Week 2 Matchups + Losing Impressively, Wheel of Shame - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/17

That is correct. What about old Winston? I think Winston is a streamer. I mean, he was on our streaming episode because when you go out, he didn't throw for a lot of yards, but you can't ask him to do anything more than he did. Five touchdowns, and now you've got the Carolina Panthers defense, which looked good week one. Could ask for six. Okay, that's fair. That's fair. You can always ask for more. But yeah, I think he's a streaming option. I'm really.

really interested in Carolina this week, especially their defense. I think they had six sacks, week one, but it was obviously the Jets. And so it's hard to tell. Like when you only have that week one sample, it's like maybe it's possible we're making too much of how bad the Jets offensive line was and not giving enough credit to the Carolina Panthers defensive line. Or maybe that's exactly what it is. We're going to find out this week.

One crazy Winston's stat. I have to bring up just to circle back there for a split second. Last week, the Winston passed the Deonté Harris traveled 50 yards in the air. Drew Breeze attempted 9,421 passes for the Saints. He never had a touchdown that went 50 yards in the air. What? Isn't that crazy? I mean, he had a 50 yard touchdown. He just did 50 air yards on the throw. That's wild. So, moonball.

Yeah, I wouldn't expect five touchdowns, but it could be a good matchup for Winston on the road. Alvin Camara, you always play him. Same with McCaffrey on the other side, despite the matchup being tougher. He is involved in the passing game. He is immune to bad games. He cannot have them. I think that's true. He's immune. That's true. I think he's immune to bad game. His bad game is going to be a top 20 running back for sure. 100%. And DJ Moore, 6 for 80 last week, 83% of snaps. He is the...

Number one for this team, and so far so good on the breakout season for DJ Moore. I think you should try and trade for DJ Moore right now. Really? Like, I've, I mean, I've always loved DJ Moore, but Andy, you're kind of on the side of that the breakout is coming. Yeah, this year. DJ Moore, look at the numbers, a 24% target share, so that turned into eight targets. They gave him a.

attempt out of the backfield there was and he caught six of his eight and i think one was like a really egregious drop that is not normal for a j more just saying that i'm i feel very confident that dj more before sooner than later is about to explode for fantasy the implied point total in this game for the panthers just 20 points is there a chance that

You know, if he has a down week in this bad matchup that you go get him at that point. Yeah, I was going to say you might want to hold off a week if you believe. I mean, obviously, Latimore being gone makes a big difference. And if he explodes this week, you're not going to get him. So you got to call your shot. But I don't anticipate this being a perfect matchup or a high scoring affair for the Panthers this week. Would you get him now? I'm saying that if he has, because it wasn't X, it wasn't tremendous for fantasy last week.

And this week may not be incredible. But if he has anything that resembles an okay game, whoever has more isn't going to be looking to trade them. So you're definitely gambling on this week if you don't go after him right now. The target total for Robbie Anderson is going to be one of the things I'm most interested in in week two of the season to see if he is, in fact.

relegated to lower totals because of McCaffrey or whether that was a one-off, whether he's a boom-bush guy or can be more relied on. Calloway on the other side, Marcos Calloway, wide receiver for the Saints, that would be a potential flex for me. Now that he is freed up from Jair, I'd give him a shot. Troutman's a desperation play at tight-in.

I would agree. And the last name to throw out there, Terrace Marshall Jr., rookie wide receiver for the Carolina Panthers, he was running 83% of his snaps in the slot. He's going to be that short, get the ball out quick guy, the defensive pressure from the Saints, what they did to Aaron Rogers and the Packers last week. I expect that there's going to be a lot of targets, at least, not necessarily high value, but if you're in a PPR league and for DFS where his...

cost is next to nothing. I do think he'll have enough targets. He had the highest percentage of routes targeted in week one. Are you trying to tell us something about your upcoming lineup, Jason? I don't know. Stay tuned and we'll see. The Denver Broncos. But yes. Oh, I spoiled it, didn't I? The one and old Broncos travel to the Jacksonville Jaguars. Draft Kings has the line Broncos minus six on the road.

I'll take it. That is an indictment. Yes, it is. An urban indictment on Mr. Meyer. Over under is 45 in this game. It puts jacks of under 20. Broncos at 25 and a half. What do you do with James Robinson? Like, do you play James Robinson or Tyson with the rotating backfield in Baltimore? Tyson. I think that.

Tyson is, you've got to take a. You have to take a slight weight and see approach on James Robinson, if you can. I thought Sequin was going to have a very, very bad game last night, still started him over James Robinson. I am not terrified of James Robinson's outlook rest of season, but the Broncos are a good defense.

I'm not just going to say I'm right that he's going to be the clear one of this committee. I want to wait and see. So I think you bench James Robinson, if you can this week. Do you, what's funny about the Jacksonville offense is you know that there's a likelihood to be throwing the ball a lot. Correct. And you had relevant fantasy games from all three wide receivers last week in a brutal defeat. Anybody that rosters, Chark, Jones, Chanel, the juniors.

Anybody that rosters them is kind of happy with the one they have. Like I've noticed that. Sure. Right. And it's like, oh, I prefer Chark to the other two I don't have. I prefer Schenalt. Because he's on my team. And so, I mean, how do you, do you look at them all the same in terms of projections? I mean, they're sitting Schenalt 36, Marvin 41, Chark 43 on our rankings right now. But is that how you view them? Yeah, I do, I do view them.

Well, no, no, not according to the rankings. I view them how they finished week one. I thought it was what you were saying. I think Chark is the number one. He showed that in week one. The Marvin Jones late garbage time helped him to be okay. And while Viska has the guaranteed...

volume when it comes to manufacturer touches. He's going to touch the ball the most. They're very low value. So if he doesn't break, and he can, he can break, you know, a screen 80 yards and get a touchdown. But they're all at the line of scrimmage. So if you're in a PPR league and, you know, a five-yard reception is worth a point and a half, then I like Visc. Otherwise, I'm going to probably put Chark in my lineup. James, does that hurt you? Because I know you've been. No, I mean, it's fine. I still don't agree.

I still think Marvin's the one, but we'll see how week two and three goes. I'm willing to let the players on the field tell me the truth. Schenalt's the safest in terms of guaranteed PPR touches, like you said. James O'Shaughnessy ran the third most tight-in rounds. He is interesting. Yes. As a doubt, I mean, O'Shaughnessy or Troutman? Troutman. Troutman. Okay.

How many targets did he have, eight? Yeah, he had a lot of them. Eight target, six catches 48 yards. Yeah, and Tritman had the five or six, six, I believe. Yeah, but O'Shaunice, he's on the, he's definitely on the radar. He was someone who, at least just week one, he popped up similar to the way that Jared Cook did where they ran a lot of routes on the field. They had a lot of high percentage of the routes that were getting targeted. So I'm going to monitor it.

This isn't the particular matchup that I'm excited to play that level of a tight end, though. So this week it would be Trowman. Much rather play Noah Fant on the other side. Oh, yeah. Well, that's not fair. Noah Fant has an opportunity here, eight targets last week. I'd rather play Waller. I like that you think of Noah Fant like that now. Thank you. Yeah. That's great. Better than O'Shaughnessy? No, in the same breath. In the same breath as Waller. No, he would rather play Waller.

He likes Waller better. He compared my Fant comparison to Waller. Melvin Gordon's my start of the week at running back. I also think you can flex Javante Williams. Both should have a meaningful game. Bridgewater, solid debut, 28 for 36 last week. Lost Jerry Judy, though. And Judy was a, you know, he was six of those 28 completions and a lot of the yards. So Cortland Sutton, he's a wait and see.

I think you can, you know, if there was ever a week to just grab somebody and put him right into your flex, Tim Patrick and K.J. Hamler are interesting on that front. Agreed. I'm starting KJ. Hamler. And the matchup that he has against the cornerback rookie Tyson Campbell, who gave up a 158.3 passer rating last week is great. And you have the fact that Jerry Judy, who in his rookie year was almost not exclusively, but predominantly. I think it was like 80% was on the outside. In this.

first week of the season, Jared Judy ran a lot from the slot and was targeted, you know, was off to a great start. He ran from the slot a lot? Yeah, slot a lot. And that's where Teddy Bridgewater, how he got caught. There you go. But KJ. Hamler is kind of going to be in that role. I think KJ. Hamler is an absolute fine flex play this week. I would put him in my lineup. Funny question here, because I could see a situation. Would you?

Flex Hamler or Fant if you had to choose. Oh, that's a great question. There are a couple weird tight-in situations like that, like Goddard. Like some people might have Goddard or Fant as they pick them up because they're trying to figure out who their tight end is. I would flex Hamler. I would flex Hamler as well. But it is interesting to think that Fant might be in consideration for a flex if he is a second tight-end on your roster. I wonder if I would play Hamler and Patrick over DJ Tark.

Marvin Jones or Viska on the other side of the ball? I wouldn't. It's just tough, man, to trust what you saw from the Jags week. I think you're going to see Gordon and Giovante so much more involved than James Robinson and Carlos Hyde that, I don't know, I want the other extra 20 pass attempts or something. Yeah, the game script. Let's talk about some other cornerback matchups here. Minnesota Vikings, O and 1, traveling to Arizona to take on the Cardinals. Cardinals, DK Sportsbook line here.

Cardinals minus four over under is 50 and a half. That puts the Cardinals to about 27 points, Vikings at 23. Huge week from the Cardinals offense. Kyla Murray accounted for five touchdowns, one on the ground, four through the air, two touchdowns for Hopkins, two for Christian Kirk. I don't remember when we were talking about the Christian Kirk situation. Was it before the show yesterday? Who knows, man? I can't tell when. It's all the blurred. Where am I? I think Tuesday during where there's smoke, there's fire.

Yes, but I was talking about to these guys yesterday that there could be some staying power to the Christian Kirk universe right now, the breakout, because he is a, he's a prolific slot receiver, but last year only had about 15, 16% of his snaps from the slot. He was forced to play outside. The Cardinals had no other outside options. This year they bring in A.J. Green.

The argument's kind of like AJ Green may be freeing Christian Kirk up to fly because he ran 70-something percent of his snaps in the slot last week. Something to monitor with Christian Kirk. And being at home against Minnesota that just gave up pretty good games to Jamar Chase, T. Higgins, it's something to look at. Now, this is, I'm just putting it out there. This is my play or go game for AJ Green. If he can't do it against Rashad Breeland, who gave up.

a ton of yards last week at home in Arizona against Minnesota this week. It's done. I will cut A.J. Green, and I will apologize for believing. So then you're saying that those who are rostering A.J. Green right now, they, you know, if he is even in consideration, you should start him this week. Should I play or should I go game for A.J. Green. And this is, I would, I would be willing to flex A.J. Green in this game, yes. So the poetic justice that.

The Minnesota Vikings will be the ones that initiate the Viking funeral for AJ Green. Okay, okay. I see, I mean. The arrow is lit. Yeah. Would you like to jump in my time machine? I think, yeah, you said that earlier this week. I think AJ Green has a fine game. He was targeted six times last week. He had an end zone target. You guys can disagree. You will. I know you will. Yeah. He's got a great matchup in this one, and they're going to get him on track at home.