NFC South Breakdown, Stack Attack, RoJo

No, you're definitely not getting value based on your performance last year. Newton a round later, Cousins two rounds later, Luck two rounds later, and then Stafford Rivers Ryan, you can draft three rounds later. Yeah, I mean, the reality is this. Drew Breeze right now is being drafted as a fifth quarterback off the board, and that is his ceiling. Now,

He's had many years above the number five. Five is his ceiling? Five is his ceiling in 2018. That's nonsense. At 39 years old with this good defense, he is not, I mean, I would easily water bet that he will not be a top four quarterback this year. Oh, you just change from five to four. No, I'm saying he top five is his ceiling. He can get to five. He's not going to be ahead of five. Tom Brady was 40 last year. Yes. So the age argument. Yeah, make it against me. But that's very different. Mike, are you willing to go?

Top five? Yes, because it's Drew Breeze. So, Jason, are you on board with that? No, I suggested it. Waterbed. This will give Brooks a chance to use the new Waterbet video graphic on the YouTube channel. So, I mean, really, you guys have done a service to the world. Very nice. Yeah, I mean, look, Drew Breeze, he finished as a quarterback 12, you know, he was a quarterback won this past season. That's great. And I do expect he will have more touchdowns this year than last year.

but he also only had four weeks the whole season. There's 16 games. He only had four weeks where he was actually in the top 12 during that week. He destroyed you last year. He just didn't need to have those big games, and I don't think he's going to need to have them this year. I'm not leaving the Saints. We're going to stay here. We're going to talk about Alvin Camara and expectations. We're going to talk about Cameron Meredith, but we're going to press a quick pause button to thank Pristine Auction for supporting this.

podcast pristine auction is the best place to get autographed sports memorabilia i get a message this is not a lie this is not a line i get a message pretty much every day every other day from somebody who thanks me yesterday for letting them know about pristine auction yesterday i had posted on reddit somebody replied to my thread on reddit completely unrelated to the thread and just said

I just got a Kenan Allen jersey for $63. Thank you so much for telling me about pristine auction. People don't understand. We have an Alvin Camara jersey signed. Authentic jersey on the wall, an authentic signature, pristine auction. We get a deal. Todd Gurley, signed photo yesterday, $43. Josh Gordon, signed photo, $37. Corey Davis, signed jersey, went for $40. That is asinine. That's crazy. And these are all JSA, authentic signatures.

You've got to check them out, pristineauction.com, longtime partner of the show. Yeah, and look, another really important partner that we are very close with is fantasy champs. And here's why it's important. Because you're listening to the show, and you're going to be a fantasy champ. Your league needs awesome trophies, and there is a gold standard, and that's fantasy champs. If you look at the trophies, if you inspect the trophies that we have, you know, in our set that we use in our league,

They're truly the best trophies that are out there. I love their gold trophy, their perennial gold trophy. I think that is my personal favorite. You've got to check them out. If you use the promo code, ballers, you can save 10%. But this is the time of the year where you get your league ready. You get that perennial trophy. You get it displayed at your draft. You can get custom fantasy football jerseys to wear at your draft. You can get the best.

fantasy draft board if you want to have if you're doing a live draft it's all at fantasy champs you're a fantasy champ go to fantasy champs dot com and improve your lead yeah i mean the swag of fantasy football is kind of just connected to the game of fantasy football right so we it's important that that partner is right i don't know why our listeners i'm i should be at all times wearing all my fantasy champ rings i you know during the show sure

I got to start doing that. Sure. All right. Let's talk about Alvin Camara. Oh, Super Camario. Last year, the invincibility star. It was on all season, pretty much. Except one game. Yeah, you're talking about the concussion? Yeah. Well, he was not invincible that week. No, that week the star went off. He got hit by a cup a shell, and he went down early in the game. But Alvin Camara, I think people are on every.

Well, there's two thoughts, right? He is this. He is great. He's got Mark Ingram missing the first four games. There's no reason why he can't be dominant. And then there's the regression fears. There's the health fears. What do we really have? People brought up C.J. Spiller's Monster's season. You don't get the opportunity. You don't get to look at Alvin Camara and go, what do you do over the last five years? You get to say, what did he do last year? So Alvin Camara is the ceiling?

For 2018, the number one overall running back, Mike. Is that a possibility for Alvin Camara? I would say no. Really? Yeah. I don't think, I don't think Camara, even with, I believe it will get an uptick and volume, but even with that, I am on the side that we haven't, we've seen so few seasons. Is this the best season he ever has? Probably. You think so? Yeah. His 81, 81 reception. It was outrageous. But only 120 carries.

Right, but what's his yards per carry? 6.5. What's his yards per reception? I'm sorry, 6.1 yards per carry, 10.2 yards per reception. That'll stay. 81 receptions for 1,000 yards is very, very, very in the cards for Alvin Camero. He is very, very possible. But over six yards of carry, he's an incredible talent. I just am not going to put my chips.

on someone repeating that or coming anywhere close to that. We've seen that would be Jamal Charles. You'd be putting your chips on him being Jamal Charles. And could he be Jamal Charles? Sure. But there's only been one Jamal Charles. Yes. So that's why I don't think top one is available to him when Gurley and Levy on Bell. What about bottom one? Bottom one? It's a good point, Andy.

I mean, you said he couldn't be top one. I want to know if he could be bottom one, maybe middle one. Those he could be, certainly, if my argument against him being at the top is accurate. You got to lean in. Yes. For what it's worth, I agree with Mike. I don't see the, you know, finishing in the, as the number one running back in the cards for Alvin Camara. He is, I expect him to have a great year. I really do. And the reason I expect him to have a great year is because.

of the saints because of the system, because of Sean Peyton and Drew Brie's. They use the running back so well. It's not just that they use them a lot in the passing game. They scheme so well for the running back. So I think he will succeed. But at the same time, he's my scariest first round running back. I think I've come to that place where I just, even when my rankings say he's the next guy up, I'm going with the volume of the guy a little bit down in my rankings over.

the hope that Alvin Camara is as efficient or close to as efficient as he was last year. Whenever you've got a guy who had 120 carries last year. Now, he had 120 carries, but those first three weeks or so before the buy and they traded Adrian Peterson away, he was very uninvolved. If you take away the first two games and you look at his 16 game pace from that point on, it would be 128. They start the season, the four non-ingrum games.

the Buccaneers at home, the Browns at home. So as in the Saints are at home in both those games. Then they play the Falcons and Giants. Even if you believe that it's unsustainable, isn't he going to dominate for four weeks? Can you trade him at that point? I wouldn't trade him. If he's dominating for four games, I don't think there's any way. Well, with Ingram coming back, if you say that you don't believe the – I mean, the volume's going to be there for four weeks, is it not? Well, I don't expect it to be an outrageous swing.

I think Terrence West is going to get on the field. Cameron Meredith is undrafted. Do you want him? Yes. Yes. And it's a Brandon Coleman type of thing that they were able to waive him, and maybe they'll bring him back. But I think that they believe that Cameron Meredith is ready. For Michael Thomas, this Michael Thomas is one of the reasons why I believe that Drew Brees will return. Michael Thomas, Thomas went from nine touchdowns to five touchdowns. And that was not because of opportunity. He had.

More targets. He had more receptions. He had more targets in the red zone. He had more targets in the 10 zone. The touchdowns just didn't go. Drew Brees way. And I have been on record that I love Michael Thomas very, very much as an elite level wide receiver this season. Panthers. Let's talk about the Carolina Panthers. They were 11 and 5 last year. Cam Newton.

I've been pretty vocal about Cam Newton this year. I think he's the best combination of upside and value in fantasy drafts. Seventh round quarterback right now with number one quarterback potential. He has a new weapon in DJ Moore, wide receiver, and he has a weapon that ascended over the course of last season in Christian McCaffrey. Gets Greg Olson back? Gets Greg Olson back. He didn't have him last year, and Cam Newton was still.

A dominant force for fantasy football owners. He ran the ball. Lions going to roar, and he roared. Now, he's going to be my guy for me again this year. So Cam Newton, I'm locked and loaded. I think he's that best value. But I want to hear you guys weigh in on this team. They were the fourth best offensive, or I'm sorry, rushing team last year, 131 yards per game. They were 28th in passing yards per game. So Cam Newton and company expectations for this team. Where are the fantasy values?

You know, they lose Andrew Norwell on the offensive line. We cannot underestimate the loss. And if you do want to underestimate it, go talk to Andy Dalton. And we've been talking about pro football focus and their rankings. Last year, the Panthers ended as the 10th best offensive line. Coming into the season, they have them at 21. So they are factoring in the loss of Norwell by a large amount. I'll start with the value because...

That's what you, the word I was here. Even with the offensive line, getting the massive downgrade, the value of this team is still C.J. Anderson. And for me, that's because Jonathan Stewart has moved on. He is now a New York giant. But he still received a ton of work, a frustrating amount of work for Christian McCaffrey owners. He, I mean, he had, he had 206 touches.

on the year, which was 198 carries. So I expect C.J. Anderson up close to that 200 carry mark. Now, can he do something with it? That's the question. But finding, you're not hype training him, but I'm just, there's been a lot of talk, 25, 30 touches for Christian McCaffrey, Mike. Yes. And Christian McCaffrey getting 30 touches a game.

It would be a tremendous mistake. You would be not utilizing Christian McCaffrey to his fullest to overwork him like that. So I expect C.J. Anderson up near 200 carries for a running back that you are drafting. Where is he currently going? Does anyone have that in front of them? I do not. I've got it. Back of the eighth round. So back of the eighth, early ninth, a running back that, in my opinion, is.

nearly guaranteed over 170 carries. Those guys don't exist in that range. And the reason he is there, one, people just don't like C.J. Anderson. I understand it. But he was a thousand-yard rusher last year. One of nine only. And he was also near the league lead in yards after contact. Once they gave C.J. Anderson the ball over the second half of the season.

He proved once again that he is a good running back in this league, and people are so caught up in the Christian McCaffrey hype train that they are letting C.J. Anderson fall to the back of the eighth round, tremendous value. Yeah, I agree that C.J. Anderson is a value. For where he's being drafted, if he doesn't pan out, that's fine. If he does pan out, you're going to have a really good value. He is so...

far and away superior to what Jonathan Stewart was last year. And when we talk about Christian McCaffrey, you know, there's all this upside hopeful he's going to get more carries. There's a lot of reasons also to worry about him, right? DJ Moore, Greg Olson. Are they going to take some of those valuable targets away from Christian McCaffrey when he was so heavily targeted last year? The fact that Jonathan Stewart has been upgraded into C.J. Anderson this year. Now, I said all that to basically say, I am actually a believer.

If I had to put my odds on, I believe that Christian McCaffrey will be used as a workhorseback. I don't know that they should, but when I go back, North Turner, you know, we always look into the offensive coordinators and the systems and, you know, try to put everything into proper context. When you have a guy with over 20 years with, you know,