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Week 8 Waivers & Streamers + Jason’s Soul Melts | Fantasy Football 2025 - Ep. 1829

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Waiver episode built around Jason's exaggerated emotional collapse and the ordinary waiver wire as a horror scene.

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Detroit. Right. So Monungai is kind of the David Montgomery to the Gibbs of Swift. And it makes, I'm sorry. Okay. All right. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Um, personally, I think I personally, I think I might be more Breshard Smith over Monongi. Okay. Just because. of the offenses, right? Like, what do you believe? Yes. So what do you believe about the bears who've won four in a row? They're looking better. They come out of the by hot. I like that. There's a potential that they're a good offense. But Kansas City Chiefs have been on fire. They've got Rushie Rice back. They've got their best weapons they've had since Tyreek was on top of his game. And all of a sudden, the Chiefs look unstoppable.

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So you expect them to score a ton of points, have goal-in opportunities, and all of a sudden- Did you see Kareem Hans carries? Yes. Seven, six, four, the last three weeks. He went down to- He got banged up. He got banged up, I believe. He got banged up, but he was down to like 19% of snaps. Is that right? Do you have that in- Well, yeah, it's 19% the previous two weeks, 30 and 33. It's been going down. But here's a thing. You go, oh, well, he got, he got banged up, and maybe that's why. Because if you look at Breschard Smith's, you know, snaps and opportunities, this is a rookie this year, a seventh-round rookie pick, which.

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Pacheco was as well. As was Menangai. Yeah. He went up. It's the year of the seventh rounder. He's been down at like 9% snap share, Burchard Smith has been. All of a sudden he went up to 35%. He had 14 rushing attempts this game. He had five targets. They are getting him involved. Four of the five were in the first half too. Right. So this way, I mean, I think that this is a rookie who looks better. Got juice. Kareem Hunt. Thank you so much for your service. You have been a great teammate. You have done a lot for Kansas City. We are done with your services. That's what it feels like. It feels like now we can transition to the rookie. He's getting more involved. And not only is this Kareem Hunt, right? Like if it was just Kareem Hunt where it's like, okay, well, he goes down to 19%. Maybe he takes over that role. He's doing that, you know, Jerich McKinnon role from the past. But Isaiah Pacheco, he's been up at like, he was playing 77% last week.

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He was down to 56%. The best player I test-wise to me on that team is Breschard Smith. So Menungi and Breschard Smith, those are the two pickups for me running back this week. Yeah, and then other players to pay attention to, like, I know you're not going to like it, but Bam Knight had 17 opportunities for Arizona. They're going into the buy. So you could sneak him onto your roster, probably very cheap. And he's, and Trey Benson still has. He's got time. Multiple weeks that he will be gone. Yeah, I mean, the opportunities, 13 and 18 in the last two weeks, you could do worse at running back than that. And then if Brees Hall gets traded, make sure Isaiah Davis is on your roster. So the trade deadline for the NFL is Tuesday, November 4th. Okay. This would be the time to stash. We are, whatever, two weeks from that then? Two weeks. And if you need a spot start, it's gross. You're not going to feel good about it. I'm talking like bypocalypse. You've got to throw someone into the lineup off of waivers. Tyler Algier.

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in certain games gets enough work, gets a goal line opportunity here or there, and they play Miami. So it's just like a one week, you know, opportunity. I wouldn't ever call him an insurance back because, as I've stated many times, 2025 Bejan Robinson is indestructible. He cannot be injured. Speaking of injury with the injury to Kendrae Miller, Devon Neal, he's the rookie. I know both Mike and I really liked the film. He was an interesting player. And so he's the next man up there behind Alvin Camara, should Camara miss time. Drop candidates this week, Bayshall Tootin? Only five opportunities each the last four games. I think this is the type of week where he's going to be, yeah, you're probably going to have to drop him if you need spots with buys. The unfortunate Tales, Trayvion Henderson, coming off his three worst games of the year. Man. I mean, I...

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Trayvion Henderson is 100% dropable. This isn't, you have to drop him. This isn't if he's on waivers. You shouldn't pick him up. Maybe, maybe a stash. He's a talented player. But yeah, I mean, he's 100% dropable. He's irrelevant right now. He's not involved in the team's games. He's a high enough draft capital pick with enough talent and ability to where if Ramandre was to get hurt, Trayvion's opportunity would be forced, I think. Vrable would never. So those kind of guys you kind of hang on to. Yeah. If he was on waivers right now, I'd pick him up. I would pick him up. Yeah, I would too. Bill Crosky, no, you don't cut Bill. That doesn't feel like the right. No, Bill. We need like a sad version of that. We need to look up like a sad. Bill, Bill, Bill. Yeah, we'll find something there, get on that, producers. But, yeah, I mean, you can't drop a guy, even though he's been very ineffective. We need that version. Give me the O.

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Oh, Billy. Oh, yes. Oh, Billy. 14 rushing a tips, 17 rushing a tips. We've had quite a few sad drops for players where we have happy drops. Yeah, you put that thing away, though. There's no sadness with Pittman. Oh, Michael Pittman's doing work. Good. Wide receiver waiver wire pickups, we mentioned him last week, Alec Pierce. Just 14% rostered. Went five for 98. And he didn't even score and he definitely is going to score in this offense with Daniel Jones. I love Alec Pierce. I think you can play him again. Kashon Booty looking good. Rocking everywhere. Two targets. He is a bit of a, he's not quite Jamo on the seven shooter, but he is a little scary because, you know, week to week. Somebody else can get the job done. It was.

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Two targets. Yeah, it's, it's tough. And Diggs, while I've been talking about like, I really feel like I want to be hands off on starting Patriots, like you can start a number of them. Sure. Whether it's Hunter Henry or Booty or Diggs, and you're going to get some good games because my goodness, Drake May. I know it's been an easy stretch of matchups here, Tennessee and New Orleans, but he has looked out like his film. The way he's moving in the pocket, the way he's delivering with anticipation, he looks brilliant, like true breakout. It's kind of funny. I've recently gotten into sports cards, and so I track the most trending sports cards on a weekly basis, which pretty much reflects human sentiment on how all players performing two weeks ago. Cam Scadaboo far and away the number one. This past week, it's Drake May. The Drake May.

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excitement has been building. This is a five and two team. Great coach. He does have weapons, even if you can't perfectly identify him. I think that you can go two ways. I think you can say play Diggs and Booty every week. I think that's okay. And I think you can say don't play any of them. I just, funny enough, I just made my first ever actual card investment. I got a, I got a PSA 10 of Drake May. Oh, did you? Yeah. So Mike, yeah, Mike has been climbing in with me. Two weeks ago, Mike's like, I can't get in. Yeah. I know this is bad for me. Yeah. Two weeks later, I'm in. I didn't know. I didn't know that. Well, I think that's a good. I think that's a good one because Drake May looks like he's fully legitimate. Yes. It's 23 years old. Yeah. Second year. I mean, Patriots fans totally deserve it after all that, those bad years.

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It's not fair. That feels a lot like the spurs going from, you know, David Robinson to Tim Duncan or Packers. Yeah. If he's, if he's going to be here to stay. Josh Downs was inactive last week. Could be back after the concussion against Tennessee was getting his snaps ramped up. He's more of a spot start and prey situation. Darius Slayton, you know. Just need him healthy. I, yeah, I still have my hesitations with him because. A lot of Jackson Darts fantasy value, I mean, it's chicken or egg, right? It's come from running the football. Yeah, but he is. It's whether you believe Jerry Slateen is good enough to demand targets in that offense. Which I do. I think that he is good enough. Little Jordan Humphrey had targets. Yeah, and where they are, the depth of the target. Like Wondale is getting downfield shots. Little Humphrey. Little Humphrey. Little Humphrey. Little Humphrey. I like that a lot. Little Humphrey.

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He's getting downfield shots. It's because it's in the DNA of how Jackson Dart wants to play the game. He wants to be aggressive. And once Darius Slate is healthy, which we don't know when that will be, it's two games out so far with a hamstring injury. He will, once he's on the field, he's their best downfield guy. He's their best wide receiver, I think. But certainly when it comes to the broken plays to Dart scrambling back in the pocket and pointing a direction to a wide receiver and saying like, go long and I'm going to chuck it. That's going to be Slayton. When he's healthy, I certainly will pick him up. It's just, it's tough right now. I don't feel like Jackson Dard's voice sounds like that. No, that was, that was exactly what he sounds like. I have a hard. Hey, man. Get down there. Get down to field. I'm throw him. I'm chuck it. Where's he from? I have a hard time. You know, I'm not going to play Slayton in his first game back. And we don't know that it is this week. He's from Utah. I don't think he sounds like that. Oh, no.

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Hey, Mr. Go down. Go down field. How may I politely ask you to move down the field? Darius. Darius, please go long. Mr. Slayton. I don't know. No, I've heard him. I've heard some funny sound bites of Jackson Dart. I. Four, four and six. Man, I love. Yeah. I think the whole world loves those two. Yes. Yes. And please talk about sports cards. Please stay healthy because. He's not staying healthy. Not the way he plays. Those two guys. really those guys have two years and left in their career i mean they are they are suicidal on the football field the way that they run into defenders yeah they have no fear

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No fear. Did you see Cam Scataboo three yards into the end zone lower his helmet for contact? Yes. He got the touchdown scores. The defender to Scataboo's credit, the defender still looked like he was going to tackle him. So he's like, take this. Yeah, it was funny. Tess Johnson, I just mentioned it. I think you have a long-term opportunity for Tess. You got to move him up. It's eye test plus opportunity. What round was he drafted? It was day three. Yeah. Seventh round. But he was a super undersized guy that has speed. Kind of a tank deli. Yeah, he looked good. Yeah, that's a great comp, actually. And another name that we need to, you know, right now on the website, he's not there. We're going to add him. But Christian Watson, to me, when I watch the Packers, they are in need of a wide receipt. They're in need of an alpha. You know, they tried to get that with Matthew Golden.

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Hasn't happened. Hasn't happened. But Christian Watson's window was opened up two weeks ago. I think he's back this week. He's a priority ad for me. Any other names, Mike, that you want to bring up? I mean, the guys from Denver. Yeah, because of Dallas. Because they're playing the Dallas Cowboys. Marvin Mims, Jr. and Troy Franklin are, I mean, Mims had a much better game. He was seven targets. Troy Franklin had 10. Now, I mean, inflated numbers, of course, because of the. the Denver comeback there in the fourth quarter. But the matchup says you can spot start him. Yeah, yeah, there's, you know, we were disappointed. We thought maybe Luther Burden would get more involved. He only had two targets last week. You can still pay attention to the rookie. Elyke Iommanner's path is super clean for a bad team because Tyler Lockett is gone. You have the injury to Ridley. He is still spot startable with fear and trembling, but you did see D.K.

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scored last week, 4 for 70. Malik Washington is a name to pay attention to because I haven't seen the reports of exactly what it was, but Jalen Waddle did leave with an injury. Darren Waller is going to be missing a couple weeks. Tyreek Hill is gone. Malik Washington might be like their last man standing. I have dropped candidates from the people. They want to know. Yeah, give us the landmine. Jacobi Myers. Oh, that's not him. Yeah, drop him. Jameson Williams. There he is. He's a landmine. Oh, no, he's a landmine. I think he's a landmine. I think you put him out there and let people scoop him up and play him. Now, it's funny because if I'm going against him, you're terrified. I'm absolutely terrified. I'm not happy to see JMO against me. Now, after the week, I probably am. Yeah, yeah, you're spending the seven shooter and giving it an attempt. Matthew Golden. I mean, what is? I don't understand what it's so. Jared Goff.

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has 15 passing touchdowns. He is top. Do we know where we are in terms of that? Is he like number three? I thought he was leading the league at one point. Kyle, do we have that number at all? Why don't you just tell us? I'm trying to pull it up, man. He's third. He's third right now. Stafford, 17, DAC 16, Jared Goff, 15. Jared Goff has given us one good fantasy game. That's pretty Jared Goff of him. I mean, that's pretty, that's pretty much how it works. It's so disappointing. Were you saying one good game for Jameson? No, for golf. Oh yeah, which is less than. Goff is, even Williams has the number one quarterback in week two. Other than that, he hasn't been in the top. Did you lose because of golf last night, Al? I did in my family league. And how many did you need? How much point? I needed 12. And in this scoring format, he got me 10.3. Yeah, and you thought it was a shoe. So that Gibbs going down really.

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Got you. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. He gives us so slow. I could have run faster than that. There you go. So Matthew Golden, you wouldn't let go of Jameson. I wouldn't let go of him. But I understand if you want to not do it. But when I look at my bench and I'm like, hey, do I pivot in Josh Downs or Jamo on a weekly spot start on a biweek? How do you not go with the explosives? No, I agree. I mean. But I don't want to be the defender of the bad pit. On a bye week. like this week where you're going to have to put someone in as a starter. If you really need someone to start, most of these names. Alec Pierce this week or Jamo? I'm going to play Alex Pierce because the- Oh, James are not playing. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Just think of the rest of the season. Like, think of a team. They're probably on by this week. That's right. If you do, our start sits are going to get real wonky if we think of them in our head and don't look. Yep. All right. We'll take a break. We'll talk tight ends and defenses and quarterbacks.

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But 17% of Herbert's targets are better than... And they're just going to keep throwing with Vidal and Haskins right now. Yeah. And so I have a little bit of caution here and a little bit of excitement. I talked about how excited I am for him in Dynasty. This is a rookie. If you don't know his profile, he basically comes in his first year in college, gets injured, only plays two games. The next year, he's 900 yards receiving as a tight end. So now he's going in his junior season, gets injured, only plays two games again. His final year in college, 900 yards again, and that for a tight end is outstanding. So this was a very productive collegiate tight end, whose father was an NFL player, great athlete, and when you watch on film, he passes the eye test. For a rookie to already be given this kind of opportunity in the offense at that position,

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I feel like it's bright days ahead. Am I willing to go out there and grab him? Yes. However, the chargers have, I believe it was the third or fourth most difficult strength of schedule for the time in position from here on out. It's not great for that. And while that's pretty much irrelevant sometimes and relevant sometimes for tight end, Tight end is a schematic thing where some defenses really are exploitable at that position, whether it's because of how they play or their personnel. And so I don't think he's going to be a just runaway breakout star the rest of his rookie season. He's got the ability, though. He has size, speed, strengths, you know, that are, that look like.

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what you dream of for fantasy. I think that's an awesome breakdown. And I think the two things that stand out to me about him just worth talking about, you can't just luck into 164. You just can't do that. There's no tight end out there. You're talking about an athletic profile and ability. You saw the run after the catch. And the other part of it is schematically, I like the fact that Herbert buys time in the pocket and this is a player fast enough, mismatch worthy, where he... He has found a way to be his favorite target late in a play where Herbert's running around and he can find this guy down the field because the linebacker covering him is not fast enough to cover him. So some other interesting stats about him. Six first read targets in each of the last two weeks. So he was the plan on those plays. And then 51% of his routes are in the slot. They're running a ton of three and four wide and they're putting him out there. So, yeah, I think he's very, very interesting just because.

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You know, you look at the options out there. Colson Loveland should get brought up as well. You want athletic young tight ends with ability and good quarterback play versus looking at, like right now Mason Taylor, I'd love to say go get him. I cut him this morning. Who's the quarterback of this inept team? Did you see the video of that kid getting interviewed leaving the Jet Stadium? Yeah, I did not. It was the most, I mean, it's kind of like our Cardinal ran. Yeah, it was me leaving the Cardinal Stadium. This poor kid, he's probably about 14 years old, 15 years old.

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He's walking. He's got this solemn look on his face. He's tremendously sad. Actually, I don't want to spoil it. Can you get that clip? Yeah. Al, grab that clip because I don't... Yeah, we just play it. I just want to play the clip because it is... It's got all the emotion of football and fantasy football and everything all built into about five seconds worth of talking. You know what I'm talking about, right, Al? Oh, yeah. The only thing that won't come through on audio is his... Face. ...is his... Wet eyes. Yeah. He's not crying, but it's just like a little, it's like a little well up. Yeah, it's just like true, true sadness. But that was to close that point, it was just to say that, you know, to Rod Taylor and Justin Fields, how good can it get for Mason Taylor? It can't get that good. It can get very good for Colson Loveland. Yeah, Colston Loveland, I wanted to talk about him. They tick on Baltimore. We like that matchup. Loveland was the...

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had the third highest target share of the week this past week, and now Colquemette is dealing with an injury. So a top 10 pick, second half of the season, I think there is a decent chance that Colston Lovellon becomes a weekly starter. I mean, that's at least what the Chicago Bears envisioned for him, and the Colquette injury really clears the way. The line right now is 50 and a half in that game, which... absolutely says that Lamar, at least the, you know, the lines assume Lamar's. Or they think that the bears are going to score 30-something points. Kate Otten, we just talked about it, nine targets. Could be a more valuable player. Yeah, I got to move him up now after the injury. The injury, yeah. Yeah. So there are some options this week. Tightens are okay. Joanne Johnson showed back up last week. So maybe he's finally healthy. Yeah.

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But Otten, I mean, who would you start? I feel like I would start Otten over Loveland and Gadsden if I needed a start this week. I'm going to chase Gadsden, I think, for one more week, just with the fact it's been two weeks in a row. But I don't blame you on that. I mean, Godwin's probably out again. For the one week, I don't blame you for going Otten long. Like if my, if I'm okay at the tight end position and I'm just looking to. add some depth or some possibility i'd put loveland on there on my bench over hot what if you are not okay at tight end okay and you're missing someone yeah how much how much fab for for gadsen if you have a desperate tight-in need oh man not that you have that choice because i already signed him last week jason but how much if if if i hadn't if i hadn't signed him well after after i changed you waller i needed to pick somebody up i'm done do you have that clip yet al

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Just about. Just working on it. Yeah, it's, uh, I mean, I want to know the fab spin because I feel like, uh, you're shooting your shot on on these guys. Yeah. I mean, this, in terms of this week, I guess it's pretty aggressive. I mean, I, I think, uh, I think 20%, you know, if you're a $100 league, 20 bucks, that would be as probably as high as I would go. Yeah, all right. But I'd be, but I'd be willing to go that. That would be my bid would be 20. Okay. Which means, of course. It would be 21. Oh, we've got, we've got the clip, but we don't have the audio. Are you, are you working it out? Yeah, it could be just, do you want me to read it? It's up. Does he know it's up on the screen right now? I do. Okay. This is really good stuff. Oh, it's gone. I love it. You let us know. I'm trying to hang on here in the tight in section for you, Al. I appreciate you. Get your thoughts on the game. I hate this team. I was born into this, and I, I'm not going to ever, I'm always a Jets fan, but like.

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I just, I hate this team. Well said, man. My guy. Yeah. That's exactly. Wise beyond his years. Yeah. I want that. I hate this team. Just that little clip on my board every time I, the Cardinals do something. Oh man. I was born into this. The best, the best phrase. Like this is not my fault. Yeah. Young man. Go find another team. And respect. He said he's not leaving. But he hates this team. Yeah. All right. You should probably leave. What are some defense? Leave now what you can. We are so indoctrinated by big team. I mean, it's just this fundamental, man. It's fundamental. I mean, I don't know. I think Papa Josh roots for different teams in the Olympics. Different kinds. That's true. That's true. I believe that was the World Cup. Oh, it was the World Cup, right? Yes. And it was a monster. It was just a happiness hedge. No, it was a monster. What happened?

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