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LIVE Mock Draft + Confusing Players

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Who is the best running back that you would pick right here, Mike? Is it Jai Ajai of the remaining running back? He is who I would hope. I'm with Jason. I would take Dog Baldwin here. I would play the game and hope that Ajai or maybe Lamar Miller comes back. I don't think they will, but we'll find out because this is about where Aaron Rogers goes. And we lost the bet again. If you're watching on YouTube, you got to see that. Feeling.

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Aaron Rogers, Amari Cooper, Lamar Miller, Kenyon Drake, and... What's going on here? Once again, right before us, Jay Ajai. Look, this is good. This is good for the listener. No, this is horse patootie. They need to see us... There's a reason why running backs... They need to see us squirm a little, Mike. Yes, there's a reason why this year running backs, if you don't take two early running backs, it gets really hard. You might end up in this situation. They deplete very fast, and right now it's like 80% of these first three rounds.

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are the running backs. It's absurd. And so a lot of times you want to zig when the whole league is zagging and take advantage. Like Doug Baldwin is taking advantage that he shouldn't have been there. But there is a limit where you run out of serviceable quality running backs. And now we're up to our fourth pick. We only have Melvin Gordon running back. There's still a, there's still a quality. Marshaun Lynch is the player that I want here. Yes.

28:48 ↗

Ingram's on the board. Lynch. Carry on Johnson. Obviously with Ingram, you have to wait for a four-game suspension for him to return to New Orleans. You got Dionne Lewis, somebody that I am rising on a little bit more in Tennessee. They spent money to bring him in. You got Rex Burkett, who'll be a nice, at a minimum, a nice top of the season type of guy. I mentioned there's two running backs here that I would take, and it's Marshaun Lynch and sexy Rexey Berger. All right, my vote is Lynch. What do you say, Jason? It doesn't matter because we have two thirds. That's fair.

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That's when you just say, oh, obviously it was Lynch. Obviously it was Lynch. We took Marshaun Lynch. Travis Kelsey went next. Juju. Deshawn Watson, Brandon Cooks, Zach Ertz. Ingram, one of the harder players to rank as well. Yes. Jarvis Landry, blessing him in the fourth round. 11th pick. I like that pick. Chris Hogan, and then you come around to the fifth round. Jimmy Graham went off the board. Fitz, Goodwin, Gordon. What do you think of Goodwin going ahead of Tate?

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Gordon, Demarius, Thomas, and Alan Robinson. You know what I think. I know exactly what you think. In front of... That is correct. Yeah, in front of Demarius Thomas and Alan Robinson. But like we talked about on the show yesterday, Alan Robinson, it's his 1,414 touchdown back with the Jacksonville Jaguars. That feels like a dream. You woke up in the middle of it, and you just...

30:15 ↗

It's so fragmented that you can barely even see a picture of what he did and how awesome he was. But you get up and you look in your journal and you scribbled some numbers down in the middle of the night and they were like 1,400 yards and you're like, wow, he can do that? Yeah. But here's what I'm saying. But can he? He's gone. And here we are. We're in the fifth round. We've got two wide outs, two running backs.

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Gordon, Allen, Baldwin, and Lynch. And now we have benefited from the running back heavy beginning. 10 wide receivers and only two running backs off the board after our Lynch pick. Dionne Lewis still on the board. Love it. Love the idea of picking up Dionne Lewis here. And Rex Burkhead still on the board. And Rex Burkhead still on the board. Either one I'm fine with, I'm very...

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firmly in the running back camp here. The wide receivers, you can still go Corey Davis or Marvin Jones, Alshan Jeffrey. There's more depth at the wide receiver position later. I think I would jump into the running backs. Who's your vote? You also have Carlos Hyde, Chris Carson, Rashad Penny, Ronald Jones, etc. We're both in agreement that it is firmly running back here, especially based on, this is where you have to take your team into account. So Marshaun Lynch, a little bit older, Melvin Gordon, they're okay. But our Keenan and Doug Baldwin stack,

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Our wide receivers are fine. And like you said, Andy, you can draft wide receivers for days. I mean, go to the 10th round, the 11th round, the 12th round. There's wide receivers I love. Not a lot of running backs there that I'm like, oh, man, I just really have to have this guy. So I think we agree also between Lewis and Burkett. Yes. Is that fair? Yeah, absolutely. Or would you have somebody else at attention? Oh, it's between the two of them? For us, for the team that you're a part of right now?

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Yeah, well, I thought the pick was Rex Burkett. I had already moved on to the next round. I would personally pick Dionne Lewis over Rex. As would I. Oh, two-thirds! Get body! Oh, no, I knew it was going to happen. I thought you said you knew we already took Rex Burkett. No, in my head we had already taken Rex Burkhead, but I knew that you buffoons would take Dionne Lewis instead of Burkhead. That's a very strong language for players similarly ranked, Mike.

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Yeah, it is. All right. Dionne Lewis, we took him because of two-thirds vote. Rex Burkhead, Corey Davis, Tom Brady, Greg Olson, Carlos Hyde, and Marvin Jones, the next six off the board. This show would never work with four people. You have to have an uneven vote. Well, the judge is here. So, I mean, he could, the judge Giamati could overrule in one direction. But, you know.

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We don't ask his opinion very often, though. That's true. That's true. And if you're new to the footballers, you're listening to this. Who would you have taken there, Brooks? Who would you have taken? That's a great question. Would you have taken Dionne Lewis of Rex Burkette according to the secret Judge Diomati rankings? Yeah. No, it's fine. This is fine. What I was going to bring up is if you're new to the fantasy footballers, you just found us, you're listening.

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prepping for your show, you might go, why aren't they... For their show? For their draft. The show is what we call the draft. When you're going to the draft, that's the show. But they might be questioning, why aren't we talking about quarterbacks? We haven't even brought up the potential of looking at a quarterback or at a tight end. Someone cared to explain why... Look, Russell Wilson is still on the clock here in the sixth round. I'm still on the draft board here in the sixth round.

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we've had Brady, Rogers, Deshaun Watson go. We believe in maximizing the value you can find at the running back in the wide receiver position early in the draft because every team starts one quarterback and they have to start more running backs and wide receivers than they do quarterback in tight in. That's the philosophy. It's maximizing the value you find at the positions you have to play more of.

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More often than not, that means waiting. I mean, I mean way more often than not. That means waiting late until you drafts a replaceable position. You can get somebody in the 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th round at quarterback that can produce at an upper echelon level. You can find guys off the waiver wire because there's 12, 14 teams in your league, and there are 30 to 40 quarterbacks that can put up week one type of numbers. Over the course of the season, over 40 quarterbacks will post a top 12 finish at a.

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on the week and you can predict those you can find them you it's all about playing the matchup so no temptation with with russell wilson no no none here so jason why don't you take uh take the baton tell us what you're thinking about with this sixth pick we've got three running backs now i feel like we've shored that position up immensely after going wide receiver wide receiver

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Yes, we have done well there. This is where, you know, the sixth round, because we're nearer to a turn, I always look and I say, okay, our seventh round pick is it early? Is it late? Will we be able to get someone like Trey Burton to come back to us? I don't know if we will or not, so I would maybe think about it here if there wasn't another player that I liked, but I believe there are still wide receivers on the board that can shore up our team, help us more. If we miss out on someone like Trey Burton at the tight-in position, I'm fine.

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Personally, you've got a couple guys. Al Sean and Julian Edelman. Julian Edelman, Emmanuel Sanders. Those three guys are, I think in the sixth round, a really good value to help a team out. Wow, really? I feel like I'm the only person who's wanted to draft Julian Edelman with his four-game suspension.

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Yeah, I mean, I... I have them much higher than Sanders. I don't want to consider Sanders here. I'd consider Edelman and Jeffrey well above them. I would prefer to not have Edelman and deal with a bench spot that does, you know, that you can't make a transaction from. You can't go into week one after the games play and say, oh, I've got to make a bit on this guy. Who am I going to drop? I've got to drop someone else from my bench. The same could be... Sorry, the same could be said for Al Sean. You're...

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You're being held ransom right now. You don't know if Alshan's going to start the year on the pub. I agree with that. Let me ask you this, though. Any chance you want to take a home run shot on either Rashad Pini or Sony Michelle here? Because in hindsight, we could have gone Burkhead, come back and got Michelle and had those two backfield pieces, but then you're wasting two picks on a difficult to predict backfield. Personally, I would not have wanted to do that. And I think if I'm going in on the gamble for Sony Michelle, I'm not going to do it right here. I'm going to wait.

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Trey Boo-boo, if that's the target. If we want to look at Trey Burton, Adam Shaheen, the other tight-in in Chicago, he's banged up. Burton, a lot of press lately. Oh, you could break the yardage record for the tight-in position in Chicago. Say whatever you want. You follow the money. Trey Bird got paid a lot to come in and beat Travis Kelsey in that Matt Nagy offense. I love targeting him.

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I would like to play the game, though, and see if he comes back to us in the seventh round. Right now there are four quality tight-ins on the board. Evan Ingram, Kyle Rudolph, Delaney Walker, and Trey Burton. So I'm fine. Rolling the dice and see if one of those four guys gets back to us. There are also five that have been drafted. So unless other teams prioritize tight-in right here right now, there's a chance he comes back. So it's between Jeffrey and Edelman. Who's your vote? I would vote. I would vote Al-Shan. I would as well.

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Yeah, that's fine. I think he will absolutely be their week one. And we have the luxury of not needing him week one if that happened. Let's see he doesn't go on. Here's what I mean, though. I'm saying he may not go on the pup, but he may be limited or not be a startable asset in week one is my point. Yeah, it's just, it's a lot. You know Julian Edelman, you know he's gone for four weeks. You're planning to be without Julian Edelman for four weeks. I'd rather not do that. With Alshund, you just.

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don't know what to plan for. Yeah, but I would rather the situation where I don't know what's planned for, but odds are I'm not without him for six weeks. And this is why you're getting Alshan in the sixth round. I mean, if you didn't have any worry, then Alshan's in the fourth round and you're not getting a value. All right. We took a chance on Trey Boo-boo, and it's paid off, gentlemen. Crabtree went after him, and here's where not drafting a quarterback early helps.

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Because a lot of picks have now been used up on quarterbacks in these next, the rest of the sixth round, through the seventh round until our next pick. Breeze, Wilson, Newton, wins, and luck all went. You also had Watkins dropping all the way to 705 in this draft. What do you think of Watkins going so far behind Tyreek Hill? It's like the gap has widened again.

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In the beginning of the offseason, Hill was going about four rounds higher than Watkins. Then it closed up. A lot of hype around Watkins. Now it's opened up again. Hill and third, Watkins in the seventh. Is this a steal of a pick potentially with Watkins? Potentially, of course. It's like we could have taken him. It's a confidence level, though. They've just shown you nothing throughout the preseason of Patrick Mahomes connecting and finding and heavily utilizing Sammy Watkins.

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All right, well, here we are on the clock. Now, we could take Trey Burton, but I'm going to give you an alternate idea. Okay. We only got to wait six picks, and Evan Ingram and Delaney Walker are still on the board. Most people have Evan Ingram ahead of burden. Here's how... A lot of people have Walker ahead of burden, and we could roll the dice. I think you should, because what you do is when you're here, you look at the three teams between you. There's three teams that are picking. They each pick twice.

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One of them has a tight end already. Yes. So if the other two, both draft a tight end, you get the third one of, you know, essentially three good guys. Yeah, the edge man's going to double up. Yeah, I mean, that could happen. Double up on tight end. I mean, you always got to know your league, right? If you've got, if at that edge is that dumb guy in your league that just loves doubling up on tight ends to stick it to you. Well, let's ask the question, though, what's the advantage? Do you, is there a player that's just...

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You have to have right now. Is it Robbie Anderson? He's still on the board of Manuel Sanders, Jordan Nelson, Randall Cobb. At the running back position, you could go grab Isaiah Crowell, another starter for your roster. Peyton Barber, Peyton-Barrell, Jamal Williams, those three guys are interesting to me. I also love Emmanuel Sanders in the seventh. Crowell or Sanders, if you're here looking at our team, we have three of each, Gordon, Lynch, and Lewis at running back.

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