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Week 5 Matchups + Wheel of Shame, Old Mother Hubbard | Fantasy Football 2025 - Ep. 1817

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Episode notes & curated moments 7 records
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Jason quits for exactly one tilted day

With Mike and Andy actively hosting, they connect Jason's absence to his Rams-defense result and the previous day's in-show trade frustration, joking that he has quit the podcast before clarifying that he is done only for today.

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FootClan Friday gives Matthew championship swag

The show repeats its Friday practice of awarding $100 at fantasychamps.com to a community member, this time reading Matthew49234 and jokingly extending the number before congratulating him.

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Al can school the hosts on nursery rhymes

Old Mother Hubbard sends Al jumping into the show with far more confidence than fantasy analysis. He claims he can school the hosts on nursery rhymes and debates whether Hubbard might be the old woman in a shoe; the conversation then adds a cottage photo, toe-box ceiling math, laces, and talk of his own podcast.

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The show must respect the Bill Croskey button

When Jacory Croskey-Merritt enters a lineup comparison, a host appears more interested in hitting the character button than answering; the reply is that the button must be hit because Bill Krosky deserves respect.

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The Jay Griz theme collides with an attempted roar cue

An unresolved Jay/Jason question is followed by the repeated 'I'm Jay Griss' theme while a host attempts a roar cue. The roar works on retest, another participant says he hit a button, and the hosts joke that actually changing the roar control could have gaslit the operator.

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Astronaut Mike is blind, deaf, foggy, and stuck

Mike's three-for-four Faceoff result forces a Wheel of Shame spin that lands on astronaut. His oversized head barely enters the helmet, his monitors come out, he cannot see or hear, the visor must rise for speech, the helmet fogs, and a hacksaw is proposed when it may never come off.

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Episode notes

Andy and Mike are the active hosts. After Jason's Rams-defense result follows the previous day's in-show trade tilt, they joke that he has quit the podcast for exactly one day; his absence also leaves Al assigned to contribute his Fantasy Faceoff picks. FootClan Friday performs the recurring $100 fantasychamps.com giveaway. A Chuba Hubbard update then derails into Old Mother Hubbard: Al eagerly debates whether she might be the same old woman who lived in a shoe, admits fantasy analysis is not his strength, and claims he can school the hosts on nursery rhymes. A cottage photograph, toe-box ceiling calculations, laces, and the prospect of Al's own podcast follow. The Bill Croskey button interrupts an otherwise ordinary Jacory Croskey-Merritt comparison because the show must respect Bill. The strongest Jay evidence is audio-only: an unresolved Jay/Jason question is followed by the repeated 'I'm Jay Griss' theme while a host attempts a roar cue. The roar works on retest, another participant admits hitting a button, and the hosts joke that actually changing the roar control could have gaslit its operator. Mike closes by spinning the Wheel despite going three for four. Astronaut wins, the helmet proves too small for his jumbo head; his ear monitors are out, he becomes blind and unable to hear, the helmet fogs, and its visor must rise whenever he speaks before the hosts contemplate a hacksaw.

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and company and in one of their matchups because Wilkes was the head coach in Carolina or the, he was the head coach, I think when they let Baker go. Okay. And so Baker took that personally. And then Steve Wilkes came out and he said he was an interim head coach at the time. And, and Steve Wilkes is like, yeah, yeah, I heard that. And, um, he's like, I didn't, I don't think I had any say over personnel decisions. He said, if I did, we wouldn't have traded Christian McCaffrey. And I was like, yeah, I guess that's a good point. But in this game, Baker will not have Bucky Irving who had been so valuable in moving this

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offense along. They won't have Mike Evans. Mm-hmm. Chris Godwin, it was 10 targets, three receptions, still getting his feet under him. Where are you with this offense altogether? Like Baker in particular, you know, no Bucky. No Evans. Laser. That, that scared me. I'll be honest, that frightened me a little bit. I didn't expect lasers. No. Uh, the lasers would be going to Abuka and Godwin and Sean Tucker and Rashad White. So where are you, what's the vibe? Uh, I mean, vibe is just that the Bucks have, the Bucks and Baker have proven that they will overcome things. Baker is apparently just that good.

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Uh, cause the matchup for like the quarterback, Seahawks against the quarterback position, 11th right now, second against wide receivers. It's not going to stop me from playing Baker or Abuka. Chris Godwin. I'm, I'm focusing on the targets that there was 10 of them and it was, it was his first game back only caught three of them. So when you look at the, the box score and you're, you're upset that you played Godwin or you're upset. He's on your bench and you're like, he didn't do anything. 10 targets is pretty awesome in your first game back. They are underdogs. So it profiles to be a game where they may have to throw the football quite a bit.

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That's the one area Seattle has been really good against is the wide receiver position. Number two, only giving up 18.5 fancy points a game. Rashad White. Let's do some start sit with Rashad White or Rico Dowdle. Ooh. I, I'd, I'd go, I'd go Rashad. The, the, what about Woody Marks? My start of the week. If it's your team, you got Woody Marks against Baltimore. They've struggled or the, the platoon with white. That's really tough. I might go Woody. The, the hard thing to know is what will they, how will they split it up? Cause Rashad White has been a workhorse for this team, but it's like the Amari

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DiMorcato thing of he kind of has his role in the offense. And now we project Michael Carter to kind of step over him and take the early down role. So it, it's possible that that ends up being Sean Tucker. That's the fear. Tucker is not like the question of, is he too risky? Like I think Tucker gets work. Oh, I, I, I do too. It's so I, I, I think Tucker is still a, like a more desperate flex play, but you're in a bi-week. You have no Josh Jacobs. You have no DeAndre Swift. You have no B. John. I could see a, I would play shot there.

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I'd play Rico over Tucker. Ken Walker, Zach Charbonnet. The dance continues for the Seahawks. Yeah. Kenneth Walker is the upside play and Charbs, you. He's the downside play. Yes. Yeah. He's a basement play. You just cross your fingers and hope that he gets a touchdown. JSN is an auto lock start. And we're just watching cup and Horton at this point. Yeah. Um, we'll see if Elijah Arroyo gets more opportunities in the passing game. Barner scored the touchdown last week. And, you know, Darnold's been playing well, completing 70% of his passes, not turning the ball over. He's starting to enter the, the streaming conversation in certain matchups.

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Absolutely. Would you play Darnold over Kyler? Hmm. My rankings say I wouldn't, but my heart says I might do that. I don't like that. All right. We'll take a break. We'll come back with some more matchups. Lowe's nose Sundays are for football. So tackle your home improvement projects by Saturday and earn your Sunday with great deals on cobalt power tools, pit boss grills, LG appliances, and more. Then once your to-do list is done, get ready to kick back, relax, and enjoy the game. Shop in-store or online now and earn your Sunday with help from Lowe's, official partner of the NFL.

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Oh, this will be pretty. Detroit, 3-1, taking on the Cincinnati Bengals in Cincinnati. It's going to be pretty for my DST. Yeah. The Vegas line here, Detroit minus 10 on the road. So you're on the road, your 10-point favorites. The over-under is 49 and a half. That gives the Lions almost 30 points, the highest implied point total of the week. The Bengals' offense is ruining fantasy football lives at this point. Yeah. Chase Higgins, Chase Brown. I mean, we haven't mentioned a tight end's name in Cincinnati all year, nor should we. Well, Noah Fant will be back, everyone. Oh, yeah, that'll fix it.

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I was just letting you know the news. You know what? If he can block, play offensive line, then sure, that could help. The Bengals have the lowest average time of possession in the entire NFL. So not only are they not productive when they have the ball, they don't have the ball very much. 31st in yards per play. And yeah, it's not going to be good. How did they get this schedule? Well, we... This is so rude. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, we... When they were 2-0 and the injury happened, it was very easy to look at this schedule and say, they're going to lose the Minnesota game, lose the Denver game, lose the Detroit game.

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They'll lose next week against Green Bay. They'll lose against Pittsburgh. You want to have a game at home against the Jets, that's your next chance in week eight. But what do you do, Mike? What do you do with Jamar Chase, T. Higgins? I had somebody offer me T. Higgins. I think we were talking yesterday. Yesterday, maybe I mentioned it to you. It might have been on the Footcast, actually. And somebody had offered T. Higgins in a trade, and it's like, the name, it hits you right away. It's like, oh, it's not so bad. I ended up turning the trade down.

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I just ended up walking away from it. It was like, I don't know if T. Higgins is what he... If at any point this year he's going to be anything worthy of the name. Well, will Jamar Chase? No. No, it doesn't seem that way. Jamar Chase will have his games, though, because he can make a play so good after the catch. Where... Like, Chase is still in my lineup. Okay. Jamar Chase or Keenan Allen? Oh, don't do this. Yeah. Chase. I'll play Chase. Jamar or Zay Flowers? I'll play Chase. Jacoby. Chase. Okay. Yeah, yeah. I'm glad you went to that tier.

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If Lamar was healthy, that might have been a different discussion with Zay Flowers. Sure. So, Chase Brown, though, at this point. Chase Brown is somebody you keep playing, but he's not doing anything with it. Yeah, he's... Tons of opportunity. I think he is an easier play because of the position and the volume he's getting than the wide receivers. Dowdle. I'd play over him. I'd play Dowdle. JCM. Jacory Krosky-Meritt. Would you play him or Chase Brown? Is that your answer or you just want to hit the button? Well, you got to hit the button. You got to respect Bill Krosky. Real Krosky.

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I would... I'd play Chase Brown. Okay. I think. Apparently, there was discussion in the office yesterday. There was. Michael Carter or Chase Brown. What was the decision on that one? It was a shrug. No, there's... We all just shrug, man. You can't... Start sitting decisions with the Bengals is impossible. Look at this. Yeah, 49ers doubt. He did... Look, if there's a time to do it... Yeah. It's when Mac Jones leads you to victory on Thursday night. They are... You love Mac Jones, right? Yeah. Okay. He... The 49ers are 3-0 against the division? Oh, my gosh. Yes. Yeah, they are. I mean, they're...

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Speaking of schedules that worked out, they played great, though. Yeah, they did. They did play great. They're well coached. No more Bengals starts-it questions. All right. Jameer Gibbs playing. Montgomery's Jason's start of the week. Amun-Ra, yep. I would play Jamison Williams. I would, too. Jamison Williams is, you don't want him on your bench when it happens, and he has... Last week, he had seven opportunities for a long touchdown that didn't work out. I would hold on to Jamison Williams. It's coming. I truly believe that. Sam Laporta, he's in the TJ Hawkinson world right now. Sam Laporta, if you need five points, no more, no less...

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Don't do that of him. I still believe in Sam Laporta. So, yeah, if you needed Sam Laporta, he'd be there for you, but right now, 4.1, 5.3, 5.4. So, those of you with Sam Laporta right now, I wouldn't count on him winning your week. It's like Hunter Henry. Better than... I would play Hunter. Kincaid. I would play Kincaid. Yep. Pitts. Obviously, he's on by this week, but that's been the start. I'd play Waller. I'd play... Oh, wow. You'd go to Waller. Yeah. I think Waller is... I was doing some more reading on Waller, and it was a team-instituted snap restriction.

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Oh, yeah. That makes sense. And he's also been limited in practice. Same thing. Team-restricted. He has come out and said he's... It's the ramp. He's like, I'm ready for more if the team's ready to give it to me, so we'll see if he gets 50-plus percent of snaps or not. But... Yeah. I mean, Sam Laporta right now just doesn't offer you enough upside. That's how it feels. I agree. But the 30-point implied team total is... You want a piece of that. You want guys in there. Give me that. Yeah. I mean, it's wild, because it's like Jared Goff could legitimately have five touchdowns,

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and that's spread around to whoever. Jared Goff could have a single touchdown, and then Monty and Gibbs have two each again. That makes them the tough team. Now, you know Amon Ra will get his. That's the one thing that always happens. The Commanders are 2-2. They take on the 3-1 Los Angeles Chargers, who were upset last week by the Giants. The Vegas line, Chargers minus 2-1⁄2. The over-under is 46-1⁄2. So the Chargers knocked out of the realm of the unbeaten last week. What are we left with? Philly's unbeaten, right? 4-0. Who else is undefeated? I think that's... Wait. I'm looking over...

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Is the Bills lost? The Bills haven't lost, have they? Correct. Is there anybody else? Is that the only two teams? I believe so. Okay. Let's see. Yeah, so we got... Buffalo and Philly. Yep. And... That's a little rare through four weeks to not more undefeated. And we have two... Wait. Three? Three winless teams. Ah. Titans, Saints, and the Jets. You got it. Yeah. Why do I know those faster than I know the winners? Welcome to Fantasy Football. We remember who let us down. We do. We remember the birds are more powerful than the lucky wins. Uh... Sorry, not lucky wins.

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Skilled wins. Skilled-based. Lucky losses. Yes. Or unlucky losses. Jaden Daniels returning in this game for the Commanders. It makes the game a lot more exciting. They're only... Chargers only two and a half point home favorites in this one. But the injuries on the side of the Commanders, they do make you feel a little uncomfortable. No Terry McLaurin. Debo, the practice situation. We'll see. So, you know... Okay. If you want a DFS shot, Chris Moore is your DFS shot there. Second most routes run by the Commanders last week, believe it or not. I do believe it. Yeah. And you'd be like, who's Chris Moore?

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And it's like, I don't know. That's been the... I mean, he's done this so many different places. You remember Chris Moore had those games in Houston a few weeks, a few years ago, where all of a sudden it was like, wait, why is that player doing something? Like, he finished his wide receiver 10 in week 14 for Houston back in 2022. Mr. Necessary. Yeah. There's just... I'm not... Not messing around? No. There's... Like Luke McCaffrey. Somehow, someway, we have two starts of the week from the same receiving core on the other side. Yep. Jason went with Ladd McConkie, then flood the country.

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Quentin Johnston was Mike's start of the week. Like, you know, what's funny is I was so surprised when he made Ladd McConkie the start of the week. Like, just, what are you doing? Right. If you do look deeper, there is some real compelling reasoning to why he might start to have some games. I mean, the one thing we saw this morning, no receivers have faced more double coverage than Ladd McConkie and Keenan Allen. Hello, Qge, getting the opportunity that he's had. See, even the defenses still don't buy in. They're like, nah. No, you can't do that to us. We got two years of tape on Qge.

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He can't do it. Well, the old advice on defense with Qge was let him try to catch the ball. Exactly. But the other argument is, like, McConkie's... The targets are there. So, we'll see. We'll see what happens. It's, again, Jason Randall Moore, start of the week Ladd McConkie. Yeah. Mike went with Qge. And you have an offense here, Amari and Hampton. Locked and loaded. Top 10 back. Rest of season. Maybe top five. We'll see. Could happen. What's wild is the sentiment around Hampton was so negative through two weeks. He's now one of only four running backs to have 250-plus rushing yards and 100-plus receiving yards

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through four weeks of the season with B. John Jacobs and Jonathan Taylor. So, he's already, despite the limited work in the first couple weeks, or limited success, he's in that great category. What do you do with the running backs on the other side? Oh, man. The matchup against the number one ranked rushing defense in football for Ja'Cory, Krosky, Merrick, Chris Rodriguez. That's why the start-sit question about Bill is so difficult. It was completely shared in week four. Chris Rodriguez, 20 snaps. Bill Krosky, 20 snaps. Jeremy McNichols, 19 snaps. I can tell you what I'm doing. Oh, please do. Because I have...

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Because I'm just going to talk until you make me stop talking. So, I have Ja'Cory, Krosky, Merrick. He's not in my lineup this week. Over? Well... Or at under, I guess. Right now, it's Jacoby Myers. But Debo is also in my lineup right now. And if Debo was ruled out, I would play Rico Dowdle before I'd play Ja'Cory, Krosky, Merrick. Okay. So, that's the way I feel. I want Ja'Cory, Krosky, Merrick on my team. Yeah. I do not necessarily want him in my lineup this week. Or until I see more of an established... Like, Jason made the point he missed a lot of practice last week.

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So, maybe that's why the breakdown wasn't the same. He is the number one on the depth chart. So, there could be the breakout coming. He's averaging almost six a carry. But I'm willing to wait for it than ride it unless I'm in a bye-week pinch. Sure. So, he is start worthy. You can look for a big play. That's the nice thing is... Sometimes you have players like Nick Chubb. The big play is not coming. Players like Ja'Cory, Krosky, Merrick. They can get you a 60-yard touchdown the day is made. In the shade. Zach Ertz. Sure. Zach Ertz, what do you think?

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I mean, he's necessary, but... It is nice to have Jaden Daniels back for Zach Ertz. Yeah. So, you had... Week two, he had the eight targets. Other than that, it's been pretty rough of 26 yards, 38, 21. Well, that was two Mariota games. That did concern me because they have that connection. Yeah. I... He's startable. I mean, would you... It's like Ertz or Hawkinson. Um... Jason? Does it go all the way up to... What do you think, Jay? Does it go to Laporta for you, Andy? I'm Jay Griss! I'll be honest. I'm Jay Griss! There's so much beer on the screen.

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I think I got baited in that one. There's a Jay Griss button that I hit. It's supposed to just be a roar. And it was supposed to be a roar. And it's a song now. Look. There we go. Oh, it is a roar. What did I hit? I hit it. Oh, you hit it? What? Oh, my gosh. That was messing with my mind. I'm like... See, that was a smart plan. I thought you messed with my... You could have just gaslit him so bad. Oh, you could have. If you had messed with the roar button, that would have been a sweet plan.

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Thanks, Jay. Yeah, I mean, I might go to Laporta in that situation for sure. Okay. What about, like, Brenton Strange? I'd go Strange. I would, too. The New England Patriots, this will be fun, taking on the cold front. Buffalo Bills, the other undefeated team. Buffalo, 8.5 point home favorites. The over-under is 49.5. The New England Patriots trying to break through these basement dwelling days and into the middle to upper tier of the NFL. I don't think they'll do it here. I also just think that if I was playing against a team with such incredible jerseys as the Bills that they're playing in this week,

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like, I would never wear the jersey of another team. Right. I just have this... That's just not something I can do as a Cardinal fan. This is close. Ooh. This one's close. Like, if I... If the Cardinals are out of the playoffs and Josh Allen's on my fantasy team, I'm wearing this Josh Allen jersey. I can see that. But you need the whole fit. Yeah, the helmet really helps it. Yes. All right, look. The Patriots, they have played the Josh Allen-led Buffalo Bills pretty close over the years, even when they've struggled. Allen is just 7-6 against New England since being drafted.

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How is that possible? I don't know. Somehow he's averaged just a 58% completion percentage and 18 fancy points against New England. What? You know, the Patriots will be up for this game. They will be... It's divisional. Mike Vrabel, they got it done last week in a dominating fashion. I do think that Buffalo, you know, they're going to win the game in my opinion. I don't see this as an upset. But Drake May's been getting it done. He's the only quarterback of 20-plus fancy points in each of the last three weeks. Yeah, he has been getting it done. Two of those weeks, we saw 31 yards on the ground.

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