Keep/Trade/Cut + Hype Train, Excuse Wagons - Fantasy Football Podcast

a steal of a value to me. It is because, you know, I'm in on that. Yeah, I mean, when you're the 12th drafted tight end, it's obviously super different than being the 12th drafted, you know, running back. You're talking about the last tight end starter being taken, so you can wait as long as you want for the most part. And he, he checks a lot of the boxes for the late round high upside guy. He was my favorite tied in that season coming out.

I really loved him. He was drafted in the first round, so I was hyped, and then Mark Andrews took over on that team, but the opportunity is in front of him. He is very fast for his size. You know, he's 250 pounds and fast, used in that Austin Hooper roll. He could have a very capable breakout year this year, and my dynasty team would thank him.

You're going to adjust your rankings based on this specific news blur? No, no. I've got him, I think, ranked where I believe he'll finish. But, you know, as we'll talk about and keep trade cut, there's a difference. And this is why you listen to the show. And this is why you get the ultimate draft kit where we've got, you know, detailed blurbs and write-ups on every player. Linear rankings aren't usually enough. You could say, well, I've got this guy behind this guy. But in a certain draft, I would take the guy that's behind because of risk factors or upside factors or things like that.

for Hayden Hurst is far ahead of where I have him, you know, ranked on probability. Okay. I think that does it for news, unless you guys have anything else you want to discuss. Nope. No hype, Mike, no additional hype. Nope, not yet. Okay, let me know. That's the thing is you'll never know. You'll only know because you'll just hit it. Because the hype of the room will explode. We'll feel it in the air? Yes. Okay. Let's do some keep trade cut. Trade cut.

I will say like, you know, it could be like the hair on your arms. That would be the only feeling you would get, which I've heard that is a... Yeah, what is the scientific basis for that? Spider senses. That's my... Yeah, spider senses. It's a static electricity? It's also, I think something that happens right before a human is actually struck. Oh, by lightning. By lightning, all of a sudden you'll feel your hair starting to lift up because the charge is coming down. It's very similar to hype because I'm getting hit with hype.

Similar to lightning. It's very similar to a lightning bolt. I'm so illuminated right now. Look, I'm here for all of the hype education. All right, we're going to do some keep trade cut. I was laughing over here because Brooks put in our show doc. He said, he wrote this, a fun game of keep trade cut. Oh, it's a fun game. We're going to play a fun game. All right, fourth round wide receiver, keep trade cut, Adam Thielen, J.J. Brown. All of these guys very, very similarly ranked.

In our consensus rankings, they're back to back to back, the fourth round wide outs. What do you think? What do you think? Man, it's tough because I currently have Juju ranked as my wide receiver 12, but right behind him is Adam Thielen. And this is the fourth round. Okay, so I've got to think through my draft. You know, I am either looking at my wide receiver two or even my wide receiver three. So at that point,

Do I go? Adam Thielen feels like a safer pick to me. Just because you don't have the- Is that because Juju finished as the wide receiver 66 last year, Mike? It may have something to do with that. Where did Thielen finish? No comment. He didn't have a great finish either. No, no. But they were both hurt. Juju had the quarterback problem as well. But taking an account the variables of risk, I think.

I would probably go Adam Thielen there as my keep. And monitoring what's going on with Dalvin Cook, because like I mentioned, Adam Thielen's stock could increase dramatically. My trade would have to be A.J. Brown because one hype man to another hype man. That guy has some excellent representation in the hype community. If people are all about A.J. Brown. If you are not.

Keeping A.J. Brown, you must use him as your trade because he can't be the cut. His value is to some people so far beyond. There are plenty of people listening going, well, the keep is clearly A.J. Brown. Like, that's 100% because his upside is tremendous. He's the number one. He's, so he is my auto trade here because I'm not going to keep him. I think that the ceiling.

If you're just talking about upside, I think the highest is juju still. Because you just look at the volume, right? Two years ago, we talked about on the buyer sell segment, J. Schuster had over 100 receptions. You know, in A.J. Brown, I expect him to get better this year, and he was great last year. But I think you only had 52 receptions. So, you know, the upside is with the guy who's going to have, you know.

twice as many or, you know, half as many again receptions. I'm going with juju as my keep. I think in the fourth round is where I'm willing to take him. Because like Mike said, that's at least my second wide receiver, presumably. And I'm not taking juju as my number one anymore. Obviously a lot of risk, Big Ben's health. Some people are in on Deontay Johnson. Deonti Johnson is this year's Curtis Samuel.

So, you know, I still believe in Juju. I'm rising on Thielen, but I will cut him because the trade value of A.J. Brown is astronomical. I just like that part of the argument was throwing in a little dig at Deontay Johnson. Yeah. We ride the excuse mobile for Juju Smith-Schuster. I mean, even in our doc here, 50% of Juju's targets had accurate ball placement in 2019, down from 61% the previous two years.

Well, it's pretty bad. It's pretty bad. Deonti Johnson was still more productive. Both of the players starting. What is your excuse? You don't have to hate somebody. But what's your excuse wagon for him? To like juju bouncing back. Being a, you know, a wide receiver one before that. There's no excuse wagon. Oh, okay.

So I'm not riding the excuse wagon then. But when you say sealing, that season that he had 166 targets that he played with Big Ben over 5,000 yards, that he played with Antonio Brown, he still finishes the wide receiver 9. So he wasn't, the ceiling wasn't much higher than the projection that you have for him. That's not necessarily the ceiling because how many touchdowns did he have? I think he had seven or eight, something like that.

I remember he had a low touchdown. Listen, if Juju has more receptions than everybody, more touchdowns than everybody, he's going to be pretty good. He will have more fantasy points. So anyway, everything devolves into a juju argument. I don't know why. AJ Brown, you're 100% right in that contention. He's the trade. No doubt about it. Number one in yards per reception. Number one in yards after the catch last year. No disrespect to AJ Brown, but the hype is out of control. I was curious. I'll go keep feeling trade AJ Brown, cut juju.

But I am curious if this question pivots because of what Mike said with safety. If your fourth round pick, you know, if that's your wide receiver one or two, does it change unless you went wide receiver early? Are you looking for the upside of AJ Brown because you have two previous wide receivers or something? So it does change. I mean, look, AJ Brown has an extremely high ceiling here, just like Juju does.

To me, it changes. Like, let's say I go in on Travis Kelsey, which I am prone to do. Sure. If I did that, then I would probably draft Adam Thielen here for a little bit safer route. Yeah. You know, but otherwise, otherwise, I see J.J. Brown's ceiling is higher than A.J. Brown's. If you see A.J. Brown's ceiling is higher, then that's the way you would go. Don't pretend you can see his ceiling.

You can't see it. It's so high up there. You can't see that ceiling. I'm so happy to hear you talk like that about juju. If you let a balloon go in that room, you're not going to be able to see it. Juju's on the peloton in the, like the aviary. Just geodesic dome. You're trying to get a sponsorship here, Mike? Heck yeah. I'm trying to get a Peloton at your door. I need it. All right. Before we move on to our next keep trade cut.

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Didn't make the show. Could have easily made the show. Yes. Zach Ertz, I mean, stable. Stable is kind of, I think what we all look at him as. He's our consensus tied in five. But you're sitting in the fifth round, keep trade cut between these three fantasy players. If I could, if you could understand, there is a running back that has been a top 12 running back, four of the last.

five years and and the only one he wasn't it was because he missed four games and he's the lead running back for one of the two best running teams in the league and was top 10 last year and you can have him in the fifth round i mean mark ingram is my keep here he he's a guy that every year i mean

2015, he's the running back 12, 2016, the running back 9, 2017, the running back 6. The following year, there were always reasons. Ah, he's, he's in a committee. He's got to be super efficient. He's, you know, he's getting older, whatever. It's like, there's always a reason that he's going to not perform, and he drops in drafts. And I love scooping him up. I've enjoyed having him on my rosters for several years, and I will enjoy it this year. So he's my key. I feel like you are falling in love. Look.