The TRUTH About Fantasy TEs in 2018 + Super Bowl Reaction

Yeah, he probably won't go behind Cook. Hunter Henry? Maybe. David Injoku? Injoku will go after him. Oh, yes. I don't believe it. I do not. There's only one way to settle this. It's a fight. Go to the future. Waterbed. I think I just made you guys to have a water bat. I thought that's what you meant. Neither one of you agreed to. I was just going to want. Just write it down because it's going to be 100 years before we.

Yes. To talk about it. All right. Number five, Jared Cook. Hooray. Yay. Here's where everything falls apart. Yeah, I mean. Did you like 27 points in week four, Jason, or did you like six points or two points in week six? I preferred three points in week nine. Thank you very much. What about the 15 in week eight?

That was okay, but I'm going to take the three points in week 16. And week 15 and week 17. Yeah, look, he busted half of his games 50% of the time. But like I said, seven of the top 12 did. You had to play the right matchup. Jared Cook was a guy that in. You played him at home. Yeah, you played him at home, played him against, you know, the right match. Unfortunately for him, his splits. What's his contract situation, Mike? I will find out. When he played against the top at.

the top 16 passing defenses. He actually, goodness gracious, he actually performed better. So he didn't always get the right start. Unrestricted free agent, Jared Cook. See, that's what I, that's what I thought. So 31 year old unrestricted free agent Jared Cook. Unfortunately, not that old for career highs across the board for him. He did everything he could to get himself a deal somewhere. Right? Yeah. Well, no, he'll probably get a job. I think he'll be back with. He's an unrestricted. He's an unrestrictor.

I was going to say the Raiders' new home. You said he's great at home. His home is changing. Yeah. They'll be in San Francisco this year. So they're not changing their name, though, right? No, no. They're not. I mean, they will next year or the two years from now. What? Yeah. Yeah. You think they're going to stay the Oakland Raiders instead of the Las Vegas, Mike? Oh, no. I thought you were saying they were going to be. I thought you were implying that they were changing the mascot. Actually, it is interesting. Will they be the Oakland Raiders?

playing in San Francisco while Oakland sues them. Wow. What a mess. What if they just, what if there's a protest to the lawsuit in the city, they just threw an asterisk on the Oakland? Jared Cook. Oakland Raiders? Jared Cook, look, we had a show early last season where I had to defend my ranking. Are you two toting Jared Cook now? No, no, no. My point is I was high on him because of the options. No matter where he goes next year.

He's not going to be a very relevant tight end. He's not, if he stays around in Oakland, he's a guy where he'll get off. He'll do the Jared Cook thing. 85% chance he's back in Oakland. Week one, he'll have a decent week. So if you want to draft him and then trade him or whatever, he's done it so many times where his first week is like, whoa, Jared Cook. And then usually disappears. He actually had some future games as the year went on that were good. But no, I mean, there's not even, why even talk that much about Jared Cook? Would you draft him ahead of,

Any of those other guys you mentioned when discussing where? 896 passing yards, six touchdowns, 101 targets. Not ahead of the guys they just brought up, no. No. But would I draft him? Yeah, I would draft him. Who would you? Okay, how about this? Jared Cook, who busted half his games but had 31% great. Yeah, four 100-yard games. Or Austin Hooper with a better offense, a better quarterback. I don't want to overstate this, but I would rather be dead than play Austin Hooper.

I'd rather be dead than have him as my tight-in. So you'd rather have Jared Cook? I would rather have a bag of Doritos. Okay. Yeah. The flaming hot ones? I don't care what kind. Look, Austin Hooper. They can be stepped on. I do not want to start Austin Hooper as my tight end. Austin Hooper finished this season as the number six tight end in fantasy. The top half. We have to talk about him now? Of the top 12. We do. Top half of the top 12 tight ends. And I could not agree with you anymore, Andy. That you'd rather be dead? I don't want to. If he's my.

Like drafted tight end after the draft, I quit that league. Is that because he's the consistency rank of 14, despite the number six ranking? Yes, that is part of why. He never had great games. Well, he had the two weeks span where they were dealing with some injuries. Week five and six? In Atlanta, week five and six, double digit targets, nine receptions, both of those games, over 70 yards in both those games. And that was just the...

That was the litmus test. It was okay. Austin Hooper was a third round pick. He's been touted for a long time. We got a two-game sample going on. And then he vaporized back into the next two games. He was terrible. I'm with you guys. Two Austin Hooper's equal, one, Travis Kelsey. If you want context, for the number six overall tied in, Kelsey scored twice as many points as the number six overall tight-in. That's where you're at.

And I do feel like what I said may... He may not be as inclined to come on the show at some point. That's a problem. But here's the thing. You've got to string three games together. Oh, not going to happen. You got to get in the flames, Austin. Trey Burton and Kyle Rudolph at 7 and 8. Trey Burton, look, unequivocally a disappointment to me. 54 for 569 and 6. His consistency rank was 11. I feel like...

The argument for Trey Burton is simply this finish. You just go, well, you lose the number seven. But this is not what you wanted. This is not what they paid him to be. No. I mean, he had 13 games of 40 yards or less. Caves closed. Wasn't the Trey Burton you wanted. Shows you maybe how difficult it can be to be a free agent tied in and get paid this money and deliver for fantasy owners. It's difficult to do. All the hype. I mean, look.

Matt Nagy got coach of the year, right? Yep. They were a playoff team, right? Mitchell Zubisky took a step forward, right? Trey Burton got paid a ton of money, right? He's supposed to fill the Travis Kelsey roll. Yeah. 54 for 569 and 6. That's not good, but here's what's even worse. Let's look at how he finished the year. After week 10, if you look at the last third of the season from week 11 on, he would have been on pace for a solid 48.

361 and 2. His usage was so weird. It was terrible. And yes, he finished as the number seven and you drafted him as the number four. So you feel like that should be like it's not that huge a loss. But there's a, I'm not in on Ray Burton next year. That's for sure. Yeah. So the question really becomes, okay, two years into the system. Maybe Mitchell Trabisky gets a little bit more accurate. Say what you want about his big game stretches. He was also.

very bad at times through the year. Can Trey Burton be valuable next year? Because unlike Jared Cook. He could be more valuable. Jared Cook to me, Austin Hooper to me, those guys, they're not going to have a good next year. But Trey Burton still could to me. Yeah, I'm leaving the door open for Trey Burton. Yeah, he's not going to move up to the elite category though. No. No, he's not. That's the door I'm closing. Yes. The, just.

You're closing the, so there's like, you got the half door, the kid door on the bottom, you're leaving that one open. What do they call those? Brooks, do you remember the door with the top and the bottom? It's the pie door. You call it a pie? What? Because you put the pie on the top. You set the pie on top of the door? I'm just trying to make a name for it. Yeah. No, there is a name for it. The half door. The kid door. It's not going anywhere good. It's not the kid door.

This is just as good as the pie door. What do you call? It's a Dutch door. There it is. Now what were we talking about again? We're saying we'll leave the bottom of the Dutch door open to be a serviceable, more consistent tight end. But he doesn't get to walk through like a grown man. You got a duck. Yeah. He's not going to be in the elite category. But he could take a step forward. I agree with that. He could walk himself into the Jared Cook category.

of production. I could see him putting up 70 for 850 and 5, 6. But look, Matt Nagy's not dumb. He's not going to focus on one guy. They've got weapons there. They have other players. And when you have a pass-catching weapon out of the backfield, that also diminishes the need to lean on a guy. He's a field stretching tight in. So, yeah, I mean, I think he's disappointing. Very.

Kyle Rudolph at number eight. So disappointing, in fact that I don't know that anyone's ever lost their nickname on this show. Trey Boo-boo? If you've noticed, Trey Boo-Boo did not make the shirt. Oh, my goodness. He lost his spot on the shirt. Yeah, that's how little we thought of him. Wow. Well, I mean, he's a... I hope you feel disrespected, Trey Burton. Look, when Terell Pryorne didn't get it done. Yeah. Well, because it...

What are we going to put dumpster fire? That's what I'm saying. He turned into Trey Boohoo or Trey Poo-Poo. That's the one. That's it. That's it. Nailed it. That's the one. Kyle Rudolph, Jason. Yeah. He's just like a middle of the rack t-shirt that fits fine. Nope. That is way too kind for what he did this year. All right. What did he do this year? He is the shirt that...

used to be a little tight and now it's shrunk and he was 100% cotton you're feeling great i've been eating poor and i'm i got to wear this out it's not dark the nips are showing there's something about you talking like this about cow rudolph it gives you joy just gives me a lot of joy look he finished number nine on the season i've reason this rudolph's a little tights

The reason he finished number nine on the season was week 16. So if you happened to play him in your championship game, that game was awesome. What were you doing there? 63% of the time. But I mean, he, you know, he averaged fewer than seven points, which we categorized as a bust. He averaged fewer than seven points all the way up through till that week 16 game. So he wasn't.

He wasn't a shirt that was like, meh, okay. This was a shirt that embarrassed. I was trying to be nice. No, I appreciate that. And here's the problem. Like, if you really remember what happened with Kyle Rudolph, he was actually serviceable for the first month of the season. And it felt like, okay, Kyle Rudolph's not going to wreck my team. I can throw him out there. I know I'm not going to get Travis Kelsey numbers. But I'll, I'll be all right in that tight in one. He was here. Tighten six over the first four weeks. Yeah. And then the wheels fell off.

And my argument on Kyle Rudolph has always been the same argument. We've had enough years of Kyle Rudolph to know where you're at. And he's a decent blocker. And because of the offensive coordinator switch and then wanting to get into a run first mentality, Kyle Rudolph won't, you know, he won't be on my radar either. And you have to keep this in mind. Like when we stat these guys out on the year?

And we look at the projection. He is involved. He's one of those near a 100% snap count type of players. He will get enough receptions, yardage, and touchdowns to be at or near the top 12 in our rankings at the end of the year. That doesn't mean that's a guy you want for fantasy. That's the point of the truth. That is why we do it. 20th in the consistency rank. He could very well finish as a tight in one next year and be 100% worthless to your roster. Are you adding him to your vomit roulette app?

Sure, yeah. I mean, he's got to be there. Except, I don't know that you're going to come up. I mean, that's a low percentage of not vomit. You always want to hit not vomit. Right. And he's got the little sliver. I'm very, very confused about this app. It's like the bankruptcy. So you spin the wheel and then you throw up. Well, no. You spin the wheel and then you either get vomit or not vomit. But most of the time you get. Most of the time you get vomit. With Kyle Rudolph. I don't want to play this game.

No. Is it, uh, hope you got Evan Ingram? Are you charging for the app? Because I don't think it's going to be a hit. 399. 399. All right. Let me read some more for you. David and Joku was the number nine tied in with the consistency rank of 17. Vance McDonald was number 10 with a consistency rank of 19. Gronk. Number 11 with a consistency rank of 12, number 75 in our hearts. Evan Ingram.

There we go. Number 12 with a consistency rank of six. Now, explain this because he missed so much of the season. Maybe people, they say, what? Yeah, I mean, he's lower in the actual rankings because of the games he missed. But when he was playing, he wasn't that bad. He busted 36% of the time. One of the few guys that busted fewer than 50% of the time. And he had good games at a perfect 55% of the time. Oh, my. Yeah.

Now there's some hesitation there because you do have to factor in a lot of his good games came when Odo Beckham was out. Eli is going to be another year older, but I would draft Evan Ingram ahead of almost everybody we just mentioned. Well, let me ask you this, because we need to talk about him in the same breath, I think. O.J. Howard was the number 13, so right behind Evan Ingram and finish, but consistency rank of number four, right? 70% of the games he played were good. Similar bust percentage, similar great percentage.