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The TRUTH About Fantasy QBs: Part 2 + Dynasty Mailbag - Fantasy Football Podcast for 1/20

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The TRUTH About Fantasy QBs: Part 2 + Dynasty Mailbag - Fantasy Football Podcast for 1/20

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I won't just, you know, close my eyes and keep playing him through poor play if that's what happens. But I would be drafting him as a weekly starter. Four names to finish out the top 20, one name that I want to talk about inside of them. You can talk about the others, but there's one that I care about. All right. Jimmy G is number 17, consistency rank at 23. You have Mac Jones, who's a consistency rank of 21. He finished at 18.

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You have Taylor Heineke at 19, consistency rank at 28, whatever. Matt Ryan at 20 finished consistency rank at 19. I wonder who you want to talk about. Is it Mac Jones? Of course it's Mac Jones because the other three, why would we want to talk about those guys? Matt Ryan's retired soon. On the field. On the field. He's taking the big Ben approach where he's retiring the last couple years playing. And then. Taylor Heineke's not worth a discussion. Exactly. And Jimmy G. I mean, we could.

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We could sit here and do the same old Kyle Shanahan, Tray Lance, Jimmy G. Triangle of Doom. What to talk about, but not for fantasy. He's irrelevant for fantasy. And Mac Jones, I have a big note here. Kyle is very adamant. He wants me to save Mack Jones discussion for mid-February when we do a rookie review show. No. Uh-oh. We're going to talk about it a little bit right now. And we can talk about it. Just because you didn't do the research yet doesn't mean that we can't talk about it. We can do whatever we want, Kyle. He's not even here right now.

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Goodness. Which is great. Now, Mac never gave you great games, but he's a rookie. And this was a team who, I thought about talking about them and our team that kind of surpassed expectation. Then I remembered that you didn't really want to play any of them, still, which was the expectation. The running game was good. Damien Harris, Ramandre. But Mac Jones, from a functional standpoint, can he go from great rookie season, great debut, great leader, great...

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mover of the offense to great fantasy player. Is that a possibility for Mack Jones? No. Never? I think he can go from a great rookie season to a good fantasy option. I don't know that he'll ever make that leap to great. When you are a true pocket passer and you're not going to add just about anything with his legs, especially as his career goes on, you have to be, you know, 4,500.

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38 touchdowns you don't think you can get you don't think that mac jones can get to joe burrow i mean i i think that that would be the comp i think that i don't not not in that system with the weapons is that yeah i guess that's what i'm asking because they're both pocket passers mac jones is very good at getting out of the pocket not running

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But getting out to the exterior, making – he made some impressive plays this year with the right personnel. Obviously, he doesn't have Jamar Chase and T. Higgins and company. That's the difference for me. My point is, like, over the course of his career, do you see him competing? I certainly think – There's a dynasty question, really. I certainly think that Mack Jones is a very good dynasty asset and will be a quality streaming guy throughout his career. You know, if you had rookie Derek Carr, Derek Carr was so valuable over –

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you know, the course of seven years for fantasy purposes, plugging them in here or there. That's more the comp as far as fantasy production that I see for Mac Jones. Is a Derek Carr? Let me make this brutal for you. Okay. Mike, you can chime in. You're drafting a dynasty startup. You're choosing Mac Jones or Russell Wilson at 34 years old. Hmm. Dynasty startup, I'd still take Russ. I would as well.

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All right. Maybe not that hard. Mac Jones or Tom Brady. It's funny because we've talked about the philosophical argument of if you can get one season of dominance, is that worth more than seven seasons of mediocrity that you could maybe plug in a line? He's not going to ever win you a championship. Like, is Tom Brady better I'm not trying to be too.

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you know, hot takey here, but it's just a funny thing to think about. How many more years does Tom play? Because he's back next year no matter what. Yeah, I think that he retires at 45. I think he plays next year, plays excellent, and walks away. But I would not be surprised if he's playing to 50. I really wouldn't. If he decides, I mean, thank you. He said he wants to play to 50, right?

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Did he move the number? He always said 45 for a long time. He said he wanted to play to 45. That's how Brady always moving the goalpost. Now he's like getting to 45 and he's playing so well. He puts a thought on my head that if Tom Brady really did play to 50. Like if you just said he was retiring when he turns 50? Yeah. Obviously he might not be great for the next five years. But. He's pretty good fantasy assets. Just think about that. For a dynasty league, you get, let's see you get three more good years of Brady. When does Bruce retire? When Brady retires?

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Because honestly, as great as Tom Brady has played, he is, he was very, very deliberate in the team that he picked. He went to a team that was fully loaded with elite offensive skill players, a very good defense, and head coach that his offensive philosophy is go deep. He should take over at coach. I'm not joking.

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Oh, back to the old player coach? I mean, once you hit a certain age, aren't you technically a coach? Yeah, I think you have, I assume that the other players call him Coach Brady. I want him walking off the offensive side of the ball, putting on a headset and calling the defense. No, it's just so, it's amazing. And we're going to look back in 15 years and tell our kids or whatever, you know, grandkids someday, like we got to watch this guy play. Our grandkids are going to be watching him play. What are you talking about? Okay.

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All right. Fair enough. Let's do a little dynasty mailbag. Mailbag. Joe. Joey McLean. From the greater Mississippi area. Says, all right, guys. Dynasty question. Just coming off at Joe Mix and RB4 overall season. Is this the time to sell high? And if so, would a smart trade be to go Joe Joe for Kyle Pitts? If I was in a PPR Dynasty League.

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I would trade Joe Mixon for Kyle Pitts. I would too. In a heartbeat. Joe Mixon is not that old. He's 25 and a half years old. That's fine. He should have another couple years of relevance. I think he's a good dynasty asset. I would not be searching to unload him right this second. I think at the end of next year is when you're probably trying to peak his value before the wheels come off. But if I could trade him, like there's no chance in a dynasty startup. I would draft.

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Joe Mixon ahead of Kyle Pitts. That's just impossible for me to imagine. And that's more a product of running back shelf life versus Kyle Pitts shelf life. It'll be interesting. Like I'm, every year I try to think about which running backs, it's time to move from in Dynasty. You know, and I have a team that's got, I have Zeke, I've got McCaffrey, Cook. I have Dalvin Cook. And they're all in that category of like, they're on teeter, totter. Yeah. And, you know, Dalvin Cook, he's not that old.

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You know, he's just not. Is he? He's not? He's not. Give me the Delvin Cook exact age. He's 26 years old. He's 26.5 years old. Birthday and August, so he'll be 27 coming to this season. And 27 is an age that I fear, and he's 28. Derek Henry's 28. Yeah, no, I'm terrified of Derek Henry. So, yeah, all those guys, you try to time it up, you know, Joe Mixing is not a sell, active sell. But if this trade was in front of me, I would say yes.

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Agreed. Connor and Dayton, Ohio, would you rather have Aaron Jones or Saquan in a full PPR dynasty? That is. This is great because it's not a question of which one you really want. It's a matter of which one you want, like which one you dislike less. I would take Sequin. Aaron Jones is a full two years older than Sequin Barclay. And there's a lot of question marks about, look, it's an easy sequel. Easy. Not even close.

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Is Sequin? Sequin is the starting running back to that team for a while, where Aaron Jones is going to, what, at a minimum platoon with an ascending Dylan? Yes. The platoon is real. Two years older? But Sequin Barclay has sucked. Sequin Barclay is, this is year five. So this is it for him being on the New York Giants. And the Giants are going to be terrible.

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More than likely. It's hard to see the path that they change things so much that they're actually a strong offense. And we've seen Barkley. He needs a good positive game script to really thrive. And is he going to get the massive second contract? Probably. I think it's probably. But Aaron Jones has it. He's on it right now. He's secure.

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I mean, we're going to get into truth episodes. Maybe we pause the Aaron Jones evaluation when we talk about running backs, the truth of Aaron Jones, because this year was not all that it could have been for Aaron Jones either. Okay, so Sequin missed some games this year, obviously. So we want to look at points per game on how he did. Do we, though? Points per game for Sequin. Where do you think he ranks? RB 20. A little hard. He missed four games in the...

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He was knocked out right away. So three opportunities. Sure. I'm going to guess 25. It's going to skew it poorly. 25. 35, running back 35 on a points per game basis. So it's like. I'm getting as 35. He scares me the way that Todd Gurley's scared. You know, it's like, is he ever going to get back to being great? Because when you watch the game, and maybe I'm alone in this. No.

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I thought Booker looked like the better running backer of Saquo. I thought so too. And I totally get what you're saying, that Saquan is younger. He is the starter versus. There will be another year back from the ACL. Yeah. And AJ Dylan is, I'm not even sure. I probably want A.J. Dylan more than I want Aaron Jones. But Aaron Jones still looks good, right? Like Aaron Jones is dominating when he's getting the ball just from an eyeball test. So I don't know. That one's really close to me. So call it.

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I'm going to go Aaron Jones. I think you have part of this decision to me is you have to call your shot on Aaron Rogers. Is Aaron Rogers a Green Bay Packer next year? I've always thought he would be. Then I would want Aaron Jones. Yeah, it's tough. You got to split vote. Make your decision. Yeah, you got to draw, you got to make your decision on Sequin recovering. You know, he came off an ankle injury in the back half of the year. It's worse than the back half of the year. Had a couple top then finishes in the front of it. And he's coming off the ACL. So it's like, could you wake up?

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Yeah, absolutely. He could. Zeke or Barclay in a dynasty? Barkley. Zique. You think Zeke bounces back? Truth episodes for running. They're coming soon. Should I trade Elijah Mitchell for Michael Pittman in a half-PPR dynasty league? Lee and Ottawa wants to know. Yes, absolutely. Yeah, you probably should. Tanner and Regina, Saskatchewan. Oh, bonjour. It's been a while. Who wins this half-PPR dynasty trade? Team one receives Christian McCaffrey.

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Oh, my gosh. Team 2 receives Chris Godwin and pick 104. Well, that's fun. Christian McCaffrey, you devil. I have gotten, we just talked about my roster, right? Yeah. So I've had to go to dive on all these guys and make decisions about who I'm shopping. I'm not shopping McCaffrey. I'm not shopping Christian McCaffrey. Yeah, but would you take Godwin in the 104? I probably should, but I won't.

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Yeah, I don't blame you. But, I mean, Godwin coming off of the ACL, he'll be okay. But so many questions right now of... I'm not doing that. I'm McCaffrey. Does he have to sign a one year? Duh. He's a franchise this year, right? So he will not get double franchised. I can't imagine by Tampa Bay. It will be so much money. Don't know what team he's playing for. When will he be ready during the season?

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Yeah, and then there's a lot of question marks with the 104. I take the CMC side here. Oh, my gosh. Prediction on Godwin, one-year deal in Tampa Bay, Tampa Bay Buccaneers. That would be my same prediction. I think Brady will get what Brady wants, and Brady wants Godwin back on that team. And that probably makes a lot of sense for that. Probably all one years for all those guys for a little while. Just every year. Brady, you win, you out. Are you going to do this one more? Well, not Antonio Brown. Probably not. No, no. A done year.

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