Week 11 Studs & Duds + Chuck Down Dominance! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/18

If you don't beat the number one team in football with your backup and no eyeouts, you're fired. Yeah. I mean, I just, you should just say peace and skip the flight. Golf number one, Burrow last night, turned it around. Amazing, amazing, amazing football game. Oh, so much fun. Bow Nix. Bow Nix. Oh, man, that kid is on fire. Outstanding football. Anthony Richardson, hey. Well, well, well. What do you do here? Well, you, you against Detroit coming up. Yeah, you just acknowledge the fact that these are always possible in the NFL. But it's not, it's not the rushing touchdowns. 20 for 30 guys. 272 passing yards with a passing touchdown. 30. He completed 677% of his passes.

with a 9.1 yards per attempt. Getting the W on the road against the Jets defenses. The Jets serve. They were. They're garbage now. I don't think their defense is a garbage defense. They're still, I think, a top half defense. So to be fair to Mike's point, in the last five weeks, they are the fourth worst defense. Yeah. To, for quarterbacks. By, oh, your fantasy points given up to quarterbacks, that's what you're saying? Schedule adjusted. Yeah. So, like, they have been, like, they gave up. six points above expectation to Drake May. They gave up six points above expectation to Russell Wilson. So they have been... Those are both ironic, though, when you look at schedule adjusted because you're comparing what they gave up to Drake May compared... Points allowed. They gave up, you know... No, my point is... My point is the baseline was set by Jacoby Brissette as far as what the average is. It's not what... You know what I'm saying? Like, the team...

That metric was set by Justin Fields and... Right, but even if you go to points allowed per team, I'm saying. If you go away from schedule of Justin, their bottom five. 37 points given up to the Steelers, 25 to the Patriots. They've kind of given up hope. Held the Texans to 13. They shouldn't have hope. 31 to Cardinals, 28 to the Colts. Like their defense has imploded. My perspective on Richardson is that you're not going to look at Richardson like the savior of your season. You know, he had to score two. He scored two rushing touchdowns. He's going to be on a waiver-wire decision for people. Yeah. And he should be in the streaming category. He doesn't need to be in every week's start because he has one good game. Yeah. I mean, why Bo Nix is still on waivers in a lot of places. And if you're telling me I get to pick one of those two guys up, one of them is the quarterback seven on the year, despite the first month of the season being really not good for fantasy. He has, he's just been.

I mean, Richardson has to play Detroit. He has to go to New England, go to Denver, face Tennessee. So the next four weeks are tough. And he was the number four quarterback in week one and then followed it with 22, 31, 31, 235. So just, look, it's awesome. I'm happy for him. I'm happy for the team. I'm happy that he could get it done. I'm happy that Josh Downs had a good game. I'm not happy for people that have Jonathan Taylor on the roster because there were two goal line opportunities. I went to Anthony Richardson, which was the. the fear before the season began. And that's, that's unfortunate because it's going to change the baseline for Taylor. But Bo Nick's incredible. He's the quarterback seven, 28 for 33, carved up Atlanta, four touchdowns. It's awesome. It's awesome to watch and play. And then Stafford was the fifth ranked quarterback of the week.

Bo Nix has five more touchdowns than Jaden Daniels does so far on the season. And I think as the season comes to the end, right now it was like a runaway. Jaden Daniels is obviously going to be the offensive rookie of the year. I mean, it doesn't feel that way. It could very well be Bow Nix by the end of the season. If the Broncos keep winning and they become like a contending playoff, like no one wants to play them right now. I feel like the best record between those two teams will be the rookie quarterback that gets it. Which the commanders are a better record right now, but it's, Jane Daniels is minus 400 for rookie of the year. Bonix is plus 300. Jason? You want a little bonix? Bonix. Bonix. So Justin Herbert started the week. It started great. 297 and 2 though. Still a good fantasy day. Ran the ball a ton. Five to 65. That was fun. And they won. They hang on. Or they got it done. McCong Kong.

And Sam Darnold had a had a balance back fantasy day as well. Top five running back scores, Sequin, after a week of being just thrown under the bus by Jason, Breece Hall number two on the week. Let me tell you something. You don't deserve him. No, he doesn't deserve to be in the studs. Okay. He does not deserve to be in the studs. Two easy rushing touchdowns. He's probably going to stink the rest of the year. That's my guess. So I will not support you, Breece Hall, because it worked pretty darn well this lesson. That being said, he's on by. David Montgomery, Josh Jacobs and Jemir Gibbs, Monty and Gibbs, staying healthy and taking names. I mean, just every week. Golf scored 50 and Monty and Gibbs scored basically 20 each. Yeah, I mean, it was unbelievable. And when I say it was unbelievable, I'm talking about the season, not the game.

The fact that two running backs for the same team cannot just like end the season good. That happens. That happens from time to time. You've got two running backs from the same team that at the end of the year, they're both top 24 backs. But every week they're both good. That doesn't make sense. No. They both get a touchdown every week. Someone gets two. Someone gets one. That's what it feels like. It's crazy that they can be that consistent. And that's where I think it's just the offensive line. and the system they have. I don't know how anyone slows them down. What's wild is that like it's not even, it's not like Gibbs is the passing specialist. He has 23 receptions. That's like nothing. There is no passing. The passing specialist is Alman Ra. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's wild. Right now, I'm seeing running back five for Gibbs, 10 for Monty. And on the season? On the season. Just insane. Both top 10 and fancy points per game.

17.7 and 15.6. So pretty impressive. I mean, they're going to be keys to championships if they stay healthy. Josh Jacobs, your start of the week. I really got it done in the past. Yeah, I love those targets. Four for 58. Let's keep doing that, Jordan. Aid Chan, Dobbins with the, I'm not going down on the one. I'm going to actually just take it into the end zone. Shout out to JK. Fantasy managers rejoice. What? What do you do here with Dobbins? Because the game was weird. Like, they were deploying Hassan Haskins. Now, this is multiple weeks in a row that we have seen Haskins at the goal line. And like, just JK not getting used at a time? He was his lowest. It's his lowest attempt since week one for Dobbins. Yeah, he only had 11. I guess is only at six carries. Yeah, Dobbins is a scary start on a team you like. You like the team.

So you start him and you say, you know what, I'm going to just believe that he's going to have opportunities. Schedule's pretty rough here. Baltimore, we'll see. Then Falcons, but Kansas City in week 14 and Denver in week 16. Gus Edwards only had six carries in this game. It makes it super weird. Man, I would, if your trade deadline is still open and you can unload Dobbins for something off of two touchdowns, I would certainly do it. It might be time for that. James Cook, two touchdowns on the ground, just 20 rushing yards. And, you know, what can I say? They demolish the Chiefs. They, I guess, by the rules of the score, and I don't know how to feel. Well, you know what, that fourth and two touchdown run by Allen was an iconic play for the year, into the game. Pretty cool. Chase Brown, 22 for 86, 5 for 57 through the air, looks Echler-like, electric, and...

Khalil Herbert's had zero touches in the two games since he's arrived. So Brown is a workhorse. And it's the receiving work. The receiving work is, I mean, that's unbelievably great for what you said, Echler, it's not just like he looks like him. He's being used like him. You're talking about in the last three weeks, five targets, 11 targets, seven targets. Those are wide receiver numbers. And then it's not like they're not giving him 20 plus rushing attempts at the same time. I mean, this is like a top five back right now with how he's being utilized. He's going on by, but coming out of the buy, I mean, you have to assume you've got a, you know, we said last week what we thought he was going to be rest of season. I believe, Andy, you were, I believe you were the highest. No, I was the highest at running back six. Running back six. I think you're, I think you were basically spot on. He's got this full Joe mixing Cincinnati volume.

The biggest challenge to me and the reason I want in Cincinnati to win the game is my eyes on that, the motivation factor. Yes. And them winning, like, if they run the table now, I think they can get to 10 and 7. Yeah. So it's still, they're still motivated. They still need to, you know, they need to get it done. Chase Brown's RB5 since week four. But I really wanted them to win so that they were in the mix. The, this is based off of nothing other than just. thinking about how a situation can play out and vibes. Remember when everyone was super scared about Jamar Chase holding out into the season? As we get to the end of the season and Jamar Chase, a slight, like if I'm Jamar Chase and we're out of the playoffs, anything slight to my body, I am resting and I am recovering. And that is a little scary. Just look to next week's game because. Uh-huh.

And sorry, two weeks from now because they have the buy. But the Pittsburgh game, if they beat Pittsburgh at home, which is very doable in division, I mean, it's going to be hard, but they could do it. Then they get to play Dallas, Tennessee, Cleveland, Denver at home, Pittsburgh game in the year. Like, they could run the table. They could. But if they lose the Pittsburgh and they slip two, what would that be? It would be four and eight. I mean, you're in trouble then. So, all right. Where was I? Chase Brown. Giovante got the work. Nine for 59 and a touchdown. Don't try to figure this man out. Sean Payton lives to hurt you. I mean, next week against the Raiders, you'd think that is a perfect matchup for him. So whatever. A perfect matchup for. For who? Like. Well, you, what you want to do is you want to have Javante an estimate on your roster and then be very confident who you're starting. And then one minute before kickoff switch. Oh.

I thought it was just listen to whatever Sean Payton says. Do the opposite. And then you know the other guy's going to get the work. The problem is he said, here's what he's done. He said the same thing three weeks in a row. Right. He said it two weeks ago that estimate would get work. He didn't get work. He said it the week. Last week he did. And he said it this week and he didn't. He's like running back Madlib's situation for Sean Payton and it's driving me crazy. DeAndre Swift had a big play in this game, got into the end zone.

And that made his, made his day. So wide receiver starts. Alman Ross St. Brown was just. Goodness gracious. Unreal. Cooper Copp, T. Higgins. Jerry, Judy. Dude. The downfield shots, we renamed James Winston yesterday. Other quarterbacks, they got the checkdowns. Yeah. He's got the chuck downs. He just, it's so funny. Last resort, throw it deep. You know, it's like, I think. Generally speaking, quarterbacks go high to low. You know, you run that play auction or whatever. You're looking for the deep shots. Not there. You're going to the mid range. It's not there. Check it down. And Jamis is the exact opposite. He's like, okay, let me go. I'm looking at the middle of the field. I'm looking for my checkdown. Oh, the pockets collapse. I better chuck it to the end zone. And I'm up and I'm at my end zone. Like, I mean, it's just all the time when.

When push comes to shove, he's like, I'll just throw it deep. And I love that. I love this man. Yeah, it was wild. The chuckdown, baby. But Jerry Judy had 11 targets look like his clear number one. When you watched him versus Cedric Tillman versus Elijah Moore, Judy just seems like he's establishing himself as what he should. You know, it might be the case. I mean, Tillman still had eight targets. Yeah. To me, Tillman looked like the clear one the previous two weeks. I... That's fair. You know, Elijah Moore got in the end zone. I think you will see a rotation of good fortune on the deep ball for those three. But it was, you know, Judy's in the mix. Six for 142. Give me credit. It's super fun because all three of these guys, at least in my opinion, all three of them are, you can play on a weekly basis. It's not always going to work, but it's like I got Elijah Moore played against me yesterday and it might beat me. I mean, you've got, so Jerry Judy in the three games with James. Yeah.

Eight targets, 11 targets, and 11 targets. He has 79 yards, 73 yards, and 142 yards. So it's not saying that you can't play Cedric Tillman, but you have to be starting. Yeah, I mean, the Tillman in that stretch is on target for 100, and he's on pace for 170 targets. And Elijah Moore is on pace for 164. And Elijah is on pace for 164? Yeah. Jerry Judy is on pace for 170 targets? Yeah. And how many is Elijah? 164. 1717, 164. Don't worry. Let's find out how much. It's the chockdown, baby. Yeah, I'll figure out nojokos. 278 targets. I mean, wait, how many pass attempts does that mean James is on page for? No, no joke who's on pace for 130 targets over those three games. So James Winston's pass attempts over the last two games would put them on pace for 753. No. Yes. Oh my goodness. If you're the Cleveland Browns.

What are you going to do? Like Nick Chubb? I don't think. Nick Chubb still doesn't have it. He's not. 700. Why not throw it all the time? 53 attempts, 5,462 yards and 34 touchdown. I very, very much like to believe and do believe. that he changes it into a pass at the line of scrimmage every play. Okay. No matter what the call is. It's like, oh, kill, kill, kill. I feel good about it. James, I got to chuck it. There's four guys in the box. There's no defensive line, James. Kill, kill, kill. I got a good plan here. Don't worry. If something goes wrong, I'll just chuck down. Oh, man. He is. Let's have the conversation. He is a king. Let's have the conversation about James Winston because.

He's been the quarterback six and the quarterback four in two of the three games. Is James Winston going to win people titles? I think that's the schedule question because you've got some rough stuff coming up. Pittsburgh, Denver, Pittsburgh, Kansas City. The next month is horrifically brutal. I mean, that's like as bad as it gets. Give me that week 16 matchup against the Bengals. Just something to pay attention to. I'm in on that. Juan Jennings, Mike's start of the week, 10 for 91 and 1. We said also kind of a second half winner. He is a, he's got a rapport with Brock Purdy. And somehow he's their best wide receiver? Yeah. What is happening with Debo? Debo's busy hitting his own long snapper. Debo? And that was, that's like actually what happened. Right. Well, yeah, two weeks ago. But I, I still believe Debo Samuel is good. Like, I don't.

I think he has lost the ability to play football, but it's not getting it done, man. Nick Westbrook Aquine had the 98-yard touchdown. Yeah. I did mention him in that matchup as somebody to pay attention to because he's out there for every snap. I didn't see a 98-yard touchdown coming. No. But Ridley, four-for-58. With a huge touchdown callback on those. Oh, man, those illegal formations. I realized. We've got to keep cracking down, guys. I realized what is. We're doing great work. most horrific about the illegal formations. It's that they let the play happen. It's so stupid that they let the play happen. I don't understand it. Like, if it's a false start, you call the play dead because nothing that happens on that play can count. So it's like you have all these plays that are brought back. You're saying it should be like a false start. Exactly. They do the same. But you do have to have the snap first. That's fine. Yeah, as soon as it's the ball snapped, just.

Blow the play dead. Why let us, why? I didn't know you were so into these penalties. For me, I just get rid of them. But I guess you won them still, but you just want them caught big ref, man. I have been so clear on this. There is no such thing as an illegal formation to me unless it's on the other side of the football. I don't give a. So dumb. I would let you have two offensive linemen. You would not. I'd let the center catch the ball. You're the guy who wants trampolines on the NBA court. Yeah. I mean, that's the same thing. One spot. I also want a 10 point shot. I want another bag. I want another basket above the basket. You're darn right. And put some celebrities in there. Yeah. Forgive me for wanting entertainment. Yeah. Well, I mean, there you go. You would have been a big fan of the, you know, the Coliseum and the gladiators. Oh, man. I would have. You would have been like, you'd have season tickets to the. Oh, man.

Events. Sorry. The big death match. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Josh Downs got it done. Got into the end zone. JSN got it done again. 11 targets, 10 for 110. So that's nice to see moving forward. It seems like maybe JASN is finally kind of settling in. Arizona, New York, Arizona coming up. JSN looks okay. All right. Before we, well, I guess we got tight ends here. Tassum freaking Hill. Oh, my goodness. 37 and a half points. Start of the week, Johnny Smith, 25.1. Brock Bauer is 24.8. He had 13, or 16 targets. Yeah, you got nothing else you can do then. I mean, he is so good. I think he's the best pass catching tight end in the game. Like, Jason, asked me, yeah. Oh, yeah. I agree with you. Better than Trey McBride and Kittle and Kelsey. I mean, he is the best. He's so good. Noah Gray upsetting the Kelsey manager, 16.3, quick.

Really quick, but Noah Gray in a dynasty if you're the Kelsey manager. Are you interested? I'm not opposed to it. Do you think he'll be next man, huh? I mean, I think he'll, I don't think he'll ever, I mean, you're just not going to be able to become Travis Kelsey just because you've got the role even if Kelsey retired. It's like searching for the next gronk. Yeah, what was that guy? Oh, we've been through a million. I mean, we went through a million there. There was, I know you're talking about. Kyle, Kyle was a free agent. He was an undrafted free agent's tight end that they had in camp. Patriots tight end. And everybody lost their mind about him because I think he scored in week one. Kyle, do you remember this thing? I can't read your mind. In the meantime, Kyle, you can think about this. Like years ago when we were like when gronk was gone? Read our mind, Kyle. When was gronk's last? I'll figure this out. By the way, Jason. So this would have been 2019.

Patriots. Ask me, Jason, who finished as the tight-in five? Who finished as the tight-end five? Will Disley will not die because he's Montana strong. Big Montana, baby. Get it done. Four for 80. He's big. He's strong. Yeah, there were a bunch of, I mean, beyond him, Mike, there were a bunch of New England tight-ins. Everybody wanted to be the next. Hernandez gronk combination. No, it wasn't Ben Watson. No, it wasn't Ozzy Ozzy. No, it wasn't, uh, everyone's searching for it. No, Andy knows what I'm talking about. I know what you're talking about. It wasn't, he wasn't been Watson. He was a preseason sensation. Yes. Huh. The entire world will find this and post it on Twitter if we don't find it. All right. Earth's got it done by the way. Garbage time. Najoku as well. We'll take a break. We'll hit the duns. All righty. Let's jump in.

pooped in his big boy pants. All right. Russell Wilson, guys. Dude. Oh, Russ. That was, I mean, Russ. The most disappointing start that I can remember because everyone started them. Yeah. Everyone everywhere. I mean, we all three had them in our draft king's lineup. I started him in, um, I think our listener league or somewhere like that. There were a lot of reasons to start him, and it became, you know, we talked about the wide range because you have two good defenses. You have the divisional matchup that, you know, sometimes can just be a slug fest. There was also the outcome, you know, the high end, high scoring affair, but it didn't happen. Lamar Jackson and Russell. Yeah, they both just. It division game does.

where we didn't get the high flying. It was slog fest. So, you know, that made Lamar and Russ a problem. Jaden Daniels this week. Disappointed a lot of people. Kirk Cousins. They couldn't get anything going against Denver at all. That was a blowout. You know, I object to Patrick Mahomes being here. Is this because of the turnovers? I mean, he had three touchdowns. Zach Sudfeld. That's it. Yes. Okay. I've been this entire time. That was it. I haven't listened to a single thing you guys have said. No, I know you haven't because I've been trying to tease out some conversations. Zach Sudfeld. Yeah, I remember it. Thank you, Mike. Oh, that's a big. I mean, our, our Slack channel right. I was going to die. Our Slack channel right now is filled with Ben Watson, Chase Winnevich, Matt LaCoste, Ryan iso, Dalton Keene.

Jacob Hollister, Eric Tomlinson. We're just like, no, no, no. Andrew Beck, no. Remember Shanty Shanko? Yeah. What if Kate Aughton goes to the Chiefs next year? Because we were talking like he's going to go get a bag of money from. I don't think they'll give him a bag of money. Well, they don't have a lot of money. Well, I'm saying, I think Kelsey's probably, he probably tries to play again next year. So listen, Patrick Mahomes had a great game. Yeah, yeah. He's not a dud. Two hundred and three is a great game. Running backs. Jason, you kind of flipped it. You've been all about, ah, Bijon is great. And Breeze Hall struggles, and now they flip this week. You can't get them both on the same week. It is frustrating having those two in tandem. But this game was shocking. Like Denver annihilated the Falcons. They controlled the time of possession. They had the ball. Atlanta could do nothing. I'm going to chalk this one up to Denver's defense at home.

being just the better team. Going forward, you've got Bijon going into a buy week, then the Chargers, Minnesota. Those are pretty tough matchups. So we're going to see what the Falcons are made of. They've got a regroup here from a butt whooping and come back strong or show that they're not, you know, they're not the team that has, you know, Super Bowl aspirations. Jonathan Taylor, 24 carries just 57 yards on those 24 carries. No touchdowns. Only one reception. What is the inventory or what is the temperature check, Mike, on Taylor to you seeing, you know, the last couple of weeks? I still think he's a top 12 play. Detroit will be tough next week. Yeah, that will be very tough. Yeah, I mean, the issue we had with Jonathan Taylor, when they made the transition to Flacco, I went out and traded hard for Jonathan Taylor thinking he could be the number one.

quarterback with the checkdowns because he can pass catch and the touchdown opportunities. Those were the two things with Anthony Richardson there where it was like, we didn't see Jonathan Taylor as having a top three running back range of outcome because you're not going to get a bunch of passing work. He didn't. He won't with Anthony Richardson. And you will have some goal line opportunities stolen from you. He had two this last week. So yeah, I would agree. He's like running back 10 to 12. Let me ask you, are you worried about these names, okay? I think this one's a layup for you, but it appears maybe Rahim Moster's time is over. I mean, three for negative two on the ground, no targets. Jalen Wright's getting worked in. Moster, honestly, when I saw him briefly, he looks slow. I don't, is it done? Is it over with? Yeah, I don't, I don't think Moster will ever have time in the sun again. 20 touchdowns last year. It's a weird place. Well, but that's also, it came and it went. That's also the dolphins. The dolphins.

Last year were a high-powered offense, they're not. They're figured out that whatever it is, the defenses that they're showing them. They will not throw the ball down the field. You brought it up, Andy. You're like, wins the last time. And in this last game. Johnny with no one around him. I was going to say there was one deep throw that I remember. And it was the Johnny Smith wide open broken coverage play. Everything is underneath. Everything is screen passes into rounds to Malik Washington. Tyreek. I think I said if he doesn't score 15 points, I'm going to lose my mind. He scored 15.6. Woo. Your mind is saved. Are you worried? Let's continue the journey. Let's move to two running backs in horrible offensive situations right now that feel like they're heading towards top number one picks. Tony Pollard and Travis E. Tian. Both of those teams, it's the same recipe every week. It's last man standing in the backfield.

Spears has hurt again. We're down by a million points again, and it's we can't catch up because we don't have a quarterback. Well, Pollard, I'm much less worried about. It was nine for 15 this week. The matchup against Minnesota was very predictably difficult. Granted, same for Travis E.T and with the Detroit Lions. But I think that the team, the team still wants to use Pollard and they've got their quarterback in tow. Like, I have no idea what the Jacksonville Jaguars future is. I don't know if Trevor Lawrence is going to play again this year, if he's going to get surgery, if he's going to be back right after the buy. We just don't know. And that, to me, changes everything for Travis ETN. So I'm more confident in Pollard, who's also just looked better this year in the opportunities he's had down week. Yeah, but he's had a lot of good looking runs. Travis ETN has...