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Fantasy Retirements + Week 5 Buy or Sell, Crazy Eights - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/7

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four or five yards and four or five touchdowns. It's fair. But with a hobbled, I'm not going on Brady. We were just talking before the show. Brady's been great. He really has three of the four weeks. He's been top ten. But at some point, you just, you know, one of those weeks was terrible for Brady. If he's got a hobbled Mike Evans, Chris Godwin very unlikely to be there. I see him as basically out. O.J. Howard.

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gone. You know, he was one of those five deep touchdowns he had. Against a good Bears D, I feel like I don't want to bet against Brady, but I'm going to do it again. There's no way I'm benching Evans. To his credit, and to your joke, seven for 122 hobbled last week with a touchdown. So decided to, I mean, he's got the same Mike Evans as last year, except for he threw touchdowns into his low yardage weeks. It's crazy. He was the fifth wide receiver in week two and the sixth this past week.

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Are you starting him, Mike? Because I certainly am. Yes, I am. But you got to monitor the practice report. What about Ronald Jones? Ronald Jones is a must start. The volume is there. Leonard Fournette is trended to a game time decision. I can't imagine that Fornett is going to play. You're going to have Ronald Jones and rookie running back, Kishon Vaughn backing him up. You know, Ronald Jones is the primary runner. You're probably going to see Vaughn more integrated into the passing game.

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due to Ronald Jones having nine targets and ending with a line of six for 17. That is not getting it done through the air. But Ronald Jones is still the, he's still a must play running back to me. Nine targets to end up with 17 yards. That is a lot of bad plays. It's also nice to get nine targets. Catch six passes as a running back. Point, point, point, point. Oh, it certainly is, but. Scotty Miller, are you starting? Yeah.

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Yeah, I mean, Scotty Miller is probably someone that you can rely on. His volume is necessary at this point. David Montgomery, I brought him up. You guys, Joshua Kelly against Norlands or David Montgomery in this game? Joshua Kelly. Really? Yep. Jason? I would go David Montgomery. I think the workload is all his and he's been good enough. You know, it's ironic. We said this coming into the season, or at least I did.

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He's going to be exactly what he was last year. A very high volume, high floor, low ceiling type of player. It's what he's been every single week. He's fine to be in your lineup. He's not going to crush you and kill you this week. He has finished inside the top 30, one out of four weeks. This week, I don't think he's going to hurt you. I don't think he's going to be a great start either. I would love to have two or three running backs of my roster. I could start ahead of Montgomery, but the volume is there.

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Mark Ingram against Cincinnati or David Montgomery? Mark Ingram. Okay. Anybody else from this game? Are you starting Jimmy Graham? Rob Grancowski with no O.J. Howard? Camer Brayette is still there. I'm not in on Rob Grancowski. Jimmy Graham is, I don't know what to do with this guy. It feels like you go. You're out. He has the game. You go in.

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He stinks. He's the Titan 35. You write him off because he's Jimmy Grandpa. He's old. And then he's the tight end one on the week. Okay, I'm back in, baby. Let's go. Tighten 45. So this is. Sounds like a tight in. This is not what I'm not playing Jimmy Graham, hopefully. We added some new metrics to the website. If you want to check them out, the advanced stats section for each player on their player profile, including a consistency metric.

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which gives a grade based on the percentage of times a player has exceeded a usable benchmark at their position. This is a very valuable tool. Jimmy Graham's an F. Jimmy Graham's an F in the consistency. Are there any tight ends? And that's not A through Z. That is not A through Z. And that consistency score is not just based on this season. It's basically looking at the last season's worth of games for every player. All right.

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Okay, I already mentioned it. Take your Thursday night players out of the flex, put them into a starting position. And then we'll have more matchup previews the starts of the week, the taking it to 100 players all on tomorrow's show. Let's do some mailbag. Mailbag. All right, if you have a question, go to the website, the Fantasy Footballers.com, click the submit a question button or dial our voicemail. Hotline 302464 TFFB.

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We'll kick today's mailbag off with a voicemail question. Hey, ballers, Arkansas. I did for Derek McKinnon after Sequon Barkley got hurt, and I was wondering if you guys think he's a good option for Rahim Moster. Before the show, we were looking at the consistency charts at the running back position, and McKinnon has managed to score in four straight games. What do you guys think about the future? Obviously, Mosterts going to come back.

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And touchdowns are hard to predict. I really, really, really want to be in on Jerich McKinnon. And I think I am. I believe that when Moster comes back.

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McKinnon is going to be very valuable, just like he was when Moster was there. The question is when Moster and Coleman come back, is there a chance that all of a sudden McKinnon is relegated to, even if they love him and they just want to give him more rest for playoffs, this has always been a backfield. You can't really just trust for 16 games. You have to trust in short bursts. So that's where I would say if you can trade him high, and I mean high, you get value for him as a top 12 back like he's been. Melvin Gordon.

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Would you trade him for Melvin Gordon? That's a great question. I'd rather have Gordon. I think I would as well. It's a really ironic situation, right? Because you're worried about these players coming back, but we've been seeing Gordon without Philip Lindsay. Right. That being said, I think what he has shown while he's been without Lindsay will be enough to say, yeah, this is the player we gave a lot of money to be that workhorse. So yeah, I would take Melvin Gordon. Mike, would you rather have Ronald Jones rest of season or Jerick McKinnon?

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Ooh, I think I'd go with Ronald. McKinnon. I can't let this. Really? McKinnon versus Ronald Jones? I mean, it's definitely Ronald Jones. Oh, that's a water bet. Ronald Jones had 20 carries last week. Yeah, and just watch him get four carries this week. That's a bet. If it's definitely, I am McKinand rest of the season. Jones versus McKinnon. Oh, I mean, it's not close to me. It's interesting. Waterbed. Okay.

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Sure. I'm shocked. Yeah, I don't know. The Leonard Fournett that he's actually considered a game time decision. What I was hearing is, you know, multiple weeks, if not longer for Leonard Fornett. Rahim Mustard is the starter. Yes, I agree. For the 49ers. Now, I've been impressed with Derek McKinnon. I'm not trying to, that bet is just based on what I want on my fantasy roster from a guarantee standpoint. You just brought it up. You cannot really bank.

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on 16 games in San Francisco, not that you can bank on Ronald Jones. That's my point. But so far this year, you can't. So far this year, Ronald Jones has been getting volume. So, and last week, 111 yards on the ground, that's, McKinnon looks great, but I can't trust it. Especially, you speculate on Kevin Coleman, but you don't know when Coleman's back, whether it's three-headed monster, Jeff Wilson involved. Well, the exact same thing with Leonard Fournette and what.

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Kisham Vaughan did last week. Does he get more involved? I mean, over the last, over the last month of the season, I think McKinnon and Ronald Jones, either guy could be the third guy on their roster. So I'm going to take the team I believe in more, the offense I believe in more as far as the running scheme, not quarterback. Sure. That's why we bet. All right. YouTube question. Johnny Smith or Zachert's rest of season.

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We've still yet to see the Titans play football very often. AJ Brown's been part of one game. I'm laughing here because I've seen a lot of Zachert's questions. And Mike, you've been bringing up the question of is Zacherts washed? You have him on your roster. So here's a little.

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secret. When we have someone on our roster, we tend to watch that player a lot more while they're, you know, not involved on the plays where they're not getting the ball. You watch their routes because you're like, is he open? Throw the ball! And you've been saying it's not looking great on the field, and I've been battling against you. Like, no, you, Zach Ertz is, you know, top five. But every time I'm asked a question like this, I laugh because it shows where I'm really at.

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which is I don't trust Zach Ertz, but I, but I, I, I, I should, like, I think I should. I think I'm supposed to, but I don't. So Andy, I, we know where Mike is. I don't know where I am. Where are you on Zach Ertz? I'm concerned about the way that Carson Wentz is playing and the way he's targeting Zachertz and the fact that Johnny has been, he's not just putting up nice performances, but he's being targeted heavily as well.

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This is a really tough call, but I think that Philly's going to get more strength at the wider seat position over the next few weeks, whether it's Jeffrey and Jackson coming back. I'm going to lean Johnny Smith. I'm going to make the bold call here. Yeah, and look, if it's this close and it's a tiebreaker worthy, John Hussmith is past his buy, you know, in theory now. One of his buys. Right. I mean, I guess, I guess you almost have to go, Zach, or it's in the sense that you don't know if.

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the Titans are going to play this week. So I would go Zach Ertz unless we knew for sure that the Titans are playing. Yeah, I, I'm still, I'm going to go Zach Ertz over Janu. Just for the, for the reasons you guys all laid out here. But the next, there was a follow-up question from Jared Billings who said, oh, I thought it was an Ertz question. So I thought it was Zachertz or Dalton Schultz. It's a Johnny question, Johnny Smith, or?

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Dalton Schultz. Dalton Schultz, which, so then you can follow the... You're saying Dalton Schultz? Yes. Oh, I don't think so. I'd go, Johnny. I would go Johnny as well. I would take Dalton Schultz over Zackertz. Okay. All right. Let's grab another voicemail. What's up, man? I just wanted to know if you would start Justin Herbert. Herbert? Oh. Are we doing that? No. What is the old game I'm thinking about? I don't know. There's an old video game.

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Oh, Hubert? Oh, that is what I was thinking. Thank you, Mike, for saving me there. You're welcome. Yeah, yeah. I would play Erbert with the, because of the H.S. I would play Justin Herbert over Matt Ryan this week, yes. I would not. I would play Matt Ryan. I do not think it's going to be a good week for Herbert. It's not going to be good for Matt Ryan either. I don't like really either guy as someone that I want to rely on. So if I have to choose this week between one of those two guys, I'm going to go with the.

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proven vet breaking news small abuse of that button here um jason did not live up to his i know i was shocked the the waivers in our league ran and you had written down a note of de ernest johnson get him you went full draft day the genus johnson no matter what right was the note you made to yourself and your

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actions say that was completely false. Yeah, you didn't, Mike ended up paying up for Deeranis Johnson. I, Jason did not. Yeah, well, I put in a quarter of my fab. I put in 25% of my fab. That's going, I feel like, pretty hard. That is not all caps get him on a piece of paper. I believe it's the number that I said on yesterday's show. You said you were going to go hard. With that specific number. Brooks, was that going hard? Nope.

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All right. Not even close. That's going weak. Okay. Well, Mike, you went hard. Apparently. Let me ask you this, Jason. Simple question. Did you get him? No. Okay. All right. Let's go to another. In unrelated news. Okay. Deerness Johnson is available for trade in the League of Record. Hmm. Just saying. Jason will offer you very little. I will offer you $25.5. Yeah. For Deerness Johnson. All right. Here is. Oh, my goodness. This one is, uh,

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This one's interesting after Jason's diatribe on Julio Jones, his concern for Julio Jones. Joe writes in, would you trade Robbie Anderson for Julio Jones? Oh my gosh. The answer for me is simple, but I don't want to spoil it. Jason, we will throw to you. You were the one who spoke most worried about Julio Jones. Is Robbie Anderson, I think your quote was 75 cents on the dollar?

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Is Robbie Anderson's 75 cents? I feel like Robbie Anderson's like 60 cents on the dollar. Okay. So in general, I don't love it. But this is a team dependent move. I hate trading from a place of, you know, if you're one in three, and I never want to tilt trade. But there's a difference between tilt trading and doing something to manufacture wins now. Assuming that Julio is going to miss this week.

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