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AFC South Breakdown + Hidden Values, Jackhammer! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 7/19

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AFC South Breakdown + Hidden Values, Jackhammer! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 7/19

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distribution here. I think Kirk, Marvin Jones is still there. Treadwell got involved at the end of the year. They signed Zay Jones for money. They still have Leviska. Evan Ingraham, who I think is a name we need to talk about. And E. T.N. out of the backfield. And then if you spread, God forbid, he throws for only 3,600 yards again. You spread that out amongst all those players. It concerns me a little bit for the ceiling. I mean, you want to take a chance on Christian Kirk. It costs you nothing. There's nothing wrong with that.

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Yeah, Krisha Kirk, we know, is a really good football player. He's not a superstar who's 220 pounds and 6'3 and going to be a touchdown guy, but he's been very valuable through his short career. And if Trevor Lawrence takes that leap forward, I don't have a problem taking that shot. Evan Ingraham is a guy I've never really been a stand of. This is true. But I recognize his value as a pass-catching tight end.

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The opportunity here for, you know, you just brought it up, right? We're not sure there's a lot of mouths to feed here. But also, that means that players have an opportunity to come and establish that they are the dominant one, that they're the tight, you know, if he's the second most targeted player, Evan Ingram, in this offense, we could see how that could be realistic. And with his athleticism.

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His youth, he's still a young guy, giving him quite a big bag of money here to come play. I, granted, it's the jacksacks. I think he is a great, a great sleeper, deep, tight end. I am out. I'm sorry to say. I am not going to do it. I've seen five seasons of Evan Ingraham.

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And that's enough. I want to find a bet here. That's enough for me because they still have Dan Arnold on this roster, who's a past catching tight end. They gave him $10 million. I don't care about the money whatsoever in Jacksonville. It doesn't make a difference to me. They traded for Dan Arnold in the middle of the year and gave up assets. I mean, you can make any argument for it. But if you have two past catching tight ends, a ton of new wide receivers, and five years of history, I'm making a, I'm making a business decision to de-hype.

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Evan Ingram in my own drafts because I just don't think it's going to happen. I don't think he's going to be on the field a ton. He's a pass catcher, yeah. He's a pass dropper as well. Yeah, but he, professionally. And you bring in Doug Peterson here who brings in an offense that is, that offense loves to target the tight end position. And you've seen it from. So why not Dan Arnold? Just following the money. Exactly. They had Dan Arnold and they went and signed Evan Ingram to a bunch of money. And it wasn't just.

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They waited and then, like, it was very quick that Evan Engram was brought onto this team. He seemed like a focal point of their free agency search. So I'm, and just the profile of a tight end who can really break out, you need the athleticism that Evan Engram can bring. In Year 6, you think your 6 breakout for Evan Enger? Weird things happen with the tight end position. Well, now you've heard our opinions. Much earlier.

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Yeah, but it was after the trade. But it was it when he changed teams. He got traded from Chicago, Carolina. Yeah. Pretty sure he showed a lot more in Chicago than Evan Ingle ever showed in New England. Evan Ingraham's rookie year was one of the best tight-end rookie years of literal all time. Yeah. It was a long time ago. It was sure, but you said he hadn't shown anything. Showed a lot of rookie year. Okay. You can be the Evan Ingram stand of the show. That's just fine with me. I mean, it's not possible because you can't take my job. But.

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Boy, both of you. All in on Evan Ingram, Mike and Jason. Yeah. Enjoy. Oh, I will. Enjoy. It's not going to go well for you. All right. Divisional wrap up here. Who wins the division? Probably not. Yeah. Who wins it? I think the Colts take it. Okay. I lean the Colts as well. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. The toughest player to project in the division for you. Who do you think it is? Leviska, Chanel. It's tough.

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Well, okay, hard to project. Fantasy relevant player. Who's the toughest fantasy relevant player? That dude is on the way out. That's fair. I think the backfield in Houston is annoying and difficult to project. Because you just really don't have a beat on, I mean, Jason, we showed it on the show. You said Marlon Mack is guaranteed to start. Mike made the point. Damien Pierce is getting attention. Burkhead has somehow established the trust of the organization. That one's the difficult one for me.

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Yeah, that's fair. But I thought you were changing my Leviska Chantal into fantasy relevant players. I mean, that's fair. That's fair. You said Reese Hall would have been fantasy relevant. It's a pretty easy division to just rank out. Is there a sneaky addition? I guess yours is both Evan Ingram. Yeah. Trelon Burks is hard to know what to do with right now. He's a guy when you're trying to stat someone out that it's like the draft capital.

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versus the early buzz is really difficult to put a finger on it. I'll say Brevin Jordan as my sneaky pickup of the division because he's a tied in for Houston Texans. They only have like Brandon Cooks and a bunch of unproven, even Metschy, unproven. Nico Collins. I think Brevin Jordan can end up being somebody that Davis Mills leans on in this office. I will say Alec Pierce as the guy. He's the rookie wide receiver for the Colts. I think he.

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could easily slot in as the number two target. And he was a second round pick. This is a guy they invested in. Let's circle back real quick because we got Evan Ingram derailed us. Travis ETN, Jacksonville Jaguars, rookie season completely obliterated because of injury, but was a first round pick. And now James Robinson tore his, wait, what was James Robinson's injury? Achilles. Achilles, okay, I thought so. Tore his Achilles right at the end of the year. Where are you with ETN? Because he's being drafted.

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Very high. Third round in underdog drafts right now. Yeah, third round is too high for me. Yeah, I've been right. It's funny because I've been rising on ETN as far as what I believe, but I'm not to that degree yet of confidence at that.

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third round value, there's a lot of data that shows a 21% decline in performance in year one off of the list Frank injury. That's injury he's coming back from. We don't even know what his baseline is in the NFL because we didn't have a rookie year. That being said, all the hope and Trevor Lawrence, who was his college teammate who threw the ball a ton to him, and I think he's going to be using the passing game. So when you have a pass catcher,

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who was talented, who was a first round NFL draft pick, it's easy to see why people are saying, well, his ADP keeps rising. I think he could have the opportunity and be great for fantasy because of the past catching. But you do have to realize the list, Frank, is not just one where you come back and dominate year one. And I'm going to make the prediction right here on the show, July 19th. I think James Robinson sees the field early in the season.

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I've watched videos of him recovering. I've watched him cutting. Whether he's back at the very beginning, he is a bit of a thorn in the season-long projection for Travis ETN. Because when you look at the last year, James Robinson was the offense. I mean, he really was the most effective offensive piece. And the team loves him. And Doug Peterson is a curious running back user. Is that fair? Is that fair? That's fair. So I am worried about the ETN buzz, buzz, buzz, buzz, buzz. And all of a sudden,

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Like, you have an active James Robinson in week one. And there are two plugged in beat reporters that I know of from that area that both contend that he is the starter. But do they have a cool name like Jack Hammer? No, no, they don't have. They don't have, like, is it Bob Cat? Oh, that'd be nice. Yeah. Or Catter Pillar.

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Okay. Just stay. Not quite as nice. I hear Al Borland cackling in the back. All right, that is going to do it. Let's end with Jackhammer here. Thank you for that report, by the way. Back with the new show on Thursday. Good, bye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on join thefoot.com. And follow us on Twitter at the FF ballers.

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