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Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - Week 7 Fantasy Forecast, Starts of the Week, TNF Preview, News

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I see no reason why having no Harvin and no Watkins doesn't lend itself to McCoy just getting more targets by default. And this is a personal note to coach Rex Ryan. If I see another run option of E.J. Manuel stealing a LaShawn McCoy touchdown, I'm going to lose my mind. Well, you know, you will, but they'll be okay with it. I know. I'm just letting him know that my personal health is on the line. Sure.

26:57 ↗

And sure, maybe you care about winning. You'll lose the rest of your mind. Oh, I want to win football games. My mental health is on the line. If you run another E.J. manual run option like that. Did you, so we said Harvin's out, but did you, have you guys been following this? No. He is out for, as Rex Ryan said, personal reasons. He did not travel for personal reasons. He is reportedly very, very frustrated.

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with the injuries that he suffered. And there was even some false reports that he was considering retirement due to the hip injury kind of recurring it. So, you know, it seems like there's something going on beyond the injuries with the team too because Rex Ryan basically just said, yeah, he's not here.

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That's interesting. That's not good. That's not good. It's not good, but it's pretty par for the course. Yeah. Regarding E.J. Manuel, I did all my quarterback stats this last, yesterday. You know, we projected a little bit early in the week going on stream of the week. The rankings are up. But the rankings are completely up now. And I actually have E.J. Manuel. I believe I've got him at like nine. I've got him as a QB1. What? Yeah.

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Really? Yeah, that's just how the stats fall. Just because of Jacksonville? Yeah, Jacksonville is a juicy matchup here. I expect a decent score in this game. I know that Vegas has it a little bit lower. This is one of those games, just like last week, Vegas had one of those games really low that ended up high scoring than I thought was going to be higher scoring. This is another one of those. The Jags Bills.

28:25 ↗

Pretty much, I feel like every week Jacksonville gets a low line and they're putting up points. So, well, you know, coming from the guy who streamed Brian Hoyle last week, this doesn't surprise me. Well, I was going to say you should change your official stream of the week to E.J. Manuel then. Yeah, that's where you have him ranked above Landry. Because E.J. Manuel is actually ranked above Landry and. Well, and Landry's probably not going to play now. Exactly. So I would say. Is that an official change? I don't have a button for that, but. Official change of the week.

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Yeah, I'll say E.J. Manuel's my guy right now. That'll cost you $8. But again, available. To change your stream after that. Available in 100% of the league. So I'm still staying right at the bottom. Okay. How does this affect Charles Clay? Charles Clay has to have a good week here. Jacksonville hasn't been that great against the tight end. You don't have a lot of other weapons. You've got Robert Woods, who I think, as well as you do, is a good player. You got Hollywood. Do you want to know where I have Robert Woods this week?

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Do I? You probably don't. Oh, man. You probably don't. I want to hear it. I think I had him pretty high too. Well, I have to scroll down because you guys probably yanked him all the way down the list. Let me see what he is. Whoa. Whoa. Let me put it. Let me put it this way. I have him 19. I have him 19. Here's what I say. And I'm almost double-handed. He can't, he has, he's in number 10 right now. Whoa.

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Which is too high, which is too high. But I think he's a two this week. I didn't realize that's the thing. When we do our stats, we literally, we're going through. We're playing game by game. We're putting the stats into a database and then we just are copy-pacing the list. So we're not like saying, oh, this guy is my 10, so I want to line him up at 10. He'll drop a little bit for me. I think he has a two, a startable two this week. Jacksonville's defense is porous. It is Swiss cheese. It is easy to dissect. I don't have a problem with him as a two. And to join him with that,

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If you are a desperate person in need, I honestly don't mind playing Chris Hogan. Chris Hogan had a great stretch run, I think last year of three or four games where he was very fantasy relevant. And he's a guy who can succeed if he gets the targets. He was three for 52 and a touchdown two weeks ago.

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In that final drive. Are we talking Woods or Hogan? No, Hogan. Okay. Hogan. And Robert Woods had, I believe, six targets last week. Robert Woods is a really good player. And that's... Four for 47 last week. Yeah, he was drafted. What was he? Second round pick. Yeah, he's a second round pick last year, right? No. No. A year before? No. Yeah. Way back in 2013.

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So the Jacksonville wide receivers, I like both of them. I like Hurons and Robinson. Robinson's injury, it doesn't seem to be any kind of a concern right now. And Julius Thomas is, he's an okay quarterback. I think you're starting Clay and he's a quarterback. Julius Thomas is a quarterback now? I think he's a terrible quarterback. All right, the Browns face the Rams. The Rams are coming off the by and they're at home and Gurley is going to run.

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and he's going to run well, and I really wish he was on more of my teams. Yeah, I completely agree with that assessment. You wish he was on more of Andy's teams? Yep. That's weird. That's great. You really love Andy. All right, so let's talk about the Travis Benjamin effect that is taking place. He is being targeted consistently. He is a wide receiver one right now in almost every scoring format. Let me give you his numbers last week. Nine for 117.

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That's good. He hasn't scored in three weeks, but, I mean, six, six, nine. I like when a guy is not scoring and putting up a lot of targets and receptions because you know the touchdowns are going to come if you're being utilized in the offense. I know we were kind of down on Benjamin at the beginning of the year, right? He was only catching. Because he was getting three targets a game. Yeah, three targets a game. And we saw the beginning of last year, him do the same thing and then trail off into nowhere land. Travis, Benjamin, or Dante Moncrief this week.

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I think old, man. Who do the Colts? The Colts take on the Saints. I'm definitely taking Moncrief just because of the matchup. Travis Benjamin or Stefan Diggs this week? Benjamin. I'm going to go Benjamin. Charles Johnson, I think, is going to be back. Yeah, Diggs is a, we love the upside, but he's still got a lot of question marks. Travis Benjamin or Michael Crabtree. Ooh. I don't, the Raiders don't have the greatest match. They're playing the Chargers. Yeah, I love the Chargers past East, so I'm going Travis Benjamin. All right. That works. Barnage.

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I heard another nickname. Oh, another one. I can throw one out there. The quest for Gary Barnage nickname. Big Rig Barnage. Because he's always hauling in them touchdowns. Yeah, I'm with my... Okay. Yeah. Sorry. Maximum Barnage still. I liked it. I didn't think it was necessarily the winner. But I liked it. It's not... Jason, Carnage Barnage is just... That's just too easy. No, no, no, maximum barnage. Oh, yeah, that's still the winner. You're right. All right.

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Anybody else in this game that is worth discussing? Is there a running back on the Browns? If you had to start one, who is it? Who is it? It's Duke. Yeah, it's got to be Duke. I have Crowell in a lineup. That shows how bad my bye weeks are right now. Yeah, that's terrible. You're a terrible player. You're awful. I like the Rams D a lot this week at home against the Browns. See, and I like the Browns D. I know. I think both of them are acceptable. Yeah. I think you like the Browns D because of the...

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St. Louis offense, and you like the Rams D because of the Rams D. Yeah, but here's the thing about for the Rams D. And they're at home. Josh McCown, uh, Josh McCown is getting it done. And he got it done decently well against the Denver defense. He had a pair of touchdowns. Now he had a, he had some pick six, which if the Rams can do that, of course you're, you're in a very good position. But in one of our leagues where I've been holding out hope for, for Tyrod Taylor.

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to finally come back, and we have a shorter bench in that league. I have gone full, don't care, and I'm riding Josh McCowne in that league. Because I'm getting in on this action. That's not the listener league, is it? No. I don't mind that play. When I was statting McCown and looking back, it really truly came down to a question of, is McCown for real with what he's been doing this year?

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or was it those matchups? And I kind of leaned more towards the matchups, but I had a tough decision going, because I looked at this, and this is a tough D to pass against, but McCown has just been fantastic. So I hear you there, and if he does well against the Rams, you got to add him. He's going to be close to, you know, and Andy Dalton, just if he were to put up, you know, 302 against the Rams, that'd be awesome. All right, all right. Let's move it on to the Lions.

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in joick bell against the vikings against the viking is joick bell really playing the vikings are of course he's playing he practiced in full all week there's a reason people are buying him i know that i don't understand a reason to buy joick bell i do zach zinner's gone abdula puts it on the turf

35:43 ↗

Theoretic gets very few carries. Joyke Bell has a chance at 15 carries this week. That's the reason. That's the reason. Actually makes a big difference to me mentally because there's nobody behind Joyke Bell that can get those tough yards, those short yardage. You have to use him. And I agree he could get usage. He's going to be the goal line type of back. I will bet anybody in this room that Joyc Bell will not have more than 50 yards on the ground. I...

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What am I doing? Oh, that was a sucker bet. That was a pure Marty McFly. Like, you challenged me. I hit the button and then I think about it. Oh, man. I just, that's great because then I can root for it. I mean, it's, it fits the preseason just fine. I was in the middle of saying I would never take that bet when he hit that button. That bet is so bad. I mean, I'm actually going to take the water for it this afternoon. That's ridiculous. All right. I cannot wait to.

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Oh, if I win this, though, it'll be great. We need to have one of the, on the water wheel app, we need to have one of those where it's like the person getting wet has to just dump the water right on their own head. There should be one. By the way, that app is so close. It should, we just got to push it live. It's almost there. Doing it live! There was some changes to the Iowa store. Yeah, I know. We're getting it there. All right. So the wide receivers in the, well, never mind. Let's stay with the running backs for a second. Joyick Bell, Abdullah, Riddick.

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Right now, fantasy-wise Riddick would be the only guy I would flex in an emergency. I agree. AP, is he going to do better than 26? AP destroys the Lions. That's good. I'm facing him in that league. Yeah, good luck. He destroys the Lions. Is Matt Stafford, you know, he had a big week. Is he playable this week against Minnesota in Minnesota? He's all right. I think I've got him about a... You got a by week going on? If you got Dalton on by, would you play Stafford?

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Sure. Yeah, I think I've got him at 12 or somewhere right around there where he's on the cusp of him or would you play Ryan Fitzpatrick at New England? I think I'd play Stafford. Yeah, I think I would go, man. New England gets up. New England's 24th against quarterbacks. I think I might go Fitzpatrick there. I was just curious. I have them. But I don't mind at all. If you feel like your team really needs some upside this week.

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Stafford's a great play. But the Vikings do have a very solid defense, and they're at home and their favorites. Yeah. All right. So, you know, there are a lot of guys that could be started at the wide receiver position across both teams. You know, Calvin Johnson, Golden Tate, Wallace, people like Wallace, and Stefan Diggs. Yeah. I have Diggs very high this week. Really? Yeah, I do. I think... Even with...

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Even with Charles Johnson's set to come back. Yes, I do. I do. The quantity of targets and the production on those targets and his after the catch to me. I'm riding Stefan Diggs right now. I don't think it's really going to slow down. Yeah, we all have him in, you know, I think you've got him 30, Mike. So, you know, wide receiver 3. I've got him 25. Still 3, but on the cusp of 2. It's hard for me, though, if he's on my roster.

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to, unless there's a need. If I can start someone else over him, I'm probably, I just want him on my roster and hold on, because you have no idea. You could go out there and Charles Johnson could split the, you know, snaps with him half and then you got nothing. I don't think it's going to matter. And it might not, but I would rather, I would rather wait the week and find out whether. No, that's fine. Where it matters is when they're in two wide sets if Stefan Diggs is not even on the field. That's where it really matters. And that's the question mark.

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I think personally that Stefan Diggs will be on the field in too wide. But even just my opinion in thinking that, I don't know if I'm confident enough in that to say whatever, he's going out there when his snap percentage true. Stefan Diggs, Robert Woods. Woods. Yeah, I'd rather. Because you know he'll be out there. Woods is the number one for his team this week. All right, the Texans at Miami. Do you buy into Miami?

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