from Lamar Jackson with the rushing with the highest upside. And that's why I'm willing to have him at four, you know, even though, you know, you might think, oh, well, what happened last year to put him at 10? He just, he played to probably his average. He's not the best quarterback in the league. He was the MVP, took the league by storm, is the best Russian quarterback of all time, but he's not the best quarterback.
Early Top 12 QB Rankings + Dynasty Download, Ultimate Draft Week! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 4/27
Early Top 12 QB Rankings + Dynasty Download, Ultimate Draft Week! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 4/27
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125 passagesSix games outside the top 15 last year. That's as many as Cam Newton and Carson wins. Mike, your thoughts on Lamar. So it came down to the touchdown rate, which was that was kind of the thing we were bringing up last off season of every 9% of Lamar Jackson's passing attempts turned into passing touchdowns, which is just an absurd number. When players hit that type of a threshold, we frequently see them.
dropped by 2% even more. And he fell to a very nice 6.9%, but it was not very nice for your fantasy team. Now, let me ask you guys this question, because I want to try and put some context in here. Our League of Record, we have to put the three, we've talked about it, we keep three players, but we have a lottery. So inside of the lottery, I can go with three top 24 wide receivers with Calvin Ridley.
uh, Keenan Allen and DJ Moore. Or I can replace DJ Moore with Lamar Jackson and spin the lotto wheel that way. How would you approach that situation where would you be happier that you ended up with Lamar or would you be happier that you ended up with DJ Moore and one of the superstars? I would personally be much happier with the wide receivers. I mean, I think about it in a draft.
If I was in a draft, they would not draft Lamar Jackson over those players. Yeah, and you might be right, but I would go Lamar Jackson. I'm leaning that way right now. Because I know you're getting another wide receiver. I know you have a top tier wide receiver with that other lottery pick. And so I think that the difference on your team and being a little bit uncertain about DJ Moore makes me think a little, you know, he's fringe wide receiver two. Yeah. And you get a guaranteed top.
And that's where I am. Like my think, my thought process is if the, the wheel spins a direction and I get Keenan Allen and DJ Moore. Yeah, I'm like, yes, I'm very happy I got Keenan, but, you know, the weighing the how frustrated you are to lose Calvin Ridley and you got DJ Moore, who I love DJ Moore, but he's certainly not Calvin Ridley, or.
But this is emotional, maybe. And that's what I'm talking about. Because you want a title with Lamar. That is part of the fantasy football game. Your franchise player is Dalvin Cook. So I guess the way that I see it is if I were to draft Alvin Cook in the first round and I were to draft Calvin Ridley in the second round and, you know, the third round comes around. And it's Keenan Allen.
No, it would be DJ Moore. Keenan Allen would be, you would not be part of the option. Right. So, and I had the chance to draft in that situation. My roster is currently Dalvin Cook and Calvin Ridley. If I had to draft Lamar or DJ Moore, I would draft DJ more. Personally. That sounds like the right logic. So we're split. Yep. Yep. Leave it to the foot claim. I mean, I just want to give Lamar a chance to run it back. Possible.
possible. Dak Prescott comes in at number five. I thought I'd have more support here, but I don't. You do. I have him at three. You do. Jason and Mike have him at five. Jason's shaking his head. I'm shaking my head because I'm madly in love with Dak Prescott. I think you having him number three makes me super happy. I was worried that either one of you would have him very low. I can't put him above those other three guys who are known awesome commodities to me because of the...
Sure. Yeah, because you have him at five. Right, because of the injury. That's it. Like, if I knew he was perfectly healthy and finished the season, I would have no problem putting him up above Lamar Jackson. Amari Cooper, Citi, Lambichael Gallop. You know, that's the argument with Zeke and a great offense. And? Blake the Charwin. Yeah, yeah, Blake Charwin, baby. Took him a second. Yeah. I gave him the right answer. And he's like, wait.
Yeah, I mean, he had the ankle injury. He'll be back. Great floor. Awful defense still. Yeah, I just love the, I just love what I, what I'm getting from that. What's, we'll be fascinating for that. I basically ignored the injury here with this ranking. I do too. I throw the injury out. I think he's going to be good to go. No problem. And, you know, like the people listening right now.
You know, you're far more in tune with fantasy football. You're more of a hardcore player. And you realize what Dak Prescott can bring to your team. But when it comes time for August and you're playing in your social leagues, your friends and family leagues, it will be fascinating to watch how far does Dak Prescott drop in fantasy football rankings and in the ADP of players who aren't as plugged in as all of us? Because I think he will drop. I think that Dak Prescott can turn into someone.
in a casual league that you could grab in like the eighth or round or later. I could totally see that happening. If that's the case, he would be my number one target. I would rather get Dak in the eighth or ninth than spend a fourth on Kyler, even though I think Kyler's a better quarterback because I'm going to end up with a better roster at the end. What Dak was doing before he went down to injury was obviously unsustainable, obviously, because if you know those first four games were absurd, he was on pace for 67.
100 yards, 36 passing touchdowns, adding another 12 rushing touchdowns. He was just, he was unbelievable every single week, week, two, three, and four. He was, you know, the quarterback won on two different occasions. And it's the perfect combination with Dallas because you brought up all of the weapons. It's almost difficult for someone to not be good with those weapons and the terrible defense. I mean, that's what I look for in fantasy. I want my quarterback to have to win the game. Yeah, I'm giving him a complete injury, free pass.
putting him at three, keeping him on the trajectory he was showing at the beginning of last year, and seeing how it goes with an emerging CD-LAM. Number six, Aaron Rogers. He was six for me, six for Jason, six for Mike. Kind of had a good year, 4,200 yards, 48 touchdowns, five picks. Monster. Three rushing touchdowns. Finished at QB3. Devante Adams, Aaron Rogers, that's all he needs.
God forbid they add a weapon in the draft. Oh, never going to happen. Are we being disrespectful here? No, we're being fine. I don't think we are because while Aaron Rogers is a high volume touchdown quarterback, he hit the 9.1% of his attempts turned into touchdowns where he had been riding in the mid-fors.
for the last couple years. Yeah, number one in points per game last year. It was just, it was a research. It's not that, I mean, if Rogers is down in the, in the mid-force, he's still fine for fantasy football. He's just, he's not a league winning type.
three type of an option. Yeah, and we've seen this before with, oh, Aaron Rogers. Sure. You know, he had the year where he threw a 9% touchdown rate back in 2011 and was unbelievable. That was 2011, man. No, no, no, but my point is incredible. That is incredible. My point is that's prime Aaron Rogers. And even then, he dropped several percent the next year. You're just not.
keeping that level of touchdown positivity. And if he's up there at five or six percent above the NFL average, which I would expect, he's still going to end up a mid-quarterback one. He doesn't have the same rushing volume, the rushing touchdowns that these other top fantasy options. I mean, look at him the last two years prior, right? He played 16 games both years. He was the quarterback seven, the quarterback 10. That's his range.
If you're looking for Red Flag Faring Rogers, the efficiency numbers, and the offensive line, they've lost their all-pro center. I know what, Lindsay went to the charges, right? And, you know, you're not going to have David Bactiari back for week one because he missed, he tore his ACL and he missed six games, including the playoffs. So you could have a shaky offensive line situation to begin the year, especially if they're jelling new players on the offensive line. So a little bit of regression there.
I feel like he's still going to drop a draft further than maybe he should. So he's on the list for me. Yeah, I'd be very happy with Rogers if I could get him a little bit later. Next one's Russell Wilson. And then number eight is Jalen Hertz. Yeah, let's go, Jay. I'm just kidding. I just didn't want to talk about Russell Wilson again. You didn't even notice me, skip Russell Wilson entirely. No, whatever. Russell Wilson. Let's get to the hotness. Let's talk about Jalen Hertz.
All right, Russ finished at QB6 last year. 40 touchdowns, 13 picks. What is this offense going to be? I feel like we're going to spend the entire offseason speculating on its pass run ratios. Was this the most disappointing 40 touchdown season for a quarterback in history? Yes. It has to be. I mean, 16 different quarterbacks in history have thrown for 40 more passing touchdowns, and he had the fewest passing yards per game, lowest yards per completion, and most sacks taken among that group.
Yeah, I mean, and it was the tale of two halves. The first half of the year, if you drafted Russell Wilson, you were literally number one in your league because he was unstoppable. And then they changed up. They ran the ball more. And he played worse. Like, it wasn't just play calling. He was just. Yeah, he started to turn the ball over. Yeah, throwing interceptions, incompletes. He looked.
Bad the second half of the year. Number one in consistency for the first half, 18 number of the second half. Well, and the funny thing is if you go back the last several years now, he's been bad for consistency overall. You know, it's one of those things where, you know, career-wise, he's obviously as consistent as it gets. I don't think it's been since 2013 since he hasn't finished as a top 10 quarterback. But on a weekly basis.
It's playing with fire with Russ. He's a quarterback that I am not excited to have on my roster. Not when you could have Jalen Hertz. Exactly. Yeah, baby. Somebody with just a long track record of spectacular play much better than Russell Wilson. Yeah. It hurts all right. All right. We've talked about Jalen hurts this off season. I haven't met 12. You guys both have them at 7. I thought I was being nice at 12, getting him into my top 12. QB1. You're being a hater.
Yeah, it hurts. No, I mean, we've seen very little of Jalen Hertz. And I know he made it, he made his mark. We've had these arguments, these discussions. First game out, it was great, gangbusters. Wasn't a great passer. What's the rushing total is really going to be? They went down every game that he played. So what's the truth? I don't know the truth. I'd rather have all these other guys over Jalen Hertz and where I think that this team's going. New head coach, new offensive coordinator, who are the weapons?
Are they going to draft another quarterback? So the question marks have him down at 12, and if it, you know, we say stay water on this show, right? We want to change our opinions as new information comes. And if he becomes more secure and the team looks like it's in a little bit better shape, I mean, the old line's great, then maybe his ranking changes for me. The weapons on the team are his left and right leg. That's right. Those are the best two weapons. Absolutely. Last year, once he took over,
on pace for 184 rushing attempts, almost 1,100 rushing yards and 12 rushing touchdowns. That's all I need to hear about. That's all I care about. You give me some passing work on top of that to put a little cherry on the top. Then he's going to be great. I mean, there's just not a lot of quarterbacks in the history of the game that can.
reach 1,000 rushing yards. That's not to say he will. But, you know, if he's 800 plus rushing yards, he's going to be a quarterback one. There's just no way that that doesn't happen. Obviously, we've got to get through the NFL draft, make sure that, you know, a quarterback didn't fall there that replaces him. But, you know, they could walk away here with Jalen Waddle or DeVonte Smith and add to his capabilities. Yeah, and I just...
I don't know what it is yet. So I'm taking a more reserved approach with Mr. Hertz. Justin Herbert at 9 and Ryan Tannehill at 10. I have Herbert at 8. Jason has him at 9, Mike at 11. He's got a new head coach, new offensive coordinator as well. No Hunter Henry this year. Are you expecting a sophomore slump from Justin Herbert, Mike? Not a slump, but there's just, there's enough things that have changed with Justin Herbert for me to not just.
