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Week 5 Matchups + Wheel of Shame, All Cardio Team | Fantasy Football 2022 - Ep. 1304

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After their first live game stream, the hosts roast a terrible Broncos-Colts game, celebrate the Foot Clan and turn Russell Wilson's persona into a character joke.

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Whether you'd start it because that seems like. Okay, so give me some Dobbin situations. That seems like a player people are going to have a lot of questions with. Is it time? Is it time to start J.K. Dobbins? The utilization seems to be there. He looks fine on the field to me. He had a couple touchdowns. This is a matchup issue for me. The Bengals defense is legit. So I don't love J.K. Dobbins this week. It's not because of the injury. It's not because of his utilization. It's just because of the matchup. So Dobbins or? Damien Pierce against Jackson. Damian Pierce. I thought you were going Damian Harris. Also, I would go Damian Harris. Okay, thank you for clarifying that. Dobbins or Devin Singletary. Oh, that one's really, really close. I'll take Singletary against Pittsburgh. Yeah, I will as well. Devin Singletary, by the way, has run the most routes of any wider receiver or running back in football. Yeah, love to see it. The Raiders, one and three taking on the three and one chiefs. Drafking Sportsbook line here.

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Chiefs minus 7 at home. The overrunner is 51.5, the highest of the week. The Chiefs have, well, they got the inverse cousins. They like to put up big games on Monday Night Football. They won six straight. Mahomes has, he owns the Raiders. 701 against them in his career, averaging 318 and 2.75 touchdowns. He's good. So you should play him. Play Patrick Mahomes. I concur. Stay in the flames with Clyde Edwards O'Lear. Would you play him over Russell? Oh, that's just mean. Yeah, yeah, I think I would. What about the wide receiver room for the Chiefs? Right now, it's been a mess. Juju's wide receiver 48 on the year. I think we're all praying and hoping that Skymore can earn a bigger role, but it's very, very unrealistic to think that Skymore will do a takeover of this offense because they're succeeding, right? They're winning ball games. They're not looking at the stat lines.

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MVS and Juju are contributing to a working offense. I just don't see a world where Skymore is startable anytime soon. Yeah, I mean, I could see that happening actually in the next couple of weeks just based on the utilization. He has not been involved in the passing game. He's been a special team's player. You know, you look back 4% of snaps, 13% of snaps. This last week, he was actually involved in the offense. He played 28% of snaps. Still a... very low amount of snaps here, but got four targets while he's on the field. So when he was there, the targets per route run, which is a sticky stat, were good for Sky Moore. So he's not someone you're certainly you're not starting him now. Goodness, no. You're waiting until maybe he gets up to 70% snap participation. You're right, Andy. That's where I don't think he can get to. Yeah, I don't think there's any chance in heck he can get there. That's going to be my question. Like, meanwhile, we have juju,

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is on the season sitting at a 67% of the snaps, a 19% target share. MVS is 74% of the snaps, a 16% target share. Like, Sky Moore would have to siphon so many targets from around just to get to the 15% where. I don't know if sky's the limit here. Oh, very. Yep. That works. I like the player. I like the prospect. And I, I'm not disagreeing with, if you're in, you know, if you have a bigger fantasy bench, stash him and see what happens. But it's a long ways away. Yeah, I mean, he might not be able to play his way in front. He legitimately might not be able to. But, you know, we've seen it with other players already. And one injury to one of those three wide receivers all of a sudden. That would make a big difference. Is necessary and hopefully more talented than what we've seen from the other guys. If you have to start one.

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You're starting Juju as a flex option. If Patrick Mahomes is averaging, you know, he's just been dominating the Raiders forever, I think Juju could have a fine game here. All right. And NBS will catch three passes and it'll be meaningless. Isaiah Pacheco, would you play him over Tyler Algier? Ooh. I don't think we can do that yet. Isaiah Pacheco looked good. I think he's their most talented runner on the team. He got 11 carries last week, which was awesome, but it's the first time we've really seen him take that type of a roll over. I know he got 12 carries in week one, but if you don't remember, that was all garbage time in the fourth quarter when it was back. I think you need to color in that Clyde Edwards-Alair also got 19 carries last week. So like there was an explosion of running back attempts for the Kansas City Chiefs that we are not used to seeing.

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Jason, I'd be curious what the schedule adjusted defense of the Chiefs is doing because in terms of total points given up, they've been really bad. I mean, 22 to the quarterback. That's 28th in the league. They are 28th when you adjust for schedule. Yeah, so in the running back position, 27th in the league. They're 28th when adjusted for schedule. And then 32 points of game given up to wideouts, 24th. Yep, 22nd. They're not a good defense. Yeah, and part of that might just be, you know, they score quickly and volume, right? So in teams, when you play against the chiefs, you're less likely, you're more likely to.

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go for it on a fourth or try to, you know you've got to be more aggressive because you don't feel like you can win a game putting up 20 points. And so that's something that this- You're not facing Russell Wilson. Exactly. That's something that this defense, even if they're better than the average defense, the other offenses are going to be more aggressive, which is great for fantasy. So I think Derek Carr is a great start this week on the road, Monday night football. Devante Adams, leading the NFL in Red Zone targets. gives Derek Carr the upside in this game that he needs. And Hunter Renfro, return to a full practice. Awesome. He should be back out there. This will balance the offense even more. Where are we with Darren Waller? Because it's been disappointing so far, but I mean... You know who Darren Waller is to me? Kyle Pitts? No, he's George Kittle. Like, it's the... We at least have a tight-in two finish on the year from Waller. Well, right, because he's... I've seen this for the Pitts comment.

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Yeah, yeah. No, he's definitely not Kyle Pitts. But my point is you've had a couple of real dud games from Waller in a row because he's not necessarily the number one or number two target. You know, you've got more. And Matt Collins keeps growing. I think that's the biggest problem for Waller. Yeah, he's the new tight end. Kyle Pitts has outscored Waller by quite a lot in the last two weeks. In the last two weeks? What's quite a lot? 14 to 6. Okay. Was his bigger one week three? Bigger being 11 points, yeah. But Waller, I mean, that two finish was like 14 or something. Yeah, so the point here is he is a guy that has physical ability to have a big game so you have to continue to play him. You're going to get stinkers because he is not the number one or number two reading the offense. Darren Waller. Oh, okay. Or Tyler Higby. I would go Waller. I want to take Higby right now.

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Yeah, I mean. You don't want, you don't like 10 receptions? Oh, I love 10 receptions. I don't know that that's going to happen this week against the Cowboys. I realize that they're probably 15 just that because it's stopped the ball and scream. Yeah. By the way, some injury updates for you. Curtis Samuel not listed on the injury report should be back. Johan Dotson ruled out and Logan Thomas questionable now with a cap injury. So don't pivot to Logan Thomas. A bailout. All right. Let's move on. Fantasy Face Off, presented by Draft Kings. Well, I've spent two weeks pivoting off of the Josh Allen default start, and I've spent two weeks losing. So I am going to spin the wheel today. Wheel of shame. So I'm going to spin the wheel. By the way, I'm...

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Definitely going to win this week. So I hope you made a good choice here on the wheel of shame. Yeah, you'll find out. Oh, boy. All right, let's spend this thing. Banana face, rainy day. Geezer. And we have landed on cyberpunk. Should I be afraid of what's going to happen here? Cyberpunk. You're going to look great, man. You're going to like the way you look. Do I need my hat off? Yes, you're going to need to take that hat off. This is a multi-piece. Sorry, Mr. Denver. Set up. So we have, we've got the glasses. We've got a, look at those sunnies. I'm not going to be able to read my lineup. Well, we'll figure that out for you. What is this? It's got lights in it. You're up. Oh, what a nice Mohawk. He's got a big red lighting up. I can't even tell if it's on right. The Jordy shades are.

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Quite something. That man's right out of the future. Wow. I feel like I am in a post-apocalyptic. You are definitely going to pick on the Marty McFly the fourth or whatever he is. Since when did you become the physical type? There you go. All right. We are into the line. Oh, man. This side shot looks so good. The Milwaukee is so big. All right. Well, look, I feel good about my lineup this week, gentlemen. So I hope that you. I hope it's as good as you look. Well, what did you guys do at quarterback this week? I went back and forth and back and forth between Tom Brady and Josh Allen. I could not get myself to avoid the value of Tom Brady at 6,000. Same, bro. What he has done against Atlanta. I have Tom Brady. Yeah, I figured that Tom, look, Tom Brady is 6,000.

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is just too big of a value against the Falcons to pay up for help. So we watched each other out at the quarterback position. Who are your running backs, Jason? My running backs are my running backs in the league of record. So I'm either going to have a really good week or a really bad week. I'm going to tilt like crazy. I'm going Derek Henry paying up 8,200. Not the greatest matchup, but I'm hoping for snow on the ground in Vermont. And Austin Echler, 7,800. Wow. So I've paid up for two big dogs of running back. Yeah, that's the Brady discount, right? Mike, what did you do at running back? I took some mid-level values. I took Jason's start of the week, which I'm a little surprised you didn't go there. I'm going with James Robinson at 6,300 against the Houston Texans expecting a big day. And then I have Andy's start of the week, Kareem Hunt, at 6,000 at home against the Chargers. All right, I've got...

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By the way, James Robinson plus 100 to score a touchdown this week because he's in my lineup as well. I got one of each of your running backs. I got James Robinson at 6300 and Derek Henry. You look ridiculous. I look really cool. How do you feel? Do you feel cooler right now? Well, it's all kind of like a dark mist. So the only thing I can see is this colorful. Wow, this is like if I gave you a nice Mohawk. If I gave you a really complex firewall, what is the chances that you could? Oh, I could hack that thing. Yeah, yeah, I could hack it. No, I got Derek Henry and James Robinson as my running backs. That's nice. Derek Henry, DK Sportsbook line, his projection is already over 100 all-purpose yards. So you've got a nice baseline there. Okay, Jay, who are your wide receivers? At wide receiver, I have C.D. Lamb. I know he's dealing with the groin, but I think C.D. Lamb at 7,000 is too good a deal.

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Chris Godwin stacking with Tom Brady at only 5,900 feels like stealing. And then Chris Olave at 5,700, my start of the week at wide receiver. I think I've got three solid wide receivers that are all decent discounts. I'm going to jump in real quick because I have two thirds of that. I have Chris Godwin to stack with Tom Brady. Yep. And I have Chris Olave. Jason also has him. 5,700. And then my third wide receiver is A.J. Brown against Arizona, 7,500. Oh, the wide receiver ones, not as dominance against Arizona. It'll be interesting to see what A.J. Brown can do. I have Stefan Diggs, because you still got to get some of that sweet, sweet Josh Allen action at 8,400. And I saved them in running backs. I also have Chris Godwin. And my third wide receiver is my start of the week. It is Mr. Robert Woods right now in the sports book. How much is he?

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Well, his line is 51.5 receiving yards, and I am absolutely taking the over on that. And Robert Woods, 5200. Okay. Jason, why don't you wrap up your lineup here, tight-in, flex, and defense? Sure, I'm out of money. So my tight-in is Tyler Conklin, 3,700. I can only make this lineup work with Khalil Shakir. who is 3,200. I'm playing him with or without Isaiah McKinsey. And I assume we all have the Cowboys at 2,500. I do. They are super cheap and we'll have about 1,200 sacks. Yeah, I have the Cowboys as well. Okay. My flex is C.D. Lamb at $7,000, which means I also ran out of money. So I went with the ultimate tight end punt play of O.J. Howard.

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At just 2600. We're riding together, baby. Oh, let's go. OJ. I've got OJ Howard at 2,600, which makes my flex 5300. Rashad Penny. I'm going with Rashad Penny this week, the volume, the opportunity at 5300. I had some lineups early in the week. Go back to the main shot so we can really take in that Mohawk. Yeah, buddy. Oh. Yep, I'm, I'm Mad Max down the street. Yes. This is, you know, I feel really cool. This is the coolest I've ever felt. I like it. I mean, Broncos country. Oh, let's ride. That's ride. What a nice character you've created for yourself. Yes. That was Fantasy Faceoff presented by Draft King Sportsbook. Download the Draft King Sportsbook app now and use the promo code ballers to get $200 in free bets instantly when you place a $5 bet on any football game. That's code ballers only at Draft Kings.

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Sportsbook. Any other updates, gentlemen, before I sign off? No, sir. Okay. Yeah, I'm pretty blind in these. These are dark. I mean, these will handle that post-apocalyptic sun-filled dusty world. Hey, I will see everybody Sunday morning for Sunday live. Have a good weekend. Goodbye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on join thefoot.com. And follow us on Twitter. at the FF Ballers.