helps Keenan Allen when it comes to getting just a few more targets, maybe one to two more targets per game. Red zone utilization too. Of course with that as well. Keenan Allen is a monster. Keenan Allen is the next, in my opinion, Keenan Allen is the next version of Antonio Brown. I do think that it will be interesting to see the dynamic. I know that's a hot tape. You scorched my face. That was just glossed over. Yeah, I.
Top 10 Wide Receivers + Guice Reactions, Wobbly Tables
Top 10 Wide Receivers + Guice Reactions, Wobbly Tables
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131 passagesI've also heard you say that about Stefan Diggs in the last year. Yeah, well, that's what I mean. Keenan Allen and Stefan Diggs. They are the next guys that will take over the mantle of... They're outrunning monsters. Yes. They are gamers. They work hard. I think Mike Williams will be interesting this year. I think that that will be an interesting thing to see in the red zone. Because between Melvin Gordon and Mike Williams, I think that...
Keenan Allen could be in a very Jarvis Landry red zone situation. It could be... Which was last year was great. It was. But historically, it's four to seven touchdowns, which is fine. I mean, with 102 receptions, you're happy. I don't think that number goes up. Like, if you gave me an over under of six touchdowns for Keenan Allen, I would push it or I take the under. Yeah, I think that's fair. The only other thing I'll say, which isn't even on Keenan Allen, just based on what you said, man, I forgot how big Mike Williams was. He's enormous. He was out there, and it's like,
Who's that tight end? Mike Williams look good. I have him. I need to move him. I have him in my rankings with 10 touchdowns. Wow. That's one of my bold predictions in the article coming out. I have 10 touchdowns for Mike Williams. Look, I would have made fun of you before that game. I mean, they utilize the tight end and he is one. He's enormous. Number six. Michael Thomas. Michael Thomas. Thank you.
Mike 5, Jason 6, I'm at 7. He comes in at 6 on our consensus rankings right now going a pick ahead of Keenan Allen in most fantasy drafts. Last season, 104 receptions for 1,245 yards and 5 touchdowns. His numbers are almost identical to Keenan Allen's in a lot of ways. I mean, he was over 100 receptions. They both had, you know, middle touchdowns, 5, 6 touchdowns. Targets were about the same. He's reliable. Yes. That's the...
the name of the game for Michael Thomas. He's very, very reliable. Was his reliability a product of not having other intermediate weapons on this roster where you have a guy like Ted Ginnu can stretch the field, you have your running backs, but you didn't have another guy in the middle of the field that you could rely on? Would Breeze have preferred to distribute the ball a little bit more evenly to the whiteouts?
Go ahead, Jay. Yeah, I mean, I would say a little bit, yes. We've seen, he obviously has utilized people like that in the past, really sneed. With Cameron Meredith being there now, that's great. But also in the past, he has usually relied on a primary target. And that is Michael Thomas. I think Michael Thomas is tried, true, reliable. The upside of Michael Thomas is this. You have a guy who is the clear-cut wide receiver one on a good team for a Hall of Fame quarterback.
He's got touchdown upside. You know, if you look at his rookie season and what didn't happen last year, we've talked a lot about Drew Breeze should be throwing a few more touchdowns this year than what he did last year just based on metrics. The downside would be he was everything last year. You know, Ted Ginn's lost a step. Now they bring in, you know, another fast rookie to challenge that and Cameron Meredith. So maybe. Did you say, you said Ann Cameron Meredith? Yes. Okay.
Traquan Smith is the rookie. Right. So who's more likely to finish outside the top 15? Michael Thomas or Keenan Allen? Keenan Allen. Interesting. I would say it's Michael Thomas. But Keel and Allen's ceiling to me, Keenan could finish number one. I don't think Michael Thomas could. Okay. All right. We need to move on. Number seven. Devante Adams. Devante Adams somehow, some way.
I have Devante Adams at number six on my rankings. I don't blame you at all. In fact, I look at number nine. That's my ranking for him. And I go, that feels low. Last year, just 74 receptions for 885 yards, 10 touchdowns. He is just when you saw the quarterback play that Devante Adams was dealing with with Brett Hunley for the majority of the year. I know. To say that he just finished was 74 for 885.
Good for you, Devante. He was a magician. He's never had a thousand-yard season. It's true. I believe that was his career high in receptions. Is that true? No, he had one more reception than your prior, 75. So he's never had more than 75. All I'm doing is bringing that to the forefront and saying, Devante, you got here more on the merit of your quarterback than you did on your own merit. You do know.
How to get into the end zone regardless at all times. And I think Devante, I mean, if you just put him in a vacuum, I don't have him in my top 20 guys talent-wise. That's my own personal opinion about Devante. But you have Aaron Rogers. You don't have Jordy Nelson. And he was productive despite not having Aaron Rogers last year. He looked great in the preseason opener. So.
Devante Adams, he's at number seven. Aaron Rogers is going to get him there. He's one of those guys where if at the end of the season he doesn't have 10 touchdowns and he played the full season, I would just be shocked. What happened? I mean, it just seems impossible for Aaron Rogers to not throw 10 touchdowns season. He would have to bat the ball down in the end zone. Right. On purpose. Yeah. So, you know, and if you have 10 touchdowns as a wide receiver, you call that the Ebron. You're 100% going to be a wide receiver one. That's.
That's why I feel like, okay, at wide receiver 9, I feel like I've got him a little bit low because he has something that no one else out there has. He has Aaron Rogers with no real competition. I mean, you could say Jimmy Graham or Randall Cobb, but I mean, that's not hard competition to overcome for Devante Adams. All right. Number eight. AJ Green. I think some people, they want to move on from AJ Green.
He burned him last year. He had a down year. When he finished as the wide receiver 11. I know. I know.
But you're not being facetious. No, 75 for 1,000, just over 1,000 and 8 touchdowns. The people out there are mad at AJ Green. Well, he had, look, week 7, he was the 47th ranked whiteout. Week 9, he was the 92nd ranked whiteout. It's the 14 and 15. Week 14 and 15 playoff weeks, he disintegrated. That's when people get real mad. I think it's the combination, right? We've talked about this before. When you start this season poorly, that sticks with people. When you...
Or vice versa. If you end the season poorly or blow up in those fantasy playoffs, it sticks with you. Those were four of his worst weeks were week one, two, 14, and 15. You look at the weeks in between that. He had a, you know, what, five top 10 weekly finishes in that stretch. Was a wide receiver won over 30% of the time, was a one or two, 50% of the time, which is among the more consistent fantasy wide receivers. He is going.
At 208 right now. He's a great value. I've talked about I am more pro-Andy Dalton for this season than I think you two gentlemen are. I'm pretty much pro-Sincinnati. This is one of those teams I expect.
to have a lot more fantasy output this season than last season. They fired their coordinator after two weeks of ineptitude last year, let Bill Laser take over. Now he has a whole training camp. I think they've improved their offensive line a little bit, but that's going to make a big deal. John Ross coming in, so to me, I think this whole offense. Could be Tyler Boyd. Oh, absolutely. I'm just saying, I mean, Tyler Boyd was already.
on the field. I'm saying to take Brandon Lafell off, put John Ross, give you more speed, is going to help the offense. So AJ Green will get open. If you watched the first preseason game, AJ Green did not look like, oh, he's 30. He's lost the step. He was unbelievable. AJ Green is disintegrating DBs in camp. He's the same AJ Green right now. I made that decision when I invested in him in our dynasty league. I went out and traded a lot. A lot of futures for him. I traded.
Marvin Jones Jr. and a lot to get AJ Green because I believe AJ Green underperformed. I believe Marvin Jones overperformed and they basically finished back to back last year. Green is just a special, special talent. And he offers you the ability, like traditionally, AJ Green, he gives you like two games a year with three touchdowns or some type of 86-yard touchdown play where AJ Green does his thing. So I think we're all on board in believing in AJ's return this season.
Number nine. Number nine, Larry Fitzgerald. Now, he's 11 in my ranks, 11 in Jason's, eighth and Mike's. You're darn right. But you start to get into this category and moves him up. So he's number nine, 109 receptions last year, 1156 yards, six touchdowns. If Sam Bradford can stay healthy, Larry Fitzgerald is a locked and loaded top 12 wide receiver. 100%. That's where I was going to go with this. He was number five last year, by the way.
For the haters out through, we think we're homers, just because we mentioned Larry Fitzgerald's name. We haven't ranked 9. He was 5 last year. His past three season finishes at the wide receiver position, 9, 12, 5. Sam Bradford is a great quarterback when he plays football. If you caught the first couple drives of the Cardinals preseason game, they're going to be far better than people assumed.
with health. And this is not just a... You're saying if they're healthy, they'll be far better than people are saying. And this is not just a Sam Bradford health situation. This is the offensive line. If the five starters for the Cardinals can play 16, which again, that's a stretch too, but it does happen. You see teams where they just, they either get the injury bug or they don't and the teams that don't or the teams that end up in the playoffs in the Super Bowl. But they're...
their first team offense with David Johnson returning, they're going to be far better than people are giving them credit for. Yeah, I agree. One thing, though, that I think is important to point out because this has been two years in a row for Larry, and you can see it. I mean, we watch the games week and week out, and we're Cardinals fans. So, you know, we see what's going on here. We live in Phoenix.
His home road splits are something to monitor. Larry used to be the super consistent every single week, a ton of targets, touchdowns, whatever. He's just, you know, last year and the last two years, it's almost a 20 point to 12 point difference. So that's eight points different between home road. When you look at the consistency, you know, I have always loved getting Larry when he's fallen to the fourth, fifth round.
This year he's actually being given respect and average draft price. He's not the discount this season that he was last season. I still think he's going to be great. Probably are my top 12. Yeah, it might be. I tried in this off season to bury him, but it is worth noting he is not as good on the road as he is at home anymore. Number 10. All right. We're going to close it out with number 10 because I think we'll have the most discussion here. Adam Thielen is number 10.
I made a lot of adjustments to my rankings. Some small, some big over the course of this weekend after the games. People want to know what causes that. Sometimes it's liking other players more than move other guys down. Sometimes it's small things. Certainly didn't hurt that Kurt Cousins looked electric and Stefan Diggs looked electric. He looked accurate. I want to run this back here. So Thielen comes in at number 10. I have...
Thielen and Diggs at 12 and 13 in my rankings. Mike has Thelan Diggs at 10 and 12 in our rankings. Jason has the gap right now. Thelan 8 digs 17. So two questions for Jason. One, do you believe, as you have all offseason, that the gap is that large? And secondly,
If the cases know, what are you going to do to adjust Diggs based on this weekend? The case is yes. I still, I don't think anything changed. I've always thought the Diggs is a very good player, runs great routes, he can be used anywhere, and I think Thielen is a great player. Both are great. The question is who's going to be the primary target in this offense? We haven't seen enough from preseason to say one guy's clearly going to be the primary, and I think over the past...
