Top 10 QB Rankings + Player Tweaks, Tom Riddle - Fantasy Football Podcast for 8/13

Yeah, I mean, if it wasn't for the shoulder injury for me, this is the quarterback two, two years ago. And he was basically the quarterback one last year before the injury. You know how much was different two years ago, Jason? Sure. He didn't have CD. He didn't have CD Lamb two years ago. The wide receiver core, the offense, the defense.

The defense is a good point. I mean, I really, really like Dak. My big worry is just the shoulder. If he drops to where I think it's a good enough value, I'll take the shot that he's healthy. Is it even fair to call them a defense? Like, is that like? The Cowboys? Right. I think by rule they have to. Okay. Let me. Okay, Jason, let's ask. Sorry Cowboys fans. Dak drops to the eighth round. But the news is coming out. Well, we don't think Dak is going to play week one.

We're not sure if he's going to play week two. Is Dak that level of quarterback where you're willing to take him and then just stream for those first couple weeks? No, because there's other options. The next two guys we're talking about are just as good and they're not injured. But they won't be there in the eighth round. One of them will. Okay. Fair. Justin Herbert is getting a lot of respect in the fantasy football world right now. Quarterback six off the board. You two have the biggest disparity. He's our ninth by consensus. I have him at eight.

But Jason, you're at six, Mike, you're at 12. We already know Mike Williams won't be available to him for most of the year, just based on history. No. But why don't you guys discuss briefly why you have him where you do? Because obviously I think we all, I think we're all amazed at the talent, the pure talent of Justin Herbert and what he did in his rookie season, but why the disparity between you two?

I mean, it's really a matter of projection, right? Is the rookie we've seen a small sample, and you've just got to decide what is the offense going to be like? What is the team going to be like? It's a new head coach, new coordinator. When I look at it, the more that I've thought, in fact, this is a recent change. I've moved him up recently because he was more in line with your ranking, Andy.

just watching and remembering how good he was, realizing that this is an improved offensive line, a second year with these players. I just think he takes a step forward, and this is a bet on talent. What we saw last year was unbelievably great. It was, you know, the best rookie season as a pure passer that I can ever remember seeing, unless you are kind of counting the sophomore Pat Mahomes.

first year playing. But that wasn't fair. It was the second year. So, you know, I'm hoping that he takes that huge jump forward. I think he's got enough weapons on the offense, assuming Mike Williams is actually playing football with Keenan and Austin Echler and the offensive line. I just really like everything I'm seeing out of camp and I'm betting on the talent. And for me, it's since the year 2000, we've seen 15 rookie quarterbacks average over 13.

Fantasy points in 10 starts. Cam Newton, Griffin, Russ, James, Mario, Dach, Baker, like high-level quarterbacks, and 10 of the 15 regressed in points per game. I like Herbert. I really do like the future for him, but for fantasy purposes, I mean, it's not that I dislike him, it's the, I like other guys more. He shouldn't have to shoulder quite as much of the load if Austin Echler can stay healthy and be on the field.

and he can hand the ball off to somebody that's not Kalam Blige. Well, he needs to hand it off just in a forward motion. Right. Just a slight forward motion. Let's call that a pass. Now, to be fair to everything we're talking about here, Justin Herbert's going in the fifth round. And even though I am clearly the highest here and I am betting on talent with the ranking.

I'm not drafting Justin Herbert. He isn't, like in the fifth round, I'm hoping Kyler gets there. He's my number one quarterback, a true difference maker. I think Herbert is going to have a good season and going to be a really solid fantasy asset. Too pricey. But too pricey because this next guy, you know, I've been leaving every draft with one of three quarterbacks. It's either Kyler, Tom Brady or Ryan Tanahill. Yeah. Number 10 on our list, nine for me, 11 for Mike, 11 for Jason, 12 by ADP.

And you have. You have ended up with Ryan Tannehill in a ton of drafts. Why do you like that combination of, you know, what he offers fantasy players plus the draft price? Well, he's already done it. I mean, it's kind of wacky and wild to...

to say that because you look at his fantasy finish and last year was his best. He was the quarterback seven. But he was way, way, way better than that once AJ Brown missed the beginning of the season. And he wasn't good without AJ Brown. And when he got back, he was like the quarterback two, the rest of the way. And the previous year, once he took over, he was the quarterback three. So he's already been a top three quarterback in pretty much two different years. And now you're adding Julio Jones to the mix.

I just think where he's going in a draft, there's very few people who have that true breakout upside. The fact that you can really have a guy that throws so many touchdowns and is efficient and can have a season-long breakout that late in a draft. That's pretty much why I like it. We have them ranked in a very similar spot, each of us. Ryan Tennell is 80P QB12. Well, I said that.

a little bit fast, but he's the quarterback 12 off the board on average. There will be leagues he goes further than that. Sure. By a lot. If you're in a league where the people around you are investing in the upper echelon quarterbacks early, I could see Tannahill going undrafted in some leagues. I could see Tannahill going in the last round in some leagues. So that's where you can really be, you know, you don't have to go into a draft saying I'm 100% shooting for Tannahill in the ninth round. You could be like,

I'm going to keep Danahill on my radar and all of a sudden get a free potential top seven quarterback for, you know, in the last round. He pads with incredible efficiency. The addition of Julio Jones should not be understated for that to continue for Ryan Tanahill. And then he gives you the play action inside the five with Derek Henry. You've got to sell out to stop Henry. That's a free touchdown for Ryan Taniel. Five carries inside the five last year resulting in four touchdowns.

Seven rushing touchdowns. And, yeah, those four touchdowns he got last year, those are. If you send all 12 defenders to stop Derek Henry on the goal line, what did I say? You said all 12. One extra, the coach. We're running off to side. Yes, if you add an extra man on the field, it's still 50% chance you stop Derek Henry. So that's, like you said, it's a free play for 10 Hill. Yeah, like I probably get one of those touchdowns in.

If Derek. Oh, with the play action? With the play action, I'll beat you. All right. Wrap up questions for today. We're going to go through late-round quarterback, streaming quarterbacks. That's going to be a big time show on Monday. I mean, those are the guys that we'll be answering that question. Who's that late-round player that could take the, you know, the Kyler leap, the Allen leap, the Lamar leap in years past, Mahomes even. So that's Monday. Which of these top 10 quarterbacks that we just talked about will end up on most of your teams? Brady.

Yeah. Tanner Hill. And then who are you most scared of busting for me? It is Herbert. Yeah, it's Herbert for me, too, even though I'm betting on talent. Ooh, make it a baker's dozen. All right. Wait, a baker's dozen is three now? Yeah, what was it? What did you mean there? I just was saying, I agreed. I agreed. I agreed, and I just wanted to do it emphatically. He's trying to push it through as though it made sense. I know it did make sense. I like this. Okay.

A baker's doesn't. That's how many defensive players that are on the field. That's right. 13. They sent all 13 after Derek Henry. That's right. Next week, along with that Monday show, we have the tips and tricks show next week. Oh, baby. We have our my guys next week. What, Brooks? And there's a mock draft show next week. Oh, man.

We've got to enter the time machine for that My Guys episode. I want to make sure I get this right. I'm doing, and listen, I'm doing some good work on these top 10 on these top 10 tips and tricks. What do you mean? Look, I've got me. I have impressed myself. Even myself. I'm telling you, just wait for the top 10 tips and tricks episode. You want to handle all 10? No, no. But we've got our. But three of them will be.

Some of the best work. Our writer Matt DeSorbrough, a PhD in data science from Harvard working on some stuff. So don't miss that episode. You might need a translator. That's right. Okay. All right. That'll do it for today's episode. Hope you enjoyed the show. Check out the Ultimate Draft Kit at Ultimate DraftKit. If you want to get a leg up on your league mates. And check us out on Twitter at the FF Ballers. Lots of live streams and things going on this week. Goodbye.

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