Week 4 Studs & Stinkers + Weekly Rewind, Bounce Back Bobby

If you throw a touchdown in there, it would be a nicer game. But obviously, again, another disappointing performance from Sonny Michelle. 17 carries. Unless you're in a point per carry league, you're not happy with this week. Washington and the Giants are next up, as we have said for the New England Patriots. I think he should be fine. Yeah, you watch the practice reports with Rex Burkett. If he's still missing practices and dealing with injuries, you might see more of this where you're giving the complete lion's share of the carries.

to Sony, and Buffalo's defense is great. So you can't really, you know, Sony against Washington, against the Giants, those are matchups where if he's getting the carries, you're going to have a fine fantasy. 3.7 a carry is like made of, that's like in his dreams right now. That's what he did against Buffalo after the start of this season. So maybe brighter days with those two matchups coming up. What do you do with some of these superstars? Let's go through four superstar wide receivers.

ending up in these stinkers of the week. Let's make it fine. Let's make it six. Six Superstar wide received. Odell Beckham, DeAndre Hopkins, Adam Thielen, Julio Jones, Keenan Allen, Amari Cooper. Well, first, okay, so we let's narrow this discussion. You got to talk about Odell Beckham and DeAndre Hopkins because Julio Jones has been great. I'm not worried about Julio. It was an off game. It happens for everybody. But DeAndre Hopkins is like,

Three weeks in a row. Yes. There's no functional advice that you can give for fantasy owners on Beckham, Hopkins, Julio, or Keenan Elm. They are, regardless of what they did this week, there's nothing physically wrong with them. They're the number one on their team, and you have to play them. So there's nothing functional you can do about that. Yeah. But Adam Thielen, six targets. He came out and roasted the team for not. They said, look, even with the best running back in the league,

There's a little tip of the cap to Delvin Cook. You can't run for 180 yards a game. You have to be able to throw the football. All this money is investing in Kirk Cousins. And here Adam Thielen ends up with two for six on six targets. And if you are a Diggs or a Thielen owner, Diggs had a pretty good week. Yeah, Diggs, of course. Of course Diggs puts up 100 yards on the bears. Of course he does. But what do you do? Man. And are these guys just going to switch weeks because the passing volume is so low?

I don't think that either Thielen nor Diggs, they are trustworthy on a weekly basis. You can throw them in and hope. You get the Stefan Diggs 100-yard game. But Adam Thielen is right. I mean, you can't, when their entire offense is just running the ball because you have turned off the faucet of your passing game. Like you're not getting any reps in it. And then all of a sudden you really, really need your passing game. You're like, oh, crap, we're.

We don't excel in this. This is going to happen. The Vikings, they really need to figure out how to get the pat. You've got to get both of these sides of your offense work. You can't just be a running team. I don't believe in today's NFL. You need to figure out how to get Kurt Cousins going. He's had great games for you in the past. But with the offense that is in front of them,

horrific. He looks horrifically bad, and I don't think that that's the quarterback that he actually is. I still trust Adam Thielen. This is the Chicago Bears. Through the first three weeks, Adam Thielen, he had 75 yards in week two, a touchdown week one, a touchdown week three. He's...

He's someone where I totally agree. He's not the dominant star of last year. You trust him as like a two though. Yeah. Well, I trust him as a low and one high end two. Wow. No, I'm not in that one cat. You look at the four game comparison this year to last year's first four games. Adam Thieland went from, and I don't have the numbers right in front of me, but I saw it this weekend. He went from 480 yards in the first four games last year to like 170. I don't trust him as a one by any stretch. Mike, you were at no.

He is saving his weeks with touchdowns. And yet I guess we're just looking at it differently where you're looking at it. Yeah, he scored a touchdown in week one and week three. I'm looking at it as if my wide receiver one has to score a touchdown, then he's not a wide receiver one. If I can't get a good week's worth of production just on receptions and yards alone, you are to. Here's the numbers. Scott Barrett, put these out.

Weeks 1 through 4 last year. 40 receptions, 473 yards for Thielen. And I know it was an exceptional first half. But still, 40 receptions. This year, weeks 1 through 4. 13 receptions. That's a quarter. Right. 179 yards compared to 473. It's just trust. It's a trust problem. I don't think Adam Thielan is one of the top 10 receivers in football. I think he's a monster.

And maybe the squeaky wheel treatment is what he's going to get this week. The combination of squeaky wheel with the fact that the Vikings are now two and two, they lost this game and they clearly need to get Kirk Cousins going. Adam Thielen is actually just a really great wide receiver in real life in the NFL. I think those things are going to make it to where he's going to be okay. Maybe one is too high. Maybe that's gone for him, but I still think he's a guy that I'm going to have in my lineup everywhere I have him.

is Sammy Watkins a mirage guys three for 54 on six targets fumbled didn't get into the end zone three straight weeks you were disappointed he was in the end zone right he didn't hold on to the ball for a couple seconds but anybody anybody can get that like I mean through three weeks the past three weeks he was in the 40s I mean I don't know what he finished this week is probably in the 40s or 50s at the position so you really did not get

what you wanted from him three or four weeks. I still think you're fine here. Like Mike said, he had the touchdown that was punched out. It was an incredible punch. Knocked the ball out. Otherwise, I mean, if he, if he catches that, we're talking about, oh, great, he had a great bounce back game. It didn't. And, you know, he still got open on a couple of big plays, the upcoming schedule, Washington, or I'm sorry, the, got the Colts next and then Houston. Yes.

I think that, I think Sammy is still, still someone that he's leading in targets from Pat Mahomes. And that's what I want to trust. Fantasy owners probably regret not trading him high, though, after week one. I mean, they have to regret that, right? Lots of offers came in. Yes. For Sammy Watkins. And over the last three weeks, you've had somebody outside the top 36 at the position. The Marcus Robinson did nothing.

I was going to say, McCall Hardman did nothing. This was the outlier for Patrick Mahomes. The Lions have a good team. Yes. Yeah, yeah, they do have a good team. But no one, aside from in the passing game anyways, Travis Kelsey had a fine game, but none of the wide receivers for Kansas City went off this week. Depending on your scoring format, McColl Hardman may have finished with negative points. DJ Moore, Curtis Samuel, tough game by Kyle Allen.

What's your confidence level with DJ Moore Curtis Samuel moving forward? They have Jacksonville on the docket. Not great next week. Yeah. Not great, Bob. Not great, Bob. I mean, we knew being out here in the Valley that the Kyle Allen love he was getting great job, but that was the Arizona Cardinals defense as well. You're going to come screaming back to Earth. Greg Olson as well had a miserable game. And yet, Christian McCaffrey carried that team on his on his back and they won.

They won the game. Did you guys watch the Cam Newton video? Yes, in its entirety. It was awesome. So it validated kind of the speculation I brought up before of like, I don't think his team knew he was hurting when you called him liars. And so it was evident that he didn't let them know that he was hurting. But he also talked about that he couldn't run and move and practice. I mean, if you're a coach, part of your job as a coach is to watch your players and then coach them. I mean, you had to have known.

watching Cam Newton move around to practice that he's hurt. Yeah, sure, but that's different than lying about it. I stick with my statements. You stake with your statement? I stake with my stitment. Okay, dokey. All right. Well, Cam Newton's not coming back until he's 100%. That's what you got out of this video and what was evident. And he said he couldn't push off. He couldn't run. He couldn't do the things that he wanted to do. So hopefully when you get him back, you're getting...

real Cam Newton back on this offense. And they're winning. They've won both games without him because they've held on. Their defense is playing well. And Christian McCaffrey is an absolute monster. I think what the video did help with one. I mean, it's a nice look at the human being of Cam Newton. I mean, it was very honest, very transparent, which you rarely get from athletes. So it's just, it was very refreshing to see. But on top of that, what you're saying, Andy, when he comes back, you know you're getting.

The running Cam Newton, the fantasy stud, Cam Newton, we'll be back once he's starting again for Carolina, which is great news because we would have no idea. Without this information, when Cam Newton came back, are you going to have confidence really to start him week one? That's why, see, I just, I'm going to be the counterbalance here.

Ron Rivera bashing because to me it spoke so highly of the organization and Ron Rivera that you're in a position there where you trust your quarterback. If your quarterback says he's fine, which is what he said, and then you defend him publicly, that's a great coach. That's what a great coach does. You defend your guy regardless of what you know. If your quarterback says he's fine, you have to publicly defend him to the media. So I was impressed with that. When he said, look, I've got the support of Ron Rivera in the organization. It spoke highly to me of Carolina.

But I like Riverboat, Ron. I've never, I've been a fan of him. Never called him a liar? I haven't. Okay. Oh, hey, hey, but in fairness, I definitely thought he was lying. I did not call him a liar. You screamed. I called him. I called him. I called him a big fat liar. Okay. Thank you for clarifying. Because the size of the lie was gigantic. As this show's gone on, I've become more concerned about being able to hold on to that bar for five minutes. Oh, yes. Oh.

I want you to know that. Because I think the seconds will tick by a lot slower when I'm hanging there. Come minute three? I'm a little concerned. You're not making it to three. Well, I'm going to do my very best. That's for sure. I want a long video here for YouTube. I'm concerned. At this point, saving face, can I make it a minute? Can I make it two minutes? I'm a little more concerned. At the beginning, well, look, if I'm hanging from a drone flying over a city, my survival.

Now, I can hang as long as I want. Like, I can readdress my hands. Yeah. Of course you can readjust your hands as long as your feet don't touch the ground. So as long as I'm not falling, I can do whatever I want moving my hands of course. Okay. All right. Oh, you're back to fine. Look, if there's one guy in this office that can open a pickle jar, it's me. You've got the strong hands. So I'm betting on my large mitts in this situation. You ever opened a pickle jar that was a 200 pound man? I'm 194 pounds, Mike.

Stinkers of the week presented by odor eaters. I hope I don't end up in that category. Odor eaters, the best in odor defense. You're about to be a stinker. Hey, if you have Matt, let me ask you a real question here. Vance McDonald, doubtful for tonight. If you are, you were so foolish, you held on to him through the weekend. Would you pivot? Would you be willing to drop Vance McDonald?

to pick up somebody like Eifford tonight to save your team. Yes, I would. And then just go back to the waiver wire to pick him back up if you need to. Obviously, it's going to depend on your situation. You might know you already won the game, in which case, just put Vance out there with the goose egg if you want. But otherwise, I don't think he's going to play. I think you have to get Eifert.

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It's not the letter. So Kirk Cousins is alliteration. Yeah. So you could have started Kirk Cousins, Mike. Oh. Wouldn't that have been a real thrill? That would have been unwise. It said the franchise this week. Pristineauction.com user registration code. Ballers tomorrow is our waiver wire show. So come back. Enjoy the game tonight. See if Joe Mixing and Company can compete in Pittsburgh. We'll see you tomorrow. Football clan. Goodbye.

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