Fantasy Football - Starts of the Week + Week 9 Breakdown, Awww Shucks! - Podcast for 10/30

But nobody's really a believer in Cam Ward right now, and I just don't know. I know he could do better than he's doing. I just don't know how much you could do. I'm really curious because I haven't listened to yesterday's Dynasty show. I know that Mike, it's gotten better for Cam Ward statistically, but you went back and did a film study on him this week. I know in the very beginning of the game, you're like it wasn't good, but I didn't hear the results of that. So what did you see this last week on film with Camden? So every week on the Dynasty podcast.

Borg and Betts pick a guy or a team, and then Jason and I, we do the same thing. We go back. We watch all of their snaps. And this game against the Colts was a disaster. It looked terrible like Cam's not making the right choices when he needs to check down. The offensive line is terrible. No one's really getting open, at least in that one game. People weren't getting open at the clip that they need to, talking about the wide receivers. Which right now is two rookies. Yeah. And an Iommanner had at least, he had at least two disgusting drops. Is it Van Jefferson? Yeah. Yeah. So the, I'm, yeah, the quote of the show was, was Matthew Betts called the Titans a completely unsurious operation right now. And that, that was what I saw. That was the one. I didn't watch every game. I just watched the most recent one. Well, I mean, you watched.

We watch every game. Yes. Well, I'm saying, like, I didn't go back to the All-22 for every, but I left it disheartened because of our, we had our conversation on Tuesday of Chimre D.K's, his production, like, last two weeks has been okay. Which you can correlate with a change at. That's, yeah, with Callahan being gone. Yeah, like getting him involved and he was a high draft pick. That was the optimism of, they call him Diet Amun Ra. Well, there was the optimism of, I'm like, hey, I'm going to go. Let's go see for sure. Hey, Jason, I'm playing. I'm playing DK in a league. I'm playing DK and a league. I'm 100% believe it. Wait, you really are though, right? Yeah, for I mean, for sure. Now, we haven't brought this up. It was, this is a really important thing to bring up. What's that? The Water Bowl. This is a huge, huge matchup going on between Al Borland and Andy this week. So people, please understand. Andy is not bad at fantasy football. His team sucks. Yeah.

raw rotten eggs okay these were the two teams in the championship these were the two teams in the championship they sold out to get there it's a keeper league so did it cost you it cost them everything so they all of our picks they are it was worth it though wasn't it nice i see how old has brought the trophy up to dozer's alley um he wants to yeah he wants to make sure that people know so anyways yeah okay kiss that um Essentially their two teams are by far the worst two teams in our league. They are hot trash. And one of them will face the league's punishment, which no one wants to do. We use the wheel of water and every single team in the league gets to do bad things to them with water. And then you draft wet. And then you draft wet. They are facing off this week.

Yeah, I really want to beat him. They're pretty much tied right now for, they're near enough in points and in record where it's like this might not be the entire reason someone finishes last, but it probably is going to make a big difference. Because you guys aren't getting many wins and one of you has to win this week. Yeah, that's right. That's right. Yeah, we are. Yeah, I don't think either of us will win another matchup or even get media. Would you pull up your roster, please? He's been giving it to us. I know, I know. Some of those guys were playing. Okay, you want me to read it? I do. Superstar Jaden Daniels. That's awesome. He's been super available for me. No Terry. Bam Knight. Hey, that's not bad. That's a good start. That's a good point. My RB2 is Kyle Monong guy. Okay. I am starting Travis Hunter. All right. Okay. I almost made him my start of the week, but I was starting Jameson Williams. Okay. He could. He could. He could. He could is the best way. He could.

I think I can't. My tight end, who you couldn't get off of a free agency because I signed him a week before. After you traded me. Darren Waller. That's a Ronda Gadsden. That's good. Okay. And then I have a sweet flex combo of Alec Pierce and Taj Spears right now. I can honestly see how that team wins. Yeah, it could be. I thought it was going to be worse. He has Stafford, Harvey, Kyron, DJ Moore, Keenan, McBride, Bourne. Mooney. This is the perfect mix of he could. Oh, this will be a fun matchup. There's a couple of superstars in there. We got to, uh, he could, Pingree. Pingree. I know you're listening. We got to post this matchup this weekend on social. If people have broken legs and they race, somebody wins that race. Yeah. Someone has to win. Somebody's the winner. Yeah. Good luck, buddy. You may not finish. Likewise. Yeah. Yeah, you could not finish the race. I'm glad we, I'm really.

appreciative of that timeout for that discussion. You're welcome. If you had Pollard or Spears, would you play Pollard over Spears or would you take the more explosive play guy? I currently have Spears higher in my rankings. Pollard has not been efficient or good, and Spears on a limited touch basis has been very explosive. I'm not looking forward to playing him as you have to. But if I had both those guys, I think I would go spear. Pollard is limited with a neck injury, at least on Wednesday. Comani Vidal is my start of the week on the other side. That's not a common one. A neck injury? I mean, it's part of the body. No, I know, but it's just not common. Okay. You've seen a lot of neck injuries? I've seen a few, yeah. I've been around the block, man. Ladd McConkey was limited with the calf injury. What do we do?

McConkey, Allen, Quentin, Johnston, Gadsden, if you had Quentin and Gadsden in a flex choice, would you choose the tight end in that situation? That's the stay in the flames versus going back to the wide receiver. No, I would go Quentin Johnston. If it was a flex, I still believe he is more important to the offense matchup-wise. Is he actually healthy? Because it has been since the game where he got injured, we have seen nothing. for him in terms of production. I know he had the one wide open where Herbert didn't see him. However, production is 40 yards in 82% of the snaps. That's the game he got hurt. Misses a week, comes back, plays the full allotment of snaps, ends with two for 30. Then he plays half the game against Minnesota. The snaps this last week was. That was a product of the game, but he still played half and he didn't get a single target.

He's not on their injury report at all, I don't believe. No. But it still happens. Gadsden is making a huge impact on, you know, he's basically a wide receiver for them. Yeah. That's why I think that's the one flex decision. I would go Gadsden because he's really a wide receiver in the offense and because he's on fire and he's averaging 17 fantasy points a game when we just got a goose. Like you don't need to go back to the goose. You've got to go to the gander and that is Gadsden. Nice. Yeah, that's, yeah, all right, we're done. He's the highest yards per target for a rookie tight end in the last decade. He's very exciting. He finds space down the field, and Herbert finds a way to evade pressure, and those two, it works out really well. The way that Quentin Johnson was having success in the beginning of the year, we talked about how hard he was working to.

to come back to the quarterback or to find himself space when in the very beginning of the year when Lad wasn't getting it done and Quentin Johnson was the best and Keenan was great. We said this is not going to be that way for Ladd. And then it switched and Ladd was doing great and Keenan was not. And then it switched and now Gadsden's doing great and Quentin Johnson's not. The truth is all four of those players are excellent. They can all do it if necessary. Whatever the defense gives them on a particular week. Herbert will take. And it's great for Herbert to have another weapon. It will not be every week consistency from any one of those four guys. I think you start all four of those guys more often than not and just hope it's your week. Keenan Allen is, believe it or not, the wide receiver eight on the year. Now they have another buy, but he has the wide receiver eight and it has come through four games you were happy and four games you were sad legitimately. Yeah. So it is, it's roulette right now.

where I feel the most confident about McConkey, how he's been coming on of late in Gadsden and the other two. You hope you get the right week. That's how it works. Falcons are three and four. They take on the six and two New England Patriots known for managing the running back rotation to a six and two record. Vegas line, New England minus five and a half. Imagine being eight and no. That's okay. Yeah, sure. That's the difference. We can't say for sure. Imagine being two and six. Over Under is 44 and a half. Who do you like in this game? You like New England at home? Everyone likes New England at home, which means the Falcons are going to destroy them. They're going to show up and be that team that we've seen like three or four times this year. Well, three times this year. The Falcons are a conundrum. They genuinely have looked like a legitimate playoff contender beating Buffalo, having just some awesome.

showings both sides of the ball, especially their defense, and then they look comically bad some weeks, just like a disaster. Like 10 to 34 at home against the Miami Dolphins? Yeah, like 30 to nothing against the Carolina Panthers and a loss. They just comically bad. Now, they smoked the Vikings on the road, right? That was an example of that. 22 to 6. It's so wild. So this, but it's always when you don't expect it. Is this your official? Atlanta upset of the week? Yeah, I mean, this would be, yes, this is my official Atlanta upset of the week. You get one Atlanta upset of the week per week. Okay. Well, I'm going to choose to use it this week because Atlanta's playing in the game. Yeah. Making it easier to use. Drake May, unbelievable. Unbelievable. He's third in the MVP voting right now. They won five straight games. He is, he proved last week against a Cleveland defense that is tremendous. Doesn't matter.

You know, I love Kashan Booty. I think he is absolutely a player that you can play every week right now. I think, you know, you've got an injury situation with Ramandre. You know you can't trust Trayvion right now. I don't know if I'm messing around with those guys. The Falcons matchup would be a good one for a running back to have success. If Ramandre was out, I would. I would play Henderson. And if he's active and healthy and practices the rest of the week, I'm fine playing him. Ramandre. I mean, you've had some duds and then you've had some pretty good games. So booty, yes. On the other side, Bijon, yes, Drake London, if he's healthy, of course. But you need to get Michael Pennix Jr. back. And this is a tough matchup, tough situation. Patriots defense, seventh against quarterbacks, second against running backs, fifth against wide receivers. Is there a world where you're, you know, you said it's Atlanta upset of the week? I mean, are you in on both wide receivers?

The wide receivers to me are... Mooney and London. No, I'm not in on Mooney. If London is playing, I'm going to start him, but that's it. I've got to see something from Mooney. Obviously last week, it was Kirk Cousins, so you can forgive it, and I could see Mooney being just fine going forward. I certainly would not be dropping Mooney. If he was out there, I'd pick him up and stash him, but I'm watching and waiting to see what happens. You know, this is this is going to be, this is going to be a litmus test. Oh, boy. For, I think for the Patriots. Kyle Pitts was my start of the week and is my start of the week at Tide Inn. It is a good matchup for tight ends and pretty much nothing else. Yep. Pitts or Kincaid? I would be Pitts on that one. I think I'd play Kincaid. Kelsey.

or pits i'd probably stick with kelsey on that one i'll see lovelin or pits i'd go pits for sure just for the safe floor i don't i'm guessing michael go i'll go i'll go love one there san francisco's five and three wait what's his first name colston mhm mm-hmm catston you didn't think of it if you would if you would come up on the spot what about the great catsby oh not too bad they're like we're Now we're into a third layer of the joke. Yeah, we should be in zero layers. The 49ers are five and three. The Giants are two and six. The Vegas line, San Francisco on the road, minus two and a half. Overrunners 48 and a half. The 49ers barely arrived in Houston last week. Vegas knew something. Yeah, they did. They didn't go that direction here. The Giants, two and six. You know, Jackson Dart, I'll start there. He has truly been very, very good, considering how limited

his weapons really are in this offense and how much he's having to do. You look at some rookie quarterbacks, like what I think they'll do with Tyler Shuck this week, which is trying to manage him, screen past his short area targets. Jackson Darts kind of being given the reins. It's like go figure out how to play football, chuck it down the field, do ridiculous things. The team is on his back. It's like you have to go out and figure out how to win this game for us, which is crazy for a rookie. And do it with Wondale and no neighbors and now no scataboo and do it with Tyrone Tracy.

We had a big trade in our league. Somebody went after Tyrone Tracy this week. I don't know if my expectations for him are as high as this person's were. Yeah, it's not a terrible matchup for him. I think Tyrone Tracy is a good start this week personally. Do you think he, I mean, what's strange about him is he obviously started the year getting the majority of the opportunity, struggled. It was Washington. It was on the road. I get it. Do you think he is going to be better in this offense this year? than he was for this offense last year? Or is it more of the same? I think it'll be more of the same. Which is what, RB2 category? Yeah. If you want a reminder of what Tyrone Tracy did last year in those games where he was, you know, solid, he was a running back two. You're talking it was pretty much either seven points or 14 points like every week. So looking at after the buy last week.

14.7 points, 13.5, 16 and a half, 4 points, 14.9, 8.3, 7.6. It was like he's going to get the utilization to be good enough for fantasy football. Will he get a touchdown? That will make the difference on a really solid game or not. The two biggest start sits with him are Rico Dowdle or Tyrone Tracy and Travis E.T.N. or Tyrone and Tracey. So I would go Travis E.T.N. Tyrone Tracy, Rico Dowdell. Yeah, I think I can agree with that. And Darius Slayton is still on waiver wires. I don't think he should be. He definitely should not be. I mean, he had a bomb touchdown last week with an egregious nonsensical flag that took it away. It happened. It wasn't theoretical or hypothetical. It was it.

ethereal or ephemeral. It was just had that play counted, which it should have. Everybody, he would have been a top waiver wire pickup this week. Like, oh, they need a guy, the number one guy, you know. It is sort of Darius Clayton's career arc is occasionally catching a bomb touchdown that makes us all jump in. So maybe get it before it happens. I would. I'd pick them up if you got a spot. Do you care about the tight ends at all? New York right now. No, no. I wish I did. I really want to care about Theo Johnson, but it's just not good. Do you care about the wide receivers in San Francisco right now? Yeah, yeah. Someone is going to be valuable. Who is it? Just tell me the future. Jennings. Okay. So far one game this year is a top 40 wide receiver. Mm-hmm. He's not, I'm not playing him. You don't have to. Are you? I'll bet. You're going to play him? I'll bet you would play him if he was on your roster.

I mean, it's not been good. I mean, Brock Purdy, we're expecting him back. Are we? Like, is that, we've been expecting him back for three weeks? Is there, has there been an official? No. Goodness, no. Oh, okay. But I'm expecting him back based on what I had looked at. It was basically, you know, he's equivocating. Head coach Kyle Shanahan's talking about, you know, it's early in the week. I don't see it as a long shot for him to play. That's kind of the language. So. He is a dirty liar, though. I don't feel like their favorite two and a half without him. Let's see, 19 hours ago we have video and the quote is, Brock Purdy is moving really good out there for being, quote, limited. That's a speculation from a. Speculation. It was going to be speculative. Yeah, I mean, McCaffrey, you play and Kettle you play, but I don't have the conviction you do to choose one of these wide receivers to succeed. Well, the wide receiver I want is George Kettle.

And I would be thrilled to have him in my lineup. Yeah, but that's cheating. Wait, that, that tweet was 19 hours ago. Now from the same account 51 minutes ago. Okay. Update, Brock Purdy and Ricky Pierce are all trending to be out this week. Great. That escalated real fast. So it would be Mac Jones? It would be. Does that mean it's Kendrick Bourne? Yeah, it could be. I mean. Yeah, I agree with you. Don't start a wide receiver. The Kendrick born in the last two weeks with Mack Jones was awful. Five receptions over the last two weeks, I think. You just, this is what I'm saying. Just freaking. Ricky Pearsall is. Oh, dude. He is very close to being out as long as he was out when he got shot. Yeah. Wow. He's missed a lot of games. Which is a PCL, right? It also makes you realize, like watching this offense makes you realize how.

He is their number one. He will be very good. If that's a guy that you could trade for, stash, pick up off waivers if you don't have an IR league and he's just been sitting out there. At some point, this is still a long season ahead of us. He will come in and make an impact. When he went down to injury, he was, was he leading the league in receiving yards? He was dominating. Yeah. Yeah, this is the long game with him. I mean, he was brought up on the second half sleeper list. But it was, you know, you just don't know when he's really coming back. He has been trending the wrong direction for too long. By the way, a couple of injury updates to follow up on. Nico Collins was seen participating in practice again on Thursday. Seems like he'll be back from the concussion. And should clear protocol if all goes well today. That's nice. Very much so.

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