guys who are also similar in Hollywood Brown, Terry McLaurin, and Debo. Three breakout wide receivers last year as rookies who, Andy, I know you like Debo the most. I'm a Hollywood guy and Mike's a Terry McLaurin. You don't like Hollywood more than Debo, though. When I look, I think Debo is safer, but I think the upside, you know, I do look at the upside with Hollywood as, you know, I would say the ceiling, if they both hit peak ceiling, I would.
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145 passagesgo with Hollywood Brown. But yeah, let's give this pick to Mike, because I would be happy with any one of those three guys. But this would be a situation where I would not expect Hollywood, even though he's clearly furthest down in the ADP. If you're playing that like, Terry's higher. Marquiche will absolutely make it back. Stone Cold Lot. Put it on the book. Like an instant water bet? Instant water bet. Our first ever, we're going to know who wins this water bet on this show and about,
30 seconds. Yeah. Well, Mike has to make the pick first. If he takes Hollywood right now in order to ruin me and give me water, that would be a problem. Owl? You need to go fill a cup of water right now. Are we doing it on the show? Why not? It's going down your back. It's definitely going down your back. What have you done? That's fine. Or Jason's. Oh, for sure. Now, wait, who's on what side of the back? So I'm betting that Hollywood will make it back to our next pit.
And I'm saying he won't. Mike, I'll pay $10 to do. I cannot influence. He's taking Debo or McLaren? I do have, looking through my projections, I do have Debo a few spots ahead of Terry McLaurin. So I got, like I got Debo at 23, Terry at 27. This is very small difference in ranking. And Terry McLaren is just my dude, man.
So you're going to take him? He's just my dude. I got to take Terry McCle. All right. I almost took Debo when you gave me your rankings, but it was your pick. Here we go. Oh, no. Let's find out. Oh, he's off the way. I've never ever been so happy to have a guy I love go off the board. See, when you're in your real drafts and you're worried, you need to make a bet so that either way you're happy. Just go port on him. Mind the electronics. Yeah, Al.
I have a laptop here, so you better watch yourself. This is where you can pause the show. Go to YouTube.com slash fantasy football. I'm not looking forward to this. I mean, it's very chilly in this office. Stone cold lock. Yeah, all right. Oh. Oh, the water is going down. Oh, man. That was a large cup. It is still being bored. My butt crack.
All right. So needless to say, now that I am all wet. Yes. Oh, my gosh. And it's pooling beneath me. Our first ever on-air water payout. Oh, my gosh. I don't feel comfortable. Terry McLaurin, we took him. That's not good. Just for the record, if you want to know how close it went, some highlights from the rest of the sixth round. He did not go in the sixth round. Debo went three picks later. Kyler Murray off the board at 605.
I don't hate that. If you are into Kyla Murray in year two with what we saw last year, that's fine. A.J. Green win at 606. I am so wet. DeAndre Swift at 612. He got drafted where, and I've never heard of that player. That is referring to my back and my booty. Kareem Hunt started the seventh round. Hollywood Brown ended up going at 705.
It looks like seven picks before ours. But this is usually the example that I think is good for people who are at the turn to hear. Like for me, I want to take my shot on Hollywood Brown. I want to, he's the guy I believe in. I believe in obviously the Baltimore offense. That's what I want on my team. And so you might think, oh, well, can I play the game and wait? Because Hollywood might drop. If you want that guy, you would have to have drafted him.
higher than he usually goes. So, you know, when you're at the turn, take who you want. All right. But what's interesting about that, just to dig in for a second, is that can be, that can be really difficult on tier-based drafting and on your rankings. Because you love Hollywood. You don't want to miss a chance at Hollywood. He's probably not ranked anywhere close to where we should have taken him there. Right. So it is a temptation. Mostly because of my ranking is very low. Yeah, I mean, I'm just saying it's a temptation to be like,
You end up selecting your guy before maybe, you know, which is okay. I definitely recommend you doing that. Like the ultimate draft kit, if you're using the app version, it gives you that ability where you can highlight a player. You go in, you can see where we have guys rank, but go in, go in tag players. Star them. Make your decision. Pick your guys as well.
Yeah, and I will say this with reference to what you're saying. When you're picking your sixth player, it's a lot easier and I think more appropriate to take a shot on the guys that you want ahead of their ADP than it is when you're on your two, three turn and you're like, oh man, but I really want this guy. And, you know, usually the top of those drafts, they're...
Over the last several years, they're more accurate than not. I mean, nobody knows the busts and the injuries and those type of things. But if you look at fantasy value per player per pick through the draft, the top is fantasy point heavy for a reason. All right. We are in the last pick of the seventh round, first pick of the eighth round. Lay out our team now. Josh Jacobs and Chris Carson and David Montgomery. I like it. At running back, Julio Jones, DJ, more Terry McLaren at wide receiver. I like it. We're balanced.
We're on the board here. A number of quarterbacks. The quarterback run happened right after our pick. Oh, nice. Kyler, Russell Wilson, Deshaun Watson, Josh Allen, and Matt Ryan all went. So Drew Brie is still on the board. Tom Brady, Carson Wins, Aaron Rogers. Stafford, Rothlessberger. Yeah. And that's probably where the list ends for me in terms of wanting them as my... I would agree. Locked in starter. Wide receivers available, Marvin Jones. He loves being available late.
You have, I mean, he's a player that kind of jumps off the board here. Christian Kurt, John Brown, James and Crowder. Deontay Johnson, if you want to buy into some upside with Big Ben coming back, Johnson, I think, you know, with where Juju went in the third round, you're looking at the eighth round for Deontay Johnson. And I think both players have an opportunity to bounce back in an offense that will throw the ball much better than they did last year. I would also throw out at this point in the draft, you know, this is where. Jerry Judy?
I was going to throw out... Cedee Land. Jared Kukh. Jared Kuk is, you know, a guy who I know he's not a heavy target volume tight end. But we're not going to really find a locked and loaded heavy target volume guy at this point in the draft. You're looking for upside, which usually does come with touchdowns. And Jared Kuk is someone I would look at here, unless you have a strong belief in, say, like a Hayden Hurst. If you've got that guy that you are like...
I believe Haydenhurst, and I'll say this, if you looked at the ultimate draft kit rankings and the changes that have happened, I recently went in based on more information and looked deeper at the splits with Austin Hooper last year and Calvin Ridley. I ended up bumping Ridley down and Haydenhurst up a little bit. So I am rising on Haydenhurst. If you want to pick a guy like that, let's say you totally are in on Jono Smith. Well, if you've got guys like that, then definitely don't take a Jared Cook here.
But I do think he represents a higher tier, a more known commodity at this point in the draft than all those other late-round tight-end dart throws. So where do you guys stand on whether you would want? I don't have any problem with Jared Cook here because of our team's makeup. All of our players have guaranteed opportunities. All of our players are the, you know, we didn't draft the Clyde Edwards-Alaire, that we have to wait to see them develop over a partial part of the season.
So drafting Jared Cook and getting a tier difference at tight end, if that's what you believe, which I haven't ranked that way, I don't have any problem with it. You know, I didn't mention the running backs on the board. You know, Jordan Howard's on the board. And then you take some of the gambles, the J.K. Dobbins or Philip Lindsay. I mean, it's not a comfortable place for. Marlon Mac is still on the board. There's a bunch of backup running backs on the board and Sony Michelle. So I could go Jared Cook, Marvin Jones. I could go Jared Cook, Jordan Howard.
That would be the two votes that I have. I am fine drafting Jared Cook, but I will say this. I think I'm out, man. On Cook? I think I'm out on Jared Cook. I have him as my tight end 10. I'm happy to be wrong on Jared Cook. Maybe he can repeat the absolute insane touchdown numbers, but just it reminds me of Eric Ebron's season from a couple years ago, and I was staunchly out on Ebron going into the next.
He had 43 receptions last year for Jared Cook. Right. I mean, and he can do it again just because of the team. I'm more confident in Drew Brie's throwing accurate touchdown passes to to Jared Cook. But I'm more in on taking my shot at this point, more in on taking my shot on one of the like a Gisicki or for me, for me Mike Gassicki, Blake Jarwin, Hayden, Chris Herndon. No a fan. No a fan. Like I'm just at this point.
If I were running this team, I would just completely bypass it. Let's bypass the tight end up with one of those guys because there's plenty of people there. And we can stock up on wide receiver. I would take Deontay Johnson. I would take Deontay Johnson. Yeah. I mean, he has the, of all the players that we're talking about, he has the best opportunity, I think, to take a tier jump at this stage in the draft. You're not going to get that from Christian Kirk with DeAndre Hopkins coming in the door. You're not going to get that with John Brown with Stefan Diggs coming in the door. And you're not going to get that with Marvin Jones. Marvin Jones is a.
is a better value, but does not have the same potential to really take it up a notch and be a home run pick. So this is like, are you getting depth or are you getting... And you could take both. You could go, Deonti and Marvin Jones. I don't think we can... The one player that I don't think we can bypass here... Ronald Jones the second. I could throw up if I would allow myself to listen to the words you just said. But instead...
No, Jordan Howard, to me, he's the last starting running back. He's always been good for fantasy. He's, you know, he's going to, he's another one of those guys. It's probably a 250 carry player. I got no problem with it, Jason. Jordan Howard off the board, Deonté Johnson off the board. Got a couple bench spots left. Need a tie-in. Need a quarterback. Need an illustrious defense. Now, we're sitting here, the last pick of the ninth round. Some names, I'll just highlight between the eighth and ninth round after we picked. Sonny Michelle?
Off the board in the eighth round. Somewhat interesting if he is the starter to go in the eighth round. Henry Ruggs off the board, first wide receiver drafted. Eighth pick of the eighth round, Sterling Shepard at 811. Probably a value there in the same way that Marvin Jones is. Damian Williams at 904, six rounds after Clyde Edwards-Alair. Anthony Miller at 906. Okay, Aaron Rogers finally off the board. It's our pick.
The last pick of the ninth round, and here is Drew Brie. Oh, my goodness. It's so great. And I was going to point this out at the, you know, you were talking about the quarterback run last round. Well, when there's a run on a onesie position, a position, tight ends are quarterbacks and there's this huge run. You don't need to feel like you have to get in on it right away or at the end because what happens is everyone now has their quarterback. And so the next round, nobody is drafting quarterbacks. So we waited.
On a turn... There's two and a half rounds without a quarterback drafted after... Exactly. After the run. So to me, Drew Breeze here would be a great pick. I'm very high on Drew Breezes here. Yeah, I'm fine moving forward with him at the quarterback. I mean, you're getting to the point of the draft where the value is really there. And...
We have two picks, and Jared Cook's still on the board. So I think at this point, you get a stack. I'm fine at this point. 10th round pick, Jared Cook, and you get the stack with Breeze and Cook. Oh, man. Yeah, that's exciting to have. A 9-10 stack with Breeze and Cook with this kind of balanced team, I am loving this team. Yeah, they don't always work out. I love drafting from the 12 spot. Drew Breeze at quarterback, Josh Jacobs, Chris Carson, David Montgomery, Jordan Howard at running back.
I love that four-pack because I feel like you, no matter what happens. And we just talked about the COVID thing at the beginning. You might need a little bit more depth. And those guys all have guaranteed roles at wide receiver, Julio Jones, DJ Moore, Terry McLaren and Deontay Johnson. Jared Cook is our tight end. And we are into the 11th round. A couple of spots left. Carry on Johnson went in the 10th round. Jason, too late for you? I...
I plead the fifth. I mean, I don't, I can't talk about carrying out. I know, I know. Mike Gisicki, 10th round pick, Tom Brady, 10th round pick. Oh. 11th round highlights, not a lot of them. I mean, Alexander Madison off the board at 1102. Maybe somebody we could have thought about earlier with the cook situation, depending on whether you think he'll get something done. You hate to waste too high of a pick on Madison. I agree. If a deal gets done. And at this point in the offseason, we're still very early. Still pretty early.
