Week 5 Matchups + Wheel of Shame, All Cardio Team - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/7

Not valuable at all. It's been stolen by Jalen Waddle. The volume is non-existent. I mean, you're talking about... I think it's because they've got the wrong guy in the role. But yes. So my point is, I think it might... Currently, what you have to expect is what you've been seeing from this team, which says with those hobbled players, it might be better for Mostert, not for Chase Edmonds. And I'm playing Mostert this week. He had 72% of snaps fourth consecutive week where his snap count increased, 18 opportunities, and they're playing a Jets defense that's 19th against the run. I'm going to look at Moster as someone that's going to take the load off of Teddy Bridgewater. And...

I feel more desperate starting Chase Edmonds this week. I feel like if you have to, right, you've got running back problems. You know, you lost Patterson. You lost Taylor. You lost Giovante. Like that's happening all over the place. And at least in that low hand role, he is involved inside the five. So he has now been transported into a goal line back Chase Edmonds has. Which is what Lohan was. Right. Would you play Daryl Henderson against Dallas or Chase Edmonds? Oh, gosh. Mike. Why are you being so gross? Because it's gross out in the streets. Rashad Penny is the answer to that question. He's not on this bench that I'm talking about. Okay. Well, certainly. Tayson Hill's not an option either. No, because he plays tied in. I'll try Chase Edmonds against the Jets in that situation. Darrell Henderson freaks me out. I'm going to take the matchup as well. On the other side, Breece Hall. Breeze Hall is currently leading the NFL in targets at the running back position tied with Austin Echler.

Brees Hall has a touchdown or six plus receptions in all four games. Brees Hall has been a top 20 running back in his last three starts. Last week, 17 carries, and this is the important week, not only because it's the most recent, but because it's the only one was Zach Wilson. They brought Zach Wilson in. I was worried, okay, they're going to need someone to pass, protect. They gave Brees Hall 17 carries, six targets. 66% of the snaps that is elite running back utilization. His talent is great. I think he is basically someone you have to start the rest of the season. Yeah, if you get, this is probably the last opportunity you'll have to pick him up on the cheap if you're banking on that breakout. Because if the opportunity stay where they were last week through the duration of the year, you're going to have a very valuable player. So if I'm looking at Breece Hall starting him this week,

or AJ dealing against the Giants. What are you doing? I would go Breece Hall for sure. Yeah. The Dolphins have been good against the running back position, but Brice with the targets. Now, you only caught two of the six. Yeah, they were not good targets. Because Zach Wilson's biggest struggle is short area targets. He's throwing the ball. No, he had a good game last week. He just couldn't. He struggled like Cam Newton used to struggle on the simple throws in the flat underneath the conk-conk. plays. There was a wheel route where Brees was wide open. I mean, that would have been a touchdown and he threw it behind him. So not every target is the same. I would rather be tied with Austin Echler getting my targets from Justin Herbert. But at the same time, you know, you get the volume. And Miami has been really good. Top five against running backs. If you adjust for the schedule, 16th middle of the pack. So they might not be quite as strong against the run as.

as they seem so far through four weeks. Garrett Wilson tied with Devante Adams for the most targets inside the 10 this year. Elijah Moore has zero of those. Elijah Moore on the all-cardio team as well. Yeah. Elijah Moore was the targets per route run. He was a superstar last year and that has absolutely plummeted. Meanwhile, you've got a shocking stat. Corey Davis has 74 or more receiving yards in three of four games. Yeah. Davis. Yeah, these these offenses, they don't really pay attention to the average draft position of these players. Currently, wide receiver 25. Yeah. Just saying like a name that like certainly we have not been talking about. Also a name I haven't even seen on Twitter. Like yeah, because the conversation.

is about the other two big names. You know, it's like what's happened to Elijah Moore, the talent, the draft capital, what we saw last year. Oh, let's talk about Garrett Wilson. Corey Davis is the forgotten man. And it's really difficult to start a player that you perceive as the third option for a mediocre offense. But we might be wrong. But that's why I'm bringing it up. I'm not saying I'm like, yeah, this is we're going to outsmart everyone. We're going to throw Corey Davis in there. It's just you. We need to pay attention. Like you said, Jay, one game with Zach Wilson. Corey Davis, target share shot up to 21% last week. You need to just keep an eye on what's going on. He's five inches taller than Elijah Moore. He's very friendly down the field for his quarterback. And then Garrett Wilson makes life really easy close to the line of scrimmage, slant routes, opportunities after the catch. It almost feels like Elijah Moore has kind of no place to settle in right now on this offense, despite his talent.

But Tyler Conklin, Jason, you have them as your start of the week this week. Yeah, he's someone that I think in this matchup against the dolphins who are 26th against tight end. He was targeted and running routes a lot with Zach Wilson. So he's just a PPR option. The Chicago Bears are two and two and they take on the three and one Minnesota Vikings. I don't think I really process the three and one Vikings who are likely to move to. four and one this week. Drafking Sportsbook line, Minnesota minus seven and a half. The overrunners 44 points. Last week, the Chicago Bears, listen, gentlemen, season high, 11 completions. We're on the way. Wait, we're on the way. I read that. You said season high. Yeah, I know. But then you said the number 11, which is very low. 390 total passing yards, guys. Oh, in four games. Oh, my gosh. Wow. So please don't start a pass catcher.

on the Chicago Bears. No, don't take solace in the Mooney situation. Yeah. You know, four catches. There's four of 11. He's a good player, but you're really, really, you know, you're gambling, right? You are. But the big question here is, what do you do with David Montgomery and Khalil Herbert? Montgomery returned to a limited practice. Last week, Khalil Herbert has been great. When Montgomery has been off the field, 22 and 20 opportunities. The matchup is not scary against the Minnesota Vikings 28th against fantasy running backs right now, but how do you possibly project the workload to go? I start the starter.

And if David Montgomery is active, I'm going to plug him in my lineup and start him. If he is not active, and I do not expect him to be active. Yeah, it's still questionable. It is questionable. He was back at practice, but the injury looked like it would probably be a multi-week injury. But if he's back, if they say he's good to go, I'm going to start him, and I'm not going to start Kalil Herber in hopes that he splits enough work to be relevant. Obviously, if David Montgomery is not there, Kalil Herbert is a phenomenal start. Gotcha. What about the other side of the ball? Daven Cook is in. Justin Jefferson is in. The question really is do, where are you with Adam Thielen? It was a rough start to the year. It's not really being involved. It's been good lately. But over the last couple weeks, eight targets for 61 against the lions.

uh eight catches for 72 yards against new Orleans Saints last year he's they're they're getting a more balanced offense after the week one where everything was Justin Jefferson and then that completely failed against Philadelphia so I think they just they had a correction so are you confident in yeah even even in the Philadelphia game where where you know it was a complete collapse by the Vikings he had seven targets he didn't have a great fantasy game but the utilization was good no I'm absolutely fine starting uh Adam Thielen. And you know more about that Philly defense now, right? Early in the season, you don't realize how legitimate some of these defenses are. And later on, you're like, okay, makes sense that they struggled in that game. Moving on the 49ers, two and two taking on the Carolina Panthers who are one and three. The San Francisco 49ers defense was seen.

laughing about town in Carolina. Looking forward to this matchup, Drafking Sportsbook Line, San Francisco, six and a half point road favorites, the overrunners 39. That gives Carolina a sweet 16 points. I hope you have the 49ers defense. Yeah, and I don't think they're getting 16 points. The 49ers defense has been... awesome. Adjusted for schedule, they're awesome. Without it and just looking at what they've done so far this season, they're number one against quarterbacks, number two against running backs, number six against wide receivers, number five against tight ends. They're not giving up much anything. Yeah, at all to anyone. Baker's going to do so many of those little pocket pump fake things before he falls down that it's going to be like if you get points for those in your fantasy league, big week coming for Baker.

But no, I mean, there's not a lot of storyline here. Is Christian McCaffrey and no one else, right? That's exactly right. Correct. Not complicated. DJ Moore, put them on your bench. It's not going to be a good week. Correct. Jimmy Garoppolo? Can he get it going with George Kittle? That's what people want to know. Kittle coming off the injury. It's understandable that it might be a slower reintegration into the offense. But, you know, Brandon Ayuk is a valuable target. Debo Samuel is going to be your number one target. Is there less of a place for George Kittle now than there was a couple years ago when he led the league in passing yardage? I do not. Receiving yardage. Yeah, I mean, less of a place than then, sure, because, you know, with Ayuk and Debo, both on the roster and both healthy now, he doesn't quite have the same participation that he had in the offense when you had pretty much one of those two guys in his dominant season. But he is still a good play. I, you know, if I had him.

and another decent option that I picked up while he was injured. I had Pat Fryermuth or whatever. I'm still putting George Kittle in the lineup despite two disappointing weeks because I want the big performance on my roster, not on my bench, and George Kittle is one of the few tight ends that can still do that. The passing defense for the Carolina Panthers is not. their strength. They are still good against the run. They were top six on the season last year, and if you adjust for the schedule, they are the seventh best against running backs right now. So then Jeff Wilson. I'll say looking at what Kittle did last year, it's very similar. Like he's all or nothing. But for the tight end landscape, a tight end that can be the number one on the week, multiple weeks in a row. You just stick with Kittle.

And for Jeff Wilson. Yeah. You know, what decision do you make here based on Carolina being formidable and maybe having other options? Because Jeff was a, you know, he was a bench pickup for you before he became the starter. Sure. But he's just, his volume is, is just, it's incredible. He's, he is the running back position currently for the 49ers. TDP, as far as I know, still going to miss the game. He's, he would be the only running back. That's Ty Davis Price. Yeah. Did you shortcut that name that no one knows? TDP, baby. You know me. Yeah. You have decisions to make on your roster. You have AJ Dillon. You have Ezekiel Elliott. Are you getting? Jeff Wilson is in for me. Really? Yes. The volume to me is just so safe. The last three weeks since being the starter. The monsoon game, he played a lot. But.

It was the monsoon game against Chicago in week one. Since then, 84, 75, 74. Those are his rushing yard totals, and he's thrown in five receptions as well. He feels safe and, to me, has ceiling. The Eagles travel to Arizona. They're 4-0. They take on the two-and-two Cardinals in Arizona. They're five-point favorites, according to the Draft King Sportsbook line. The over-under is 48. It's a lot of points here. Arizona has a ridiculously... bad streak of losing ball games at home. Do you know? It's almost been a calendar year. I was going to say it was October of last year when they last won a home game. It is currently October again. Yeah, I think they had won like 32 to 5 against Houston last year and they haven't won since at home. They went on the road. This game is interesting. The Eagles have never won in Arizona in this stadium going back to 2001.

I also don't think they lose their next four games. Like I think there's almost no chance that the Eagles lose their next four matchups. They're sitting at 4-0. They have been a great, great performer for fantasy players. Jalen Hertz, Miles Sanders, the Monster Week last week. AJ Brown's always in your lineup. Dallas Goddard is, I believe, Mike, started the week this week. Yes. And, you know, Arizona is struggling against the tight-in position. I don't think that, you know, Regardless of how this game transpires, you're not adjusting anything that you've been doing with Philly. No, no, you're going to start all four of the Philly passing game options in Jalen Hertz, AJ Brown, Devonza Smith, and Dallas Goddard. The question is, are you staying in the flames with Miles Sanders? Are you starting Miles Sanders or Jeff Wilson? Oh, that is, that's a tough question. That has a lot to do with game script to me.

Is Arizona going to keep this game competitive or not? Because if the running game is what dominates the second half, and we've seen two games this year where Philly didn't even score in the second half, you know, maybe you're making a mistake with Miles. Yeah, I mean, it's, but you've got away game script and, I mean, touchdown upside that I think Philadelphia is going to put up, what is their implied? Implied total is 26.8 points. I mean. I want a running back who's on an applied team total over 25. Home favorites, which the Philadelphia Eagles here will be home favorites in Arizona. It should not be that typical. What does that mean? I'm saying Arizona is so bad at home. This is like an opposite, you know, you usually want the home team. You ever seen that movie Freaky Friday?

I would start Miles Sanders over Jeff Wilson. That's how my rank is. The Cardinals have been beaten by running backs and tight ends, and I think they're going to continue this week. And wide receivers and other positions. Sure. They haven't been that bad against wide receivers. There's a joke, Jason. It's kind of a gag. Don't correct the gag. Okay. Well, I apologies. I apologize. Supposed to lean into it and then we bounce back and forwards. It's kind of like getting him. I mean, that's not on me, but I'm used to jokes that are funny. So it's like I didn't know as a joke. That joke hurt.

Yeah. Well, look, Arizona's going to win the game, so it's not a complicated situation. Kyla Murray, quietly the quarterback six on the year amongst the disappointment in the fantasy community. The fantasy community, can we agree that, like, if you have Kyla Murray, you're allowed to pick a different quarterback for the first half? Well, this is a fact. The Cardinals have been the worst offense in the first half of football, and by some metrics, the single best offense in the second half of football. Those things. Check out from what I've been watching. Yeah. So, yeah, it'd be nice if you could do a pivot. Yeah. Who starts quick on a weekly basis? Usually Jalen hurts. There you go. They've been putting up massive first half, specifically the second quarters have been outstanding for the Eagles, and then they kind of disappear in the second half and just let their defense shut them down. The defense of the Eagles has been really, really great. They've played some good offenses. So if you're just looking at, you know, totals they've given up, you might go all their middle of the pack. But they have been.

truly elite. I think there's going to be problems with their pass rush against Kyler and the offensive line. I would be happy to play the Eagles DST. On the Cardinal side, honestly, Kyler, he's, he's an every week quarterback. Connor, if I can get out, I would this particular week. Again, running back is very difficult. And then Hollywood Brown and Zach Gers, the return of Rondale Moore has not looked like we can have any faith in playing Rondale Moore. And it has also eliminated the dorsch from any sort of dependable work. So I don't know how a player coming back takes out two guys, but it's nuts. And then Zach Hertz is just, he's going to get six plus receptions. Yeah, he's a good option at the tied in position against his former team. Dallas 3 and 1 taking on the Los Angeles Rams, who are two and two. The Draft King Sportsbook line, the Rams minus five and a half. The over under is 43.

Dallas's defense has been incredible, and you're going up against Matthew Sackford. Yeah, I mean, the pass rush is the strength of the Dallas Cowboys defense, and the weakness of the Los Angeles Rams offense is the offensive line. This is, I would love to play the Cowboys DST. I worry about pretty much all RAM options other than Cooper Cup right now. Alan Robinson, do you think he shed a tear at the retirement of Blake Bortles, his former champion? Yeah, who knew that every year we've played the game? Well, this is the best quarterback that Alan Robinson has played with. It turns out it was actually Blake Bordles all along. I think that Alan Robinson will go for five or more catches in this game. Now, I'm not saying to play him. Please don't. Don't do that. But I do think you're going to see a redistribution of some targets in this ball game.

Squeaky wheel style. The, uh, uh, Brandon Marshall was on the new Kay Adams show. I just, I got the, the clip. It was really interesting because he was up in Adams. Yeah, I believe that. I believe that's the name, but it was Brandon Marshall kind of breaking down, uh, talking about when, like those years in Chicago where Jay Cutler, smoking Jay Cuddy only through to Brandon Marshall. And he talked about like what Marshall had to deal with in the locker room. Oh, really? Like resentment? Yeah, of like Forte being pissed off all the time. Hester being pissed off. And like the human, fantasy football is so easy to remove yourself from the human element of the game. And it totally exists. Like Alan Robinson right now, it's, you know, it's easy to make the jokes of like, how do you get this huge contract and go and suck and you were bad last year? Are you just done with football? But how mad?

Right now is Alan Robinson and is he, is Alan Robinson the type of person, the human who will truly raise that concern or will he just bury it down and live with no targets? When you're an all pro former, you know, pro bowler, it's a lot. Like if you're Ron Dale Moore and you're losing targets to DeAndre Hopkins, whatever, you didn't deserve them. You know what I mean? You come in with a humility built into not having been a professional star. With Robinson, it's much more difficult. Big contract. previously been a star, and you can talk about separation until you're blue in the face. He's got more separation than Michael Thomas this year. He's got more separation than the McLaren or Pitts. Like, targets are going to be the thing that you look at and say, okay, you give me some targets, see what I can do with them. I think there will be resentment there. I think that will be a problem, and that doesn't mean he's going to perform. That just means it's disruptive to the team. Their offense has struggled. Stafford, you cannot play Matthew Stafford in fantasy.

You can't really start a running back from this team against Dallas. Nope, Cooper Cup and Tyler Higby. The McVeyeroma needs to be, don't let it trick you into playing players other than Cooper Cup. Yeah, this is a, this is a game that, you know, I don't expect a lot of points in. Tyler Higby, sorry. Yes, Tyler Higby, Cooper Cup, they're in. I would sit everybody else. I don't expect a ton of points. I mean, the over under is only 43. And I side on the under of this because on both sides of the ball, like the Rams have been shutting down running backs. They are number one so far both in how many fancy points I've given up on the season and when you adjust for the schedule. So it's really hard to say, oh, I want what Zeke's been doing. I want more of that. Or Tony Pollard, who hasn't been involved in the passing game. So, you know.

CD Lamb? CD Lam's looked great. With Cooper Rush, the target share is outstanding. He's the only player who has eight plus targets every single game this season. Basically, this is like the Cooper Cup CD Lamb show where you've got the wider receiver ones going back and forth. Yeah, I'd be trying to get out of Zeke this week. I don't want to play him. He's been double digits one time this year. Yeah, I agree. Try if you can, again, running back very tough. But if you can get Zeke on the bench and just watch what happens. But the 19 carries. Very inefficient against the Manders, but Jay, we were mentioning that the Manders are actually a strong run defense. Not quite as good as this one. Right, but this is a thing to watch. Here is my action plan for Zeke. Oh, you got an action plan. Well, I just, I got like looking at the schedule here, we got Rams, we got Philadelphia. Who? That's not going to be a good time for Ezekiel Elliott. But right after that, Detroit, Chicago, a bye week, Green Bay.

Minnesota, the Giants. Okay. We have a stretch run here where Zeke. With Dak. With Dak coming back, you have a stretch run coming where as long as if he maintains the opportunity split, which we saw last, because Pollard was terrible last week. If Zeke can continue to maintain that, well, I'm going to get 16 plus carries a week. Show us that. then maybe you trade for him on the cheap if you need a running back or you just you bench him and then have the confidence later. Yeah, two weeks from now, scoop him up off of waivers. I hear that too. I hear you loud. That is that is not impossible, which is ridiculous. And with Zeke Healthy, I have never started Pollard and I never will because the basement for Pollard on the week is what you got last week, which is a couple of touches. And it's just so risky. It was one of those really, really funny.

Stat lines where Tony Pollard had opportunities. He had, in fact, eight attempts. His longest carry of the day was nine yards. Okay. And he finished with six total rushing yards. The Bengals, Sunday night football, two and two, and two taking on the Ravens, two and two. The over under here is 47 and a half. The Draft King's Sportsbook line is Baltimore minus three and a half. Winner taking control of the division, Cincinnati with two straight wins after the tough start. And I feel like this. You know, if Cincinnati can get this game, it changes the trajectory of the whole year and the feel and the vibe around the team. Joe Burrow, Mike, you have them as a start of the week. I mean, you are rubbing your hands together for the fantasy upside in this matchup. Yeah, I'm so excited for this. This is the prime time pallet cleanser that we all deserve after the Thursday night disaster. The last time we saw these two teams playing, it was just.

Fantasy explosion, Joe Burrow, quarterback two, quarterback one, a game of 504. Like this is all systems go for both sides of the ball. Burroughs in, mix, and though the inefficiency that he's had, I think it still turns into fantasy points this week. I'm not concerned at all about that. Chase Higgins, like, where are you guys with like Boyd this week? Do you get in on? I don't really do that. I don't dabble in the Boyd. Yeah, I mean, I don't blame me. I just wanted to get a temperature check. It's a little bit chasing what happened last year because if you remember, the last time these two games, these two teams played, the Bengals put up 41 points. The time before that, the Bengals also put up 41 points. So this, you know, in division, there's going to be, you know,

wanting to have some payback, but they wanted that last year. I think that the Bengals right now look like they've kind of got their number. And so if you wanted to throw in a flex play of Tyler Boyd, at least the matchup appears to be right for it. The Baltimore Ravens have a banged up secondary. And, you know, I could see Boyd having a decent game here. Now Lamar is going to likely be without Rashad Bateman, who did not practice Wednesday, Thursday, not spotted today. That is unfortunate. And that's where this whole entire matchup can go wrong, is that the Ravens can't keep up. I mean, J.K. Dobbins, still coming off the injury, coming off a chest injury this week. Good to go, yeah, but explosive, not quite yet. Mark Andrews didn't do much last week. He's going to have to do a lot in this game if Lamar and company are going to keep up with this Cincinnati offense. And then DuVernay is a great start, you know, without Bateman. Yeah, I don't disagree with that.

Looking back at the box score, so the last time Mark Andrews was against this team, he went 8 for 125 and a score. Although the first time they met, it was earlier in the year, last year was only 3 for 48. But I think we see the big bounce back from Andrews. And I agree. If Bateman is out, Duvernay is incredibly interesting. Who do you think wins this ball game? I'm just curious, because I think I am moving myself to the Cincinnati side of the team. I have the Bengals winning. I took the Bengals. Okay. Let's, anybody else on that side of the ball we need to talk about? I don't think so. Let's move to the Raiders, one and three taking on the... Did we talk about Dobbins?