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But I don't blame anyone for taking Sanders there. You talk about last season it was the opportunity around him, the injuries around him, you know, Jordan Howard going down and all these other players. Their issues are what caused Miles Sanders to be used in a three-down capacity. But that's the situation we're heading into the year with. All right. Right. Like it's him and Boston Scott. So he's going to get the work. It doesn't even matter if it's in.

Doug Peterson's DNA. If Doug Peterson is like, no, we're a committee back, it's still going to be a heavy timeshare advantage to Miles Sanders because they don't have the roster. You know, it's Cory Clement might make the roster or Chris Warren. Like these guys are not eating into the volume. My issue is I do not think that the targets that were there at the end of the year, you know, you said he was, you know, high running back three or something. I think that was full PPR. Half PPR, he was like the running back nine. Okay.

All of the wide receivers that went down to injury, and they're throwing to Greg Ward, that was when you had an 88 target pace for Miles Sanders. I don't have him with that many receptions. But I do think he's going to get 225 carries, and that's enough because he's talented. So I don't think that his floor is as low as, you know, you talk about the range of outcomes. I think he's actually pretty safe. Well, and players improve.

I mean, I think the reason that his draft capital is where it's at is people are trying to find the next Christian McCaffrey, the guy that can make the additional leap into being a dual threat, top five fantasy type of player. I don't know if I buy that for this season, but coming into the league, I mean, Miles Sanders, in the shadow of Saquan Barclay out of Penn State, dynamic player, he came along quickly in his rookie season.

But you're paying a high price. Carson Wentz being drafted as the QB9 right now. He dealt with the zero wide receiver situation in a big way. I just don't even know how to feel about Carson Wentz. Like he's, it's fine. I love Carson Wentz. You love him? I do. I think he's a phenomenal quarterback. Like, in real life, I think he's great. For fantasy, he's always been very good at the end of last year.

you were very disappointed. At the, you know, the second half of- Were you ever really happy last year? Oh, certainly. Yeah. I mean, you look at the first, if you remember how- I remember the front run and he was just like always on the edge of being a top 10 quarterback. Yeah, that's, he was always inside being a top 10 quarterback. He was a top 10 quarterback. But I mean, that's, and that's keeping you afloat. You need to have that, but.

That's not winning you anything. That's just not losing you anything. Well, but as a late round quarterback drafter, I think if I can guarantee my guy every week as a top 10 quarterback, I am super happy to have, last year, the first six games, five of those first six games, he was a top 10 quarterback. The thing with Carson wins to me is what made him an MVP candidate, both for fantasy and for NFL purposes, was he was able to combine some of that big playability with,

his legs. He was able to run and supplement his fantasy stats through the air, that hyper-efficient year with the ability to scramble and to get downfield and get you some of those, you know, all-too-val quarterback rushing yardage. He may start this year developing a rapport with Jaden Rager without Alshon Jeffrey, relying on Zachertz again, which, you know, has its pluses and minuses. Sure, you have a guy that you can throw the ball to a lot, but Zachertz is not a downfield type of tight-in. He's a consistency tight-end.

You don't know what you have in Marquis Goodwin. Maybe Miles Sanders gives you that upside. I guess I'm just waiting because of what this recipe has been for Philadelphia over the past couple of years with the injuries. I don't know if I'm in on Carson Wentz at the QB9 position, Mike. Do you like him at the end of the eighth round? Yeah, I'm fine. I guess do you see the upside? Do you think that the upside is still there for Carson Wentz to be a top five quarterback? That's a good question.

I guess it does exist. It's just so wild of his weapons is wide receivers. They're not even being drafted as top 50 wide receivers. Rager, who's 52, he's the first one. We don't even know if he's going to start week one. Deshawn Jackson continues to be the best value at the wide receiver position for this team and pretty much in fantasy football.

Are you drafting any of the wideouts? I mean, but like D. Jacks late, but anybody else? No, I think it's D. Jacks and, I mean, depending on Alshan Jeffrey's health, if he, you know, starts the year not on the pup, then he might be a good value. But it's not just the wide receivers here. You've got the Goddard, Ertz, tight-in, trifect. And you've got two running backs, Boss and Scott and Miles Sanders, who can catch the ball. So as a team, I think they are a good receiving team, even though the wide receiver core is.

murky at best. But they were 11th in passing yards per game despite all of the shortcomings, despite Lane Johnson's injury, despite the wide receivers. So that's where, you know, taking a gamble on a pass catcher outside of Zach Ertz seems like a wise thing to do if you can identify which player it is. And you have to throw JJ Arthega Whiteside back into the mix. Yeah, and Greg Ward. He could legitimately, Arthega Whiteside could start as the X. Yes, yeah, I totally agree. You could be looking at Whiteside and D.J.X as the two starters.

So Dijax is that pick for me. I guess to just put that on the board. He still is for me, too. He has to, when he's on the field, he's been great. I believe he was like 8% of their touchdowns last year. Having played one week. Yeah. Technically, too, but really one actual game. Okay. Are there question marks around Ertz and Goddard we need to discuss? I mean, we've talked about them. He's just, I'm not drafting Hertz. Tighten four right now, fifth round pick. Yeah.

I have such a hard time drafting. A lot of him and hon during the eagle chatter today. Right. Yeah. I have a lot of, I have a hard time drafting a middle round tight end. Like a fifth round tight end just almost always fails. But here, if Ertz keeps dropping, you know, he was, he was obviously in the conversation with, with Kittle and Kelsey as the third. And now Mark Andrews has really taken that over.

You could have him dropping to a value because I always talk about I want guys who get off to a hot start. And if Alshan is on the pup, then Ertz is going to get off to a strong beginning of the year. He's still just, what, 29 years old, 30 years old. And I think last year, a little bit of the feeling you had was he went from that 11.008 year down to, oh, dear, 88 receptions at the tight-in position for 916 and 6. Yeah.

So he is slipping down to where he's more reasonable at your tight end position, fifth round. We'll see. All right, the Dallas Cowboys, eight and eight. They went an undesirable one in six in one-score games. Ugh. That's gross. But you know how you fix that, right? Mike McCarthy. Mike McCarthy. Wizard. Yes. And goodbye, Jason Garrett. Hello, Mike McCarthy.

They underperform last year. This was not what we expected. We thought they'd potentially run away with that division, especially after the injuries that the Eagles suffered. Fifth in rushing yards per game. Second and passing yards per game. That was the significant bullet point from the Dallas Cowboys offense last year. Kellen Moore, who has stayed in place as the offensive coordinator, still there, transformed this offense, put more on Dak Prescott, and Dak did a lot with it. Yeah, Dak was fantastic. Last year,

He had the third most deep completions while being tied for fourth in adjusted deep completion percentage. So he was going down the field, and he was very successful, tied with, he had 11 deep touchdowns. That's tied for second among the quarterback position. A deck was very, very good. And he was very, very good at going deep. And this is the one kind of thing I will say during this segment about Amari Cooper. Oh, I want to hear it. The toughest stretch for fantasy was,

pretty lined up when Amari Cooper got hurt. And when Amari Cooper disappeared off the face of the map, like week 12 through 16, that's when Dak struggled at least a little bit. In other words, he likes him. I have a fun game about Amari Cooper. Oh, no. All right. Let's have it. By the way, real quick question, before you play your game, do you think that Russell Wilson looks at the difference between Dak two years ago and Dak last year and shows that template?

to his general manager and to his head coach. Oh, he should. Because of the, you know, DAC had averaged like 492 pass attempts, jumped up to 596. You've got this let Russ Cook kind of hashtag out there. If let Russell Wilson run this offense the way he wants to. If Russell Wilson could be unleashed. We've wondered. We probably will be wondering until the end of time as well. You don't think they're going to let it have? No, they won't. We'll talk about that eventually. All right. Let's play a game. Oh, all right.

We're going to play a little game called Amari Cooper or Marvin Jones. Welcome to the game, Marvin Jones. And now, and look, this shout out Kyle the Borgogan. He's the one he's like, we got to play another game. And so he brought me some numbers. All right. Over the past couple years, so the 2017 to the 2019 season, that's the time range we're talking about. 17 to 19? Yes. Okay. All right. I'm dialed in. Receiving yards per game.

Is it Amari Cooper who's averaging more? Is it Amari Cooper or Marvin Jones? These games aren't fair fights. There's not fair fights. I will go Marvin Jones. Yeah. Oh, no, it's actually Mari Cooper. See, I had to start. You sneaky snook. I had to start jumping that one. All right. Yards per reception. Who's making the big play happen? That one I would. That's got to be Marvin. Genuinely say Marvin Jones. Oh, it is Marvin Jones. Excellent work. Everybody.

Touchdowns, receiving touchdowns. Amari Cooper or Marvin Jones. Well, that's got to be Marvin Jones now, doesn't it? I'm going to go Marvin Jones. It is, in fact, Marvin Jones, who has 23 compared to Amari Cooper's 22. Top 12 weeks. Amari Cooper or Marvin Jones. In the past couple of years, more top 12 weeks.

Now, one thing we know about Marvin Jones, despite how much of a value he always seems to be, is he is inconsistent. That's also been talked about with Amari Cooper, Andy. All right. I think he's setting us up for the triple Marvin knockdown here. It's Amari Cooper. He's got 11 compared to, oh, there we go. Eleven compared to Marvin Jones 10. We got two more.

Two more. And the last one is really a doozy that explains a lot of things. Okay. Top 24 weeks. Top 24 weeks. Amari Cooper or Marvin Jones. I would still guess Cooper if I'm being honest. Okay. I feel like you're going Jones, but I would assume that Amari Cooper has had more top 24 weeks. I'm not playing anymore. My answer is Marvin Jones. All right. Look, it's, it's Amari Cooper. He's had 16 to Marvin Jones 14. Okay.

But now here's where those stats become really fun. Missed games. Who's missed more games? I guess it's. It's Marvin Jones at 10 compared to Amari Cooper's three. So seven extra games to be a top 12 wide receiver one more time and a top 24 receiver two more times than Marvin Jones. Thank you for playing.

Everybody, this game, this edition of Amari Cooper versus Marvin Jones. Yeah, and Marvin Jones's award for participating is that he is a value in our ultimate draft game. Can I ask you this question? Over the last seven games when Amari Cooper was injured last year, how many of those games did he miss? None. That is correct. So.

I take those as injured games because he was hobbled. I think he just called Marvin Jones Soft. That's what I think he just on the field. Okay. Then I will come back and say, how many of those games were you still playing Amari Cooper in your fantasy football lineup? Probably about half of them. And were you happy about? Probably about half of them. I'll leave you alone, Amari. We did get to a point last year where we talked about he's hobbled and I'm not sure if you can start him or not.

But I want to remind people the first 10 weeks before that injury, Amari Cooper was the wide receiver three behind only Michael Thomas and, shockingly, Mike Evans. You know, Amari Cooper was the clear cut number one, then was injured and hobbled and absolutely sucked the rest of the season. Now, he's done this his whole career. Be great half the season, suck half the season. Mike, I think you are on point in.

being fine, avoiding taking your loss if you're wrong on Cooper, but wanting to avoid the risk and the historical output that his inconsistency has provided, I am willing to take the risk on Amari Cooper this year based on what I saw for the first two-thirds of the season before an injury and $100 million given to him. I think one interesting comparison for Amari Cooper might be the way we think about Tyree Kill and the expectations we have on Tyreek kind of changed. We know that Tyreek has.