Keep/Trade/Cut + Hype Train, Excuse Wagons - Fantasy Football Podcast

I'm just as happy if not happier. So, yeah, maybe I pivot from my Josh Allen Keep and Brandon Cook's. Too late. You already kept him all the way. Fortunately, you are locked in. Oh, man. You already traded him. That's one thing we do say is that never update your opinions. Stay rock. Stay rock. Stay rock. Stay rock. You're not allowed to change. No, I will allow you to swap out your previous selection for Kinney Stills if you'd like.

You can take Kenny Stills if you prefer. Oh, man. You mean money? Kenny Bills? Oh, yeah. Counterfeit money. It is counterfeit money. Fake money. You know it's fake money. You know how much me and Jason love Kenny Stills. Yeah, I do. I do. You can go down with that counterfeit money in your pocket. I don't need it. All right. We're going to do one more key trade cut. Get into the mailbag. Answer some questions. Second round picks. Chris Godwin. Clyde Edwards Allaire.

Travis Kelsey. Kelsey, the consensus number one overall tight in. Hold on. Edward Zillard has already made it to the second. It's a problem. Yeah, that's a universal cut, cut, cut, I'm guessing from the three of us. And we all love Clyde Edward Delaer, but we're not drafting him in the second round. No. Because he's not, he's not coming. I mean, obviously, if you're going to have him, you're going to need to go get him and it looks like it's going to be in the second round. But he's not going to get off to the smoking hot start.

that everyone hopes, you know, just coming out week one and he has the workhorse back, that's most likely not going to happen. You know, it doesn't happen for a lot of players. You go back and look at, sure, there are a lot of rookie running backs that pop year one. But there are so many great running backs where when you go back and look at their rookie season, they were eased in. I mean, Christian McCaffrey was not a superstar in his rookie year, even though he was drafted as a top 10 pick.

So he's the easy cut here. And then it becomes Kelsey or Godwin? Who do you go? Because I have, man, I just love having Kelsey. I just. I'll just take Kelsey. He's my key. Love it. I know Chris Godwin's great. I don't want to take anything away from his 14 game run last year. Ended at wide receiver 2. Absolute beast. 86 for 1,3009. I'll take Kelsey. I'll take Kelsey because I think, you know, both of these guys are being drafted at their ceiling. And.

Kelsey has a longer run. I think Kelsey's ceiling is actually identical to his floor. Outside of injury. This plane that exists only for Travis Kelsey. Like it's a foot tall and when you lay down in it, you hit both at the same time. Yeah, he just resides there as the tight end one forever. Well, yeah, I mean, Travis Kelsey in 2016 was the tight end one.

In 2017, he was the tight-in-one. In 2018, he was the tight-in-one. And then last year, he got all the way up to number one. Okay. So he's on the best offense, in my opinion, in football and might be the number one target. So, yeah, I'm going to take Kelsey in the second. I've been doing it more and more in mock drafts and in other drafts. You know, in the aforementioned fantasy cares, I took, it's tight-in premium, but I took Travis Kelsey at the eighth pick in the first round.

Again, that is very tight in premium league. I wouldn't do that necessarily in a redraft. I will say that our producer, Judge Giamatti, is quite the step. Is dropping some knowledge because, look, sometimes you finish as the number one and you didn't really have the boom weeks. Just a reminder, Travis Kelsey did not really boom last year. No tight end one finishes in any specific week.

You're saying no finishes as the tight-end one. He was a tight-in one. He had no-week or he won the week. Almost every single week he was a tight-end one. And the thing is... And he finished number two three times. He just never, somehow he never ended up with the boom number one overall week. But he is a positional advantage week in and week out because what Travis Kelsey allows you to do...

is not only have him, for the majority of time, you keep more fab money or you keep your waiver priority. You're not having to play the streaming game. You're not having to cut people to make more room or ever have to carry a second tight end. So there's other advantages to having him on your roster. And unlike, you know, drafting the first quarterback off the board, you're not finding a 10th round tight end regularly.

You know, that year in and year out you could just bank, he's going to be great. That's a pretty good point about the way, you know, we talk about streaming quarterbacks and streaming tight ends. But when you're deciding, when it's razor thin on a decision in the second round, you know, like this one, and you think about having to invest fab dollars and waiver money on that tight end streaming option, that's an interesting thought there where you do conserve that. Let me formulate a situation for you. And of course, in a real draft, it may not.

play out perfectly like this. But let's say you take Kelsey in the second and you're able to come back and draft a wide receiver. Let's say you'd be looking at probably not Kenny Galladay. I don't think he's going to make it back to you, but you would be in ADP. It would be Mike Evans, Odell Beckham, Amari Cooper would be the next kind of wide receiver tier up? Or would you prefer taking Chris Godwin?

on that close to the turn and then getting George Kittle on the way back. If I could get Kittle, if I knew I'm going to get... If you can guarantee me Kettle, I'm probably cool with it. Yeah, I would... There's no guarantee it will work out for you. Just based off of... Gamble-wise... Based off this best ball ADP, that's some... That is a realistic scenario. And Brooks wants it known. He wants it officially declared that he would take Chris Gowan and would never draft the tight-in that early. All right.

It's officially known. I don't mind taking Kelsey there at all. Yeah. All right, let's do some mailbag. Mailbag. Do you feel the, I did feel the energy. I felt the lightning bolt. It didn't, it wasn't comfortable. I'm not going to pretend. It's not comfortable when you get struck by lightning, but you are full of a hype bolt, but we'll do that. It's very electric. It's electric.

All right, here's a question in a 12-team full PPR league from Kyle in Mount Vernon, Washington. He says, between the two, who would you keep? Nick Chub or Chris Godwin. Usually go with the running back, but having trouble with this one. PPR League, 12 team. Who do you keep? The PPR League makes it a lot easier for me to keep Chris Godwin over Nick Chub. Chubb is very difficult because he should be awesome. One,

As a running back in the league, he is awesome. Yeah, that's what I mean, like he's the top five running back in the league talent-wise. But he has a little bit of a nebulous situation around him, not that Chris Godwin doesn't with a new quarterback coming in. But full PPR makes it easier for me to just say, yeah, I'm going to take Chris Godwin. It's funny because full PPR made it harder for me because it made me lean towards Godwin. I would have.

thought I would take Chubb over Godwin. But Chubb is not a guy that's going to catch a lot of passes. You've got Cream Hunt there. And Chris Godwin, you know, should be in that conversation for getting near, you know, up in that triple digit reception. So, yeah, I lean Godwin in a full PPR. All right. Brad and Monterey says, fellas, I just bought the UDK and now I face a conundrum. My wife and I are in a league together. Do I mention that I have it? I think you all understand how this could be a.

problem. Yes. P.S. Bonjour. Oh, bonjour, Brad. Yeah. You're going to want to, you're going to want to lay your cards on the table here. That would be my recommendation. It's definitely most beneficial to us. Certainly. You've got to think about your relationship as well. That's what I mean. Well, actually, okay. Hold on. I guess it comes down to this for me. If you are, is your wife an active player?

Is she a fantasy football veteran? Then no, you do not need to share the UDK with her. If this is a situation where she's new and she's checking out your hobby, then yeah, you want her to have a good time and have success. So then you would share it. If she's a season vet and is playing unprotected without the UDK, then that's on her. We have more to lose if you keep it secret and she still whoops your butt.

Right? Like we, the UDK has more to lose. And that's, I'm, I'm interested in protecting you, obviously, but I'm, you know. See, I feel like what you do, if she is a vet and you're very competitive and she knows her stuff, you know, what you do is you wait until you whoop her in week one and go, I had the UDK sucker. And then, that's not bad. And then, yeah, there's many ways to start a marital fight. And that's just one.

There are so many ways. Yeah, I can attest to that. Instagram question. For keeper leagues, which draft picks are forfeited when selecting your keepers? That's not really one size fits all, but we can talk about it. Yeah, a lot of leagues, you know, I would say the majority of leagues are very clearly two. Two ways. You either...

Don't give up any pick. And it's just, you know, that's kind of how ours is. You keep X number of players, so it's always the best number, the best players that are kept. Or you keep where they were drafted. That's most common. So if you drafted a guy in the fifth round last year, you give up your fifth round pick this year. And usually those have an escalator where if you're going to keep them again, the following year, it goes up some number of rounds. Can I ask you guys a question, a follow up here? Sure. Someone reached out to me.

And I don't know how it's been done in leagues that you're in. Let's say, I'm trying to think of a player here. Let's say, I don't know, Alexander Madison got drafted in the 10th round last year by somebody. Then he's dropped a free agency. Then somebody else picks him up. Right. Does he carry his draft capital weight in the keeper equation or the free agency weight? Yeah, not to me. He does not to me. Once someone hits the waiver wire, they lose their draft eligibility. That's. And they turn it then into a,

a free agent acquisition. And to me, that is if you're going to keep, if you're paying a draft price for free agents, I'm looking at ADP. Now, someone like Alexander Madison, by the time drafts roll around, that still could be an incredible deal for you, depending on which way that Minnesota scenario goes. But I don't like players like O'Dell Beckham, Nick Chubb.

It happens every single year that someone goes off of the waiver wire and they turn into an elite fantasy player and now someone gets to keep Odell Beckham.

For free. For free in the 14th round or whatever. I know you guys don't like that. That's just not fair to me. I at least want to reward. No, because you're rewarding the draft. That's the thing is you're rewarding good drafting. The whole point to me of these keeper selections where you've got a, you know, you get to pick a guy. You decided that. That doesn't mean it's true. You're not reward. You're rewarding the team. If you make a great free agent acquisition, that's just as valuable as a great draft pick. But is it not? No. What, what, when do you?

When does this apply? This applies in the draft. This affects your draft. So to me, I feel like it's the – you're saying because we did such a bad job and nobody drafted O'Dell Beckham, then I get a great – But you didn't do a bad job. You spent your fab on him and you made a great acquisition. You identified him and you selected him and it's a keeper league. Maybe or – And the totality of your team. Maybe or you – I'm not saying it has to be the free agent last round pick. Or you – I'm fine given a two –

What do you mean you suck? Well, because a lot of... You didn't suck to pick him up. Oh, absolutely. A lot of leagues are waiver priority systems. So I was just the worst team out there. So penalized in a couple rounds. I got him for free because I got him first. I didn't spin the most fab and see it coming. Even you don't understand your opinion there. You hear that's... What? That's you. I am on the... They are at ADP and then if you want to take a couple rounds off of it? A round or even to...

Then I am okay with that, but you have to start, you have to start it at average draft position. Camp keep free agents. That's my position always will be. It's a terrible position. Anyways, look, the truth of the matter is, regardless of our opinions, leagues do it in all of these forms. Yes. It's up to your league. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, do it. And they're all fun. They are all fun. Even the ones with bad rules are fun. Yeah.

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