Then Dwayne Haskins went, I know he put up a lot of empty statistics, so he was quite bad. But for the team to completely move on at this point. Can I speculate? Sure. Please do. If you're going to move on from a player who, by every measure, Daniel Jones has been a worst quarterback than Dwayne Haskins this year, total turnovers, pass a rating, all of those metrics. If you're going to change your opinion.
Fantasy Retirements + Week 5 Buy or Sell, Crazy Eights - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/7
Fantasy Retirements + Week 5 Buy or Sell, Crazy Eights - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/7
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110 passagesperceptively on Dwayne Haskins because of a matchup with Baltimore. You didn't want Dwayne Haskins to be your quarterback to begin with. Sure. You gave him rope, but you didn't have plans for him to be your future. That's what I think, because there's more than we know. There's locker room presence. There's picking up the playbook. There's mistakes that we don't see. And I just wonder if there's more than meets the eye than just saying, boy, Dwayne Haskins didn't have a great game against Baltimore. Yeah. Albert Breer and NFL Insider was talking about
the fact that it's exactly what you're saying. It's about the other 10 guys in the huddle, and it seems like Haskins does not have the confidence of the team. That was his speculation. And then you combine that with Smith being the backup now. Right, exactly. Well, this is, when you make this move, you know Kyle Allen isn't great. And so you know he's going to go out there and struggle, and people are going to immediately say, okay, are they going to go back to Haskins? You have to say, Haskins isn't the backup, so there's no chance.
To me, what that means is no matter how bad Kyle Allen plays, he's going to stay the four-quarter quarterback. The Rams defense, you were going to start them before. You're going to start them now. Yeah. Deontay Johnson has cleared the concussion protocol. We expected this, but it's great to hear, and he will play in this upcoming week's game. Is there any other news that you guys want to get into a reminder? Drop it like it's hot. Waivers going through this morning. Make sure you pay attention to who was let go.
because big time moves, teams getting desperate. Another reminder, this is week five that we're heading into. Click on the standings tab in your league. Go look at teams that are sitting 1 in 3 and 0 and 4. That's the team you trade for their best player. Teams are going to get desperate to make a move. I just traded for Christian McCaffrey because of doing this yesterday, looking at records and seeing who might be tilting a little bit.
This is the time to take advantage of it. Yeah, that's great advice. I would also say another tip is that all these questionable games where there's speculation around, you know, so long as that's, you know, not the Thursday night game, which it's not this week. Just throw those guys towards your flex. Give yourself a little bit more option to pivot even if they are your star player. It'll allow you to look at your roster a little bit more clearly. Now, before we get to the big. This is the celebration. Ceremony.
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All right. I don't know if this is going to become an annual thing. I think it might. We're going to have a little fantasy retirement ceremony. Al Borland has got the orchestra together and prepared. They're all tuned up. Some music. And let's just start going through this list. Now, before I begin the ceremony, I do want to bring this up. When someone retires, there's always a chance that another organization wants to hire this person once again.
Brooks, if you want to jump in and hire any of these retirees and bring them onto your roster, you just jump in and let us know, okay? I'll let you know. Just in case there's some demand out there we don't know about. But let's begin. Yes. Marvin Jones. Marvin Jones, we will never forget the 2017 season. The wide receiver 9, incredible. Marvin, thank you for your service. Thank you for all the touchdowns that you had.
4836, 53rd, and 102nd through four weeks. Farewell. His weekly rankings. A.J. Green. Oh, it is very hard for me to accept your retirement. Started your career with five straight top 24 seasons. And really, I learned, as your team learned this year, that your time is done.
Get off my fantasy roster. Yeah, T.Y. Hilton, man, you also started your career with five top 25 seasons, and you were so great with Andrew Luck, who has also retired. Speaking of the Colts. Did you know, by the way, that T.Y. Hilton has not surpassed 87 yards in any game without under luck since he left. It's over. Philip Rivers. A nice.
Steady run. Steady stream. Steady stream. From 2013 to 2018. Philip Rivers, thank you. Thank you for all of your fantasy. It was great. Your services are no longer required. He's like an 80% passer this year. He's all phenomenal. Yes. Checkdowns. Brandon cooks. You have not been cooking. Oh, so many accomplishments. Between the injuries, between, well, 190. Goose last week, 80th the week before.
And all the different teams. I'm sorry to it again. All the different teams. Well, Frank Gore. I'm sure you will play in the NFL for 10 more seasons. But you won't play for fantasy football managers. I want him to play until his son gets there. Absolutely. I hope you do for fantasy purposes. Farewell. Congratulations on your retirement. Adrian Peterson. I'm not retiring him. You.
I'm not retiring. Of course you won't. I didn't realize he was in here. Yeah. We're taking care of it, Jason. Adrian Peterson. We'll never forget. Jason's not retiring him either. There's a place. Oh, no. He's had three weeks as a top 30 running back this year. Adrian Peterson does not belong on this list. But Larry Fitzgerald does 68th, 46th, 120th.
In 100th, he is not involved in the offense. We love you, Larry, more than most. Larry Legend. But it's over. I'm happy that I got to be here at your retirement. Yeah. You've met a lot to me, both for fantasy and real life. I will never have you on my roster again. And then, of course, Judge Diomati, his final day here at... Oh, we're retiring the judge. His eyes just went huge. I'm just kidding, Brooks.
That was a surprise. You're not retiring. You've got many decades left. Brooks, I think we surprised all of these players. I think he just bought a house, too. So that's why his eyes got real big. You just bought a house, didn't you, Brooks? Yes, sir. It's going to be a problem. You know I'm going to keep showing up here. Yeah. And that's why we figured we stopped paying you because if you come and do the work anyways. All right. That was tough. Mike, you really retire Adrian Peterson with those numbers.
No way. Yes. You're going to need him. I mean, the reality is if you're going to need him, you're going to lose. That's why he's retired. Yeah. Okay. All right. You guys want to do some mailbag first or Thursday night preview first? It's up to you. Oh, I get to pick? Yeah, spin the wheel. Thursday night. Thursday night breakdown.
The Tampa Bay Buccaneers at 3 and 1 take on the Chicago Bears at 3 and 1. The Buccaneers are 4.5 point road favorites. It's a 44 point over under. Yeah, I mean, I just, this is a script game to me. I don't see myself being surprised by the outcome. And I'm really not that excited with the Chicago Bears in this game. Tampa Bay, they're on a roll right now. Tom Brady, five touchdowns last week. Nick Foles looked.
atrocious unless you hold them up against Mitch Trubisky, in which case he looks reasonably talented. And I've been really disappointed. I mean, David Montgomery, he's in one of my fantasy rosters. He's in my lineup. He's at the running back position because it's a Thursday night game. I'm not going to put him in my flex. I'm going to leave that flexibility. But it hasn't been impressive. It wasn't a great debut with Nick Foles. Got some targets, but can't get anything going on the ground.
Not sure anything is going to get going on the ground against this Buccaneers defense. Yeah, I think that the Buccaneers defense is good, and I think the Chicago Bears defense is good. So that scares me from a fantasy perspective. Now, so far, so good for the Buccaneers' offense last week was not expecting big things for Tom Brady. He was my biggest miss in rankings, and it was wide because I had kind of bodied him a little bit, and then he goes out and throws.
five touchdowns. I felt really good for about half that game. And then he went nuclear. The question is, you know, will the short week matter having to throw all those passes? Now he doesn't have the same recovery time. Did you guys see Jarvis Landry's tweet about, so he had the one throw? He said, you know, I threw it once. I felt like I pitched nine innings. To be fair, Jarvis Landry put everything he had into that throw. I watched Jarvis Landry throw a first pitch out.
He did it with the other hand. What? Yeah. He pitched right-handed when he threw a baseball and he, that was a great pass by him in that game. So, but anyway, anyways, getting back here, let's start at the top with Tom Brady because I.
I have hesitation having bodied him last week to body him again, but everything that I look at says this is a really difficult matchup. Chicago Bears are number two against fantasy quarterbacks right now. I mean, second worst. Yeah, two weeks ago, Matt Ryan was the quarterback 27. And granted, you know, they, if you look at the schedule, so they had Philip Rivers this last week, which didn't need to do anything. So fantasy points didn't come his way.
When they played against Matt Ryan, they were missing Julio. Week one was Stafford, no Gala Day. And then you had Daniel Jones. So maybe these numbers are inflated for the defense, but they've been a good defense for a long time. Yeah. And if you have questions about getting to start Josh Allen this week because of the COVID situation, you don't really have the option to wait unless we got news. Like if Tom Brady's a pivot for you.
You can't pivot late. Like, that's what the category he's in for me is a probably not trying to start him, but you can start him. I mean, do you make anything of, I know Mike Evans played through it, the ankle problem. He came with a monster performance, but he, that was the ankle injury was during the game. You know, you could, often we see the player. They got the adrenaline going. The ankle hasn't swollen up yet. They play through.
We don't have an update currently on Mike Evans situation, but do you have any concern? Chris Guyman not likely to play. If Mike Evans is really hobbled by that ankle against a strong defense that is already fourth against fantasy wide receivers, where are you when you factor all that in? You're talking about with Evans? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's a concern to begin with just the fact that.
Jason's talking about the part of the game that looked ugly. I can tell you the part of the game. It's from when Mike Evans went off the field until Mike Evans came back out on the field, even as a distraction for parts of that game. Targeting Justin Watson and Scotty Miller did not look as spectacular. Am I concerned about Mike Evans? I don't know if that concern translates into putting him on my bench if he's active. Yeah, you're probably going to start him. He's got a good chance of ending up with...
