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Maybe they get a better quarterback, you know, Tyrod is not any better for his... We haven't gotten there yet. I'm just saying, I'm talking about his quarterback situation. The quarterback situation is going to be at best lateral, not up. The offense situation, I think, is going to be lateral. I just don't see the targets being there for his skill set. I think it's a really strong take. I mean, I don't think that you can paint the picture as,

Jarvis is going to somehow improve. Mike's right. I mean, the distribution, the priority he was in the Miami offense. I think he could get close, though. I think he could get pretty close from a time. The problem that I have is you have 74 receptions that went to Duke Johnson. And so either Duke Johnson is going to get extended or they're going to invest a pick on a pass catching back like Barkley. So you need to commit 60 to 80 receptions to the running back position.

Where Jarvis is a, he's kind of an extended running back in the slot. You have the opportunity to give him the ball at the line of scrimmage or behind so often. Now, they need that. They'll use that. And I don't think Jarvis is going to go, you know, and be something he isn't in Cleveland. But you do have Josh Gordon, Corey Coleman. I think they'll sign somebody else, whether there's trial prior or somebody bigger even. So for my numbers here, I'm showing Miami.

had the highest amount of their targets go to the wide receiver position in the league. I'm guessing Cleveland's got zero the least. Cleveland was down at 26. Yeah. Yeah. Last year as a whole. I mean, the leading receiver was Duke Johnson. He had the most receptions on the team. You had Miami with 602 passing attempts. You had Cleveland with 574 last year, 567 the year before. Do you think that there will be anybody out there that is arguing that Todd Haley's

system. He's going to plug in Jarvis into the Antonio Brown role that did soak up those targets. Take a Josh Gordon make him more of the Martavis Bryant field stretcher role. Is there any argument to be had there from a scheme standpoint? Jarvis can't do what Antonio Brown can. No one can. But Jarvis is up there near the most talented. He was the eighth ranked fantasy wide receiver last year.

So the question that I have for you is, what do you give him as a number? Where is he going to, this half point league? Where does he finish in a half point league? Is he still worthy of wide receiver one consideration? No, not for me. Okay. Not, not for me either. So Jarvis Landry next year or Doug Baldwin? Baldwin, buy a lot. Juju Smith-Schuster or Jarvis Landry? Jarvis. That's an interesting question. I lean Jarvis. Stefan Diggs or Jarvis. Who would you rather have?

Jarvis. Okay. So after all that smack talk, you got faith in their offense. You win in with Jarvis. My point is that he cannot go, I don't even think it's going to be lateral. I don't see him as number eight. I think he's going to finish around that wide receiver 15, 16. He's still a consistent guy. And the routes he runs, he's, you know, he's a volume based. He's a great player. He is. He really is. But last year, nine touchdowns. That was an outlier. And it's not happening with Cleveland.

Yeah, so receptions are going down. Touchdowns are going down. He's going to throw for more yardage. Nowhere near wide receiver one. All right. So more, wait, outside the top 24? I was thinking about the number of my head in that that 20 to 24 range is where he will likely end up for me. All right. Let's talk about Tyrod Taylor, new Cleveland Brown quarterback. Yes. Traded from the bills to Cleveland.

I've read some things saying that he was a top choice ahead of the McCarran trade last year. So they've had their eyes on Tyrod for a while for whatever reason. And he was traded for a third round pick. Look, Tyrod, I found a meme from literally one year ago today. And I had made some jokes about Tyrod Taylor because he had no white outs. I mean, in Buffalo. This was like Sammy was leaving, and I'm thinking Tyrod's got no weapons.

What odds? What chances do you have there? Now you have Cleveland likely to draft a quarterback very high, but have publicly said they don't want to start a rookie in week one. So tie rod you guy week one, right? Yes, week one. Here is, my take on this is this was an awful trade, an awful, awful trade for the Cleveland Browns. They gave up a third round pick. And if I'm...

Not mistaken, the first pick. Correct. Top pick in the third round. That's a starter. Oh, definitely. That is a starter for your team regardless of offense or defense. You have now grabbed a bridge quarterback, as they want to call him. Because he's still not under contract. He's not on a contract next year. The Cleveland Browns have the 101 and the 104 pick. Now, unless there is some huge smokescreen here and the Cleveland Browns are not going to take a quarterback.

with one of those two picks. Then trading for Tyrod is fine. But in this day and age, when you draft a rookie quarterback in the top five before the end of the year, they will be playing. They will be given the job and they will be given the job. They'll be given the opportunity to fail for about three to four years. Three years minimum for a rookie taken at the 105. You've given up a starter for your team for a quarterback to come in and start.

Six games? In Cleveland's defense, they have two more, I think they had two more picks. I don't care. Oh, no, I'm sorry. I was looking at the second round. They have three second rounders ahead of that first pick in the third round. Yeah, load up your entire team. Yeah, I mean, it's fair. They don't have another pick until the middle of the fourth. So they'll be drafting at 64 and then the middle of the fourth round. What's interesting to me here is that? But you need to win games. Do you? Yes. What?

Do you? Do you need to win games? Owen 16 says they don't, but Hugh Jackson's like, oh, I got to start with the game. But Hugh Jackson doesn't control the personnel. Hugh Jackson. Thanks, Sashi. It's not Sashi anymore, but the GM controls all that stuff. The GM just got signed. He knows he's good moving into next year. I mean, this is the perennial disrespect of Tyra Taylor. Tyra Taylor is the quarterback for a playoff team last year.

Right. He's also been a fantasy relevant player for multiple years. And I don't want my take. And now he has Gordon, Landry, Duke, whomever they draft in that first round. I do not want my take of the Cleveland Brown's terrible trade to reflect on my opinion of Tyra Taylor, who I think is a fine middle of the pack quarterback. He's not great, but he is a starter in this league. This is the great challenge for us as fantasy owners. Now we have the greatest bias we could have.

an 0 and 16 Brown's team with lots of weapons who, look, whether they end up with Barclay or they end up with Penny or Geis or another running back, they're going to have a running back or two that they draft that will be prognosticating. They're going to have Gordon and Coleman and Landry and Duke that we're going to be, yeah, so weapons all over the field that we're all going to have to.

The question is, are you going to dismiss them because they're the Browns for no good reason? History is a great reason. And I think that history has taught me to bet against the Browns. Yes, and history taught you to bet against the Jags. And you would have been burnt last year. I don't think the Jags history is anywhere remotely close. I remember the good old days with MJD. You know, Josh Gordon, number one wide receiver, a few.

many, many years back. Yeah, yeah, several years ago. Braylin Edwards, Derek Anderson. Crowell two years ago. Peyton. I'm not going to completely dismiss them. And you have, now you have Todd Haley, who's offensive, his offensive mind has brought us much, much. And Hugh Jackson, guys. Wolverine is coaching players. I am in. I know it's not a safe place to be. No, it's not. It's a bad place to be. This is walking up to the edge without the railing there.

But I'm telling you, I believe in Hugh Jackson. I believe in the personnel. I don't know why. I believe in Dorsey and the personnel he's bringing in. And I have no skin in the game. I've never been a Browns fan. This isn't bias coming. You are going Thelman Louise next year. Yeah. Yeah, you, well, no, no, because I'm pretty sure she had someone with her in the car in the car. That's no. That's no. On the Gus bus. Gus is in the back of the car with us. He's with me. Yeah.

I am, I think I am going to. How do you feel about Cory Coleman now, Jay? Oh, it sucks. This sucks because I like Cory Coleman. They're going to sign another whiteout too. The reality is there won't be enough quality targets to go around to everyone, especially what, look, Tyrod, I agree. He is a fine enough quarterback, but he's not this guy that's going to throw the ball.

you know, up near the top 10 in the league and succeed. That's never been his game. Well, Hugh Jackson doesn't want to do that. Right. But you could say he doesn't have the weapons. But, I mean, he had Sammy Watkins and Marquis Goodwin and Robert Woods, these guys that are. He had none of those last year. No, but I'm saying he's had them before. And he didn't turn them into anything great. So now he's supposed to go to Cleveland. That's a pretty.

Look, I get it, but Watkins was always hurt. Woods was not putting in a position. I mean, too many targets. You're right about the fact that his offensive prowess equates to about 3,500 passing yards. That part you're right about. I will like Tyrod Taylor for fantasy. You know, you give him the weapons, the touch on opportunities, you give him the opportunity to run and the outlandish way that fantasy football records running quarterback's value.

I'll like him at the beginning of the year to draft as a streaming quarterback. We haven't even mentioned David and Joku is there as well. Yeah, David and Joku. Talent. The talent for the Cleveland Browns is incredible. What now? I'm just, I'm just, if you want to argue against Jarvis Landry, last year, Duke Johnson, 74 receptions. Do you know the next highest reception total for the Cleveland Brown? Fifth. Not the person, the amount. Give me both, actually. Because if you can get either even close, I'll be amazed.

Hmm. Okay. So the second leading receiver. The second by reception count. Yes. The second leading receiver by reception. Gordon only played five games. Coleman didn't do much. There's no way it was in Joku, right? Nope. But he was second. He was close. 33 receptions was the next closest to the 74 that Duke Johnson received. Hold on. Seth DeValve. Yeah. With 33. Yep. David and Joku with 32. Okay. So you're still not touching a wide out.

Isaiah Cruel was then fourth with 28. Here's your first wide out. Richard Higgins and Ricardo Lewis tied with 27 receptions. Corey Coleman, 23, Josh Gordon, 18. Kenny Britt 18. Sammy Co. This is why you needed to go trade for Jarvis Landry. I mean, that is unbelievable. Wow. They also traded away to Sean Kaiser to the Green Bay Packers. Congratulations, Green Bay. You get a better backup quarterback? Yeah. Someone who can.

Possibly be the future. You have no idea. Yeah. That's where I wanted him to be drafted. He won't be done. Last year he was my number one prospect. You know it's not Hundley is what I'm saying. But I wanted Kaiser to go to a place like Green Bay or Kansas City where there are known commodities of people that have trained quarterbacks to be successful in the league. Instead, he went to the worst place he could, Cleveland Browns, and now he's been liberated. All right. We have a couple minutes left. Let's jump into the mailbag.

Mailbag. Brown's Edition. Browns Edition. Browns Edition? This is just any question. All right. Actually, I think we asked for non-Browns questions. We did. Brooks is naughty. Yeah. If you have a question, you go to the website, the fantasy footballers.com. Click on the submitted question button or dial our voicemail hotline 302-464 TFFB. Always love your voicemail questions. We're going to kick it off with a voicemail question. Hey, fantasy footballers.

And Mike Wright, don't know if you're verified yet. Not verified. Polly the ravioli coin. Two-part question here. First question, you bowl of ravioli. You like red sauce or white sauce, aka tomato or alfredo. Second question, while you're eating that bowl of ravioli, you're picking ninth in the standard league. Are you two quarterback? Are you picking a breeze, Alvin Camara, David Johnson, or Hopkins? Thank you.

It's Polly the Ravioli starting out. Is it going, is he stretching out to be Polly? Poli. It started as Polly. Polly the Ravioli. Polly the Ravioli. Polly the Ravioli. Because he rhymes. Yeah, no, I. All right. First one, white sauce, red sauce. If it's ravioli, it's white sauce. It's white sauce. It's funny. If it's ravioli, it's red sauce for me. Yeah, I actually. But I like Fettuccini Alfredo. I feel like that guy. If it's ravioli, I'm going red, but I prefer white sauce. Yes. Alfredo.

I love Alfred. Actually, I cannot think of a time in my life. I've had ravioli with white sauce. That's why. I've never had that. It would probably come over to my house. Jason does whatever he wants with food. You darn right. All right. Two quarterback league pick one, Breeze, Camara, DJ, or Hopkins at that point in the draft. Wow. It's not Breeze. No. To me, even a two quarterback, it would go David Johnson, probably Hopkins, then Camara, followed last by Drew Breeze. Wow.