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Week 13 Matchups + Wheel of Shame, Slush Factory - Fantasy Football Podcast for 12/3

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Week 13 Matchups + Wheel of Shame, Slush Factory - Fantasy Football Podcast for 12/3

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Outside the top 30 at the position. Yeah, I mean, that's still, but a wide receiver three is a, that is a very playable. What I'm saying is like if everything goes right, I think you get a wide receiver three. Sure. But yeah, Brandon Cooks, he so you're going to get a wide receiver three. Got it. Brandon Cooks is in for me. The Colts just, they don't generate a ton of pressure. And Cooks, even though they put up three points, the Houston Texans on the Colts when they played last time, Brandon Cook still had himself a fine game for fantasy.

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The Washington football team at 5 and 6 takes on the Las Vegas Raiders at 6 and 5. The sportsbook line here, Raiders 1.5 point home favorites. Overrunners, 49 points. Both teams, you know, coming off a victory, right? And the Raiders got by Dallas on Thanksgiving. Washington's won three in a row. Their defense, it's improved since what we saw in the beginning of the year, especially against running backs.

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So we could start there in this discussion, Mike. Josh Jacobs, only one bus game on the year, only one top 10 game on the year. Josh Jacobs is just pedestrian? This matchup is terrifying against Washington here. Josh Jacobs has, he has gotten it done. We finally saw a huge opportunity game. 26 opportunities on Thanksgiving against Dallas. He had not seen 20.

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opportunity since week five because he keeps leaving the game hobbled. Now, again, only one bus game, but I am playing him as a running back to, but we were, you know, we were discussing on the Spotify Green Room, who's a player you're afraid to bench? Because you feel like the process and everything, like all the outside numbers are telling you that you should not play this guy.

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But at the end, he's still Josh Jacobs, who will see a lot of work and will have a touchdown opportunity. Because I like Derek Carr a lot in this game, but that doesn't mean that all the touchdowns are going to go to Derek Carr in the passing game. They can very easily have, you know, Renfro dragged down on the four. And then Josh Jacobs gets a free touchdown and he's perfectly fine.

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Yeah, I mean, if he falls into the end zone, which can easily happen, you're going to be happy. Outside of that, I don't think you're going to be happy with Josh Jacobs this week. He was not on the injury report on Wednesday, was added to the injury report on Thursday. We know that- Classic Josh Jacobs. Right. We know that that's kind of been a nagging issue for him. So to me, against a much more improved Washington football defense.

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If there's a different option, a pivot guy, you know, you picked up Alexander Madison, and so it moves Josh. Oh, that'd be an easy. Well, that's easy. I'm just saying it moves Josh Jacobs down to a flex consideration, and you could throw in a good wide receiver. I would rather do that over a Josh Jacobs. It is a revenge game for DeShon Jackson. He had a big week last week. Are you dart throwing with DeShon Jackson? Would you play him or T.Y. Houston? Can't ask me. Man. I'm living in T. Y. Houston.

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He didn't practice on Thursday. We're talking about Deshawn Jackson. We're hearing it's a calf spasm. It's probably enough to get me out on Deshaun Jackson. I think that is enough to get me out as well. Hunter Renfro, top 14 wide receiver in three of the last four weeks. You can flux Hunter Info. Absolutely. A good start in a full PPR. And Derek Carr is... Send in the car. Yep. Send in the car. Mike likes him. And, you know, I think that the...

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The Vegas line was a little surprising to me, I guess, with the trend of Washington. So the fact that, I don't know, I thought maybe it would be a pickum game or Washington might have a point here. So one and a half Raiders being favored by D.K. So, I mean, it's close. Yeah. And they're in Vegas. So it's not, I don't think it's too crazy. All right. What about the other side? I mean, just real quick for the Raiders.

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Darren Waller, not practicing. Oh, yeah. I can't imagine that Darren Waller is in. And I am going to, I'm more than willing to play Foster Moreau. He is a actual good player. He just, he had Darren Waller, Waller pop up, and Darren Waller is elite. So, yes, Waller plays over him. But Foster Moreau, when Waller has been out, he has been more than serviceable. Foster Monroe or Mike Gasicki. Oh, man.

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I thought I picked the right name. That is a perfect line right there. And I'm sure my rankings don't say it right now, but I think I'd play Morrow. I lean that way as well. Logan Thomas or Foster Morrow? Logan Thomas. Logan Thomas is a great play. Yeah, Mike started the week. That was a trick question. Just my way to get to the other side of the game. Oh, what a professional. Taylor Heineke, Antonio Gibson, Terry McLaren and Company. Logan Thomas, Mike started the week of tight end. Yes. You know, McLaurin is always in your lineup. Gibson.

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I was just looking at total opportunities at the running back position, and there's been so much tumult, injuries, J.D. McKissick, off games, but you are getting the recipe for success for Antonio Gibson in the past three weeks, which is victory. I mean, he is very much, like Josh Jacobs on the other side, where if you're in a favorable game, they're not afraid to give Antonio Gibson a million touches. It's just connected to the equation. And with J.D. McKissick's injury,

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You know, he should be back. But again, Antonio Gibson seems like a really, really strong play in the year, and that's not how things were trending in the beginning of the season. Yeah, and I do expect, the way that I see this game going is I think Washington football team is the better play. I think they will be up. I think they'll win. But you have no idea when it comes to the Raiders. I mean, the Raiders could win by 30, lose by 30 in this matchup.

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But I think the Washington football team has them a little bit outclass here. J.D. McKissick is still not practicing. He's in concussion protocol. You think I'll miss? Yeah. If you're not playing, if you're doing nothing on Thursday, you've got to be trending to be out, at least just the way that I'm looking at this historically. Antonio Gibson is going to, he's in a very good position here with seven receptions just this last week. And that wasn't.

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That was not only reception work after McKissick suffered his injury. They were already involving him in that. It didn't turn into a whole lot of yardage, but half point or full point PPR scoring, several receptions, that's just to juice the line that he already put up on the ground, which was over 100 rushing yards.

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He has a very strong play this week. He's going to get all the work, and the Raiders really struggle against the run. He was the number five running back last week, number six in week 10 against Tampa. It's lining up very well for Antonio Gibson to really, if he didn't endear you to him during the first half of the year, he might win you a title. Jacksonville at 2 and 9 take on the, they take on the Los Angeles Rams at 7 and 4.

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The Draft King Sportsbook line here, Rams minus 12 and a half at home. The overrunners 48 points, but that only gives the Jacksonville Jaguars 17.8 and the Rams over 30. So this is not an extremely complicated game to sift through from the Rams side. Stafford and Cup are locks. You know, Van Jefferson, if Odell Beckham sits, Van Jefferson, you're going to get 10 targets, most likely in this game, and he should be solid.

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Yeah, Jefferson is, he's still in for me, even if Beckham plays as a lower end flex. Darrell Henderson did not practice Thursday. Still, on Wednesday, McVeigh anticipated him, you know, back out there. But if he's not, Sonny Michelle is a really strong start. If he's back out there. Henderson's a good start if he's playing. Is that where you? Yeah.

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Yeah, I'm not afraid of it. I was saying Michelle's a good start if Henderson's out, but if Henderson's in, you need to play him and not Michelle. Agreed. Whoever the starter is here, I think, is a top 15 running back. O'Dell Beckham talked about it earlier. Status up in the air. If he's back in your lineup, it's a great matchup that you don't really want to miss out on, so I think you have to play him. Yeah, he was originally in my Draft King's lineup that were revealing here in a few minutes, but I had to pull him because of the uncertainty.

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Well, let's get less positive here. Leviska-Schnellt, since 2005, Leviska has the seventh lowest fantasy points ever for a wide receiver with 70 targets through 11 games. So that is a, that is an indictment on Trevor Lawrence to some degree. When the targets, you know, you know, there's a difference between a quality target and a not quality target. So that's part of it. But, you know, he had nine targets in the first post-Gamal Agnew game and he finishes the wide receiver 51. So are you?

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Just fully avoiding the wide receiver room here. Yeah, I don't think there's anybody that you can trust in the wide receiver room at all. And what about the Irish muller here? James Osce. James O'Shaughnessy. Yeah, come on. He's back, baby. With the week one. Five targets last week for. The week one wonder, James O'Shaughnessy, he was a player who got highlighted because after week one against Houston, he had eight targets. And he was.

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One of those players where it was, okay, we now have the information of week one. Which tight ends are actually seeing volume? Who's getting a, who has a high percentage of targets per route run? And James O'Shaughnessy was way up there and then follows that up with a week to 24-yard reception and went down immediately with an injury at the beginning of that game. That trend continued.

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As Jacksonville went out and they traded for Dan Arnold, the postman, the postman came in to a bunch of targets. Now, unfortunately, he is now on the IR. No mail for six weeks. Yeah, yeah, he's, the mail room is closed. But O'Shaughnessy is back. And honestly, as a desperation streaming tight end, if I'm going Foster Moreau way over James O'Shaughnessy. I don't see them very different. I personally do just of trusting Derek Carr.

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And that offense running through the tight end a little bit more. But O'Shaughnessy is in, he's in play. The Rams over the last six weeks, 25th against fantasy tight ends. Marvin Jones only one top 36 games. Yeah, I'm out, man. And then the James Robinson situation, if he's in, you play him. If he's out, Carlos Hyde is scary as. Yeah, he's scary, but Carlos Hyde is, like, people are picking up Rex Burkhead and playing him. I would play Carlos Hyde over Berkhead. I would not.

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I would play someone other than those two. I mean, if you sometimes, there's not a choice. I went back and looked at the game logs this morning because I was considering picking up Carlos Hyde. I was like, I don't want him. I don't think he's going to do anything in this game. He'll get the ball a lot because it was the Buffalo game that he was the one and only and that turned into 23 opportunities. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it wasn't pretty.

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No, because Rex Burkhead gets a lot. It's a lot, too. Anything else in this game you want to talk about? Three straight losses for the Rams are the Jacksonville's the South. That's the Southkin jokes, Mike. You don't got anything else here? No, no, I was just, I'm. That's a one-timer. I was thinking, oh, man, if the Rams loose. The Ravens at 8 and 3 taking on the 5-5-1 Pittsburgh Steelers. This is a fun game in Pittsburgh.

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Baltimore, four and a half point road favorites. It's the first time Baltimore has been favored in Pittsburgh versus Big Ben Rutherlandish. I was going to ask the question. Like that seems outlandish. Like that has not happened in any time that I can remember. Over under is only 44 points in this game. And I buy that. You know, we've seen Baltimore come out and just, you know, Mike, you had a first-hand seat last week.

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to just struggles on offense. They figure things out. They win the ball game, but it's not always pretty. And listen to this. Baltimore, the number one seat in the AFC, has scored 10, 16, and 16 points in the last three games. Gross. You're in Pittsburgh? I'm in on the under on this one. I think this may be the... Yeah, I don't blame you.

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game of kickers or something of that nature. An insane stat here that I just went and I had to vet it because Kyle's the one who got this, but Lamar Jackson, in his career starts against Pittsburgh, seven turnovers, but it's two career starts. Lamar Jackson, just the way it has worked out, like, that's true. He's only started against Pittsburgh twice, which is a, which is.

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Crazy. Four turnovers last week by Lamar. All targeting Mark Andrews, who is obviously in your lineup. I'm still playing Lamar Jackson and I'm playing him with full confidence. Okay. Unless you need him to get you the win. Yes, which I don't anymore. So he will have him a fine game.

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