Yeah. I think that he could be. That's fair. I think it's a tough division. Washington football team, three and 13 last year. They lost a lot, including their nickname. And here we are. Get it out of here. Passing yards per game, 32nd in football last year.

Hooray. 30 second best? Correct. 30 second in points per game. That's not good. And here we are with a huge question mark at the quarterback position. Dwayne Haskins probably gets more crap than he deserves. He did improve. Tough situation in his rookie year. I have leaned into that because I didn't like him coming out of Ohio State compared to some of the other draft prognosticators.

I think I've probably given him too much crap. He has a very, very talented wide receiver in Terry McClurent. And he's got a good head coach in Ron Rivera, somebody that I think can help manage to move him forward in his career. They drafted Antonio Gibson in the third round. And for those that have not watched college tape of Antonio Gibson, I encourage you to do it. Yes. Honestly, it reminds me a lot of when you went back and watched tape of Deshaun Jackson.

when he was drafted out of California and came into the league and people questioned the size of the guy. And then you go, wait a second, that's electricity on the field. He's going to turn at three or four yard looking play into a big time touchdown. That's what Antonio Gibson looks like to me. And because of the fact that there aren't a lot of weapons in this offense that we know beyond Terry McLaurant, there is opportunity there for touches to be manufactured. I still think they're going to try to protect Dwayne Haskins.

whether it's Darius Geis or other pieces of this offense, you know, of the backfield, I mean. I think they're going to be conservative, but I think it's not all bad in Washington. Yeah, there's there are rooms. There's rooms. There are rooms available. You're done. There's, there's, there's room for a breakout. But for the most part, I.