Week 12 Waivers & QB Streamers + Bottle of Charbonnet! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/21

the Tennessee Titans, a true pass funnel defense and the Bengals. The schedule is great for the Colts coming up here. So Josh Downs is available. I would be looking for him first. I want to add some context to his injury situation because it came out from Colts Beat Rider this morning that Nate Atkins talked about the injury has actually been there since organized training activities in the spring. It's never healed. And flare-ups have been common throughout the season. And so he's kind of not known when he can play and when he can't play, which is all the more impressive that he fought through it and has been such a separator. Like he's been an elite rookie wide receiver, honestly. But something to monitor. You do have a fellow rookie, Jaden Reed, who continues to be involved in Green Bay. You know, the difficult part of that in every one of those matchups, and this was a Thursday one.

It's just that you have, you know, Romeo Dobbs had a nice game. He's been scoring touchdowns. Christian Watson is always there. Musgraves involved. So you're rolling the dice with Jaden Reed, but I think he is a really, really good player. He's probably not number two for me. Oh, no. Well, I think I'd rather pick up, like I have Rashid Shaheed very high. Okay. Because I think Rashid Shahid will be heavily, heavily involved if Derek Carr is healthy. I think he'll still be involved if he isn't. But the target totals for Rashid Shaheed without Michael Thomas. 25% against Minnesota, of the 25% of the targets in week 10. Yeah, and he's just a, he's a great player. And he's not just a deep threat. Nine targets in that game. Mike was bringing it up. So I do think Rashid Shahid is pretty sneaky. Atlanta, Detroit, Carolina, on the docket for him.

You know, Beckham would have been at the very top of my list. That's where I was going to go is what do we do? But the injury is bugging. With the Ravens wide receivers. Because yes, Isaiah likely will be kind of the one-for-one replacement of Mark Andrews. But Isaiah likely, while he's a priority pickup at the tight end position, he's not Mark Andrews. So what does this team do with their wide receivers? Because Beckham has been a... It's been great. Like he's had a really strong year considering he plays a very small amount of the snaps. Week one, when there was no Mark Andrews, that was the week that we had the, you know, the very first game for Zay Flowers. And it was like 10 targets or whatever it was. So it was, you know, really exciting to see how much they're utilizing him. So and then Bateman has.

been a massive disappointment. He did catch a touchdown, but that was his only catch this past week. But they have to do something. So are you going in on Beckham? Beckham's shoulder is hurt. And that's what concerns me about going heavy. I probably would bid slightly more on Beckham than Bateman. I would not be surprised that Bateman has a better week. And I would have been trading for flowers if your deadline's not over. Because flowers, you know, when you talk about the beginning of the year when Mark Andrews was hurt. Zay Flowers was the beneficiary. And then when Andrews came back, he went more to the sideline. So, Jason, I don't know if you agree. I don't know where your mindset is there. The shoulder injury for Beckham is what stops me from putting them higher on the list. They have a buy week after this week. I love the matchup against the Chargers. You know that they're going to throw the ball on the Chargers. And it's just a matter of who. I think Beckham is a fine pickup and play.

If I am ordering Beckham and Flowers, Flowers isn't on your waivers, but I would still have flowers ahead. I think he'll be the priority in the pecking order. But the deep shots, you know, have been coming to O'Dell Beckham and the matchup is perfect for that. I've got another name that I think is, you know, when you're looking at picking up and playing a guy, like Pop Douglas, D'Mario Douglas, he is good. But he's not going to go out there and explode. You know. because Mac Jones or Zappy. It's just one of those like if you need a couple points, you want a safe option where you go, I know this guy's going to get at least seven targets. Okay, you can go that way. But for me, Tutu Atwell has had a lot of explosive games this year and he's been very involved the last couple weeks. It doesn't look like it on the box score. Only three targets last week. That's not true. It's because he drew about 100 pass interference calls, but he had a lot of shots where those don't

Those don't end up on the box score. The play never happened. But the targets were coming. Deep targets were coming. And if Cooper Cup is gone against Arizona, you could easily see the path for a touchdown and 80 plus yards for 2-2. It's a good point. He was good when Cup was out. So if Cup misses, more opportunity. Khalil Shakir has been fantasy relevant in three of the last four weeks. Gabe Davis has been. He's just disappeared. Mm-hmm. So. What a good blocker, though. I mean, strong lad. Clear secure against Philly this week. Could be a spot start. Michael Wilson didn't play last week. Cardinals play the Rams, somebody to monitor along with Rondale Moore. If you're taking kind of dart throws in Arizona, those both seem like nerve-wracking plays to me. Yeah, Michael Wilson.

I was really heating up on. But the fact that he missed a game a couple weeks ago with a shoulder injury and then re-agravated that shoulder, that's what he missed for again. I'm a little bit pessimistic. Then they've got the buy week and week 14. So the path for his breakout seems hampered. Would you drop Gabe to add Shakir? No. I would drop Gabe to add some of the people on this list, but not secure. Gabe Davis is. He's weird, man. Yeah. The last three weeks, Gabe Davis is two catches. Yeah. Or three weeks. I'm aware. When you're asking me, would I drop Gabe Davis? You can ask me because I have Gabe Davis. And I was questioning already, should I drop Gabe Davis for some of these guys? But he also is one of the rare few guys out there that can.

Have a 100-yard-two touchdown game. I would drop him for Rashidjahe. That I would do. Sure. And then Downs, if he was out there, I would do that as well. And probably bring up A.T. Perry of the New Orleans Saints. He also saw 84% of the snaps in week 10 against Minnesota. Another rookie. So he's someone to keep an eye on it. He's enormous, right? Yeah, he's six foot five. I mean, enormous tall. He's six foot five, 78 pounds. He's... 205, Jason. You just can't... 205 at 6.5 is... That's spelt. So, but with the injury to Michael Thomas, that's, you know, that's an important name, especially if James is there, because James don't care. Well, last week we were talking about the matchup for Chris Godwin and Mike Evans didn't like Godwin against San Francisco. Godwin really didn't deliver again. Six for 39.

four for 54 and two for 16 the last three weeks. Would you move on from Godwin? It's hard to drop someone who's been so good in the past and who gets the targets that he has. So I don't think I, I don't think I do, I don't think I drop him. Are you done with Jacobi Myers? Yeah. Yeah, I'm done with Jacobi Myers. You know, I've seen him on some opponents rosters. And when I see that, I'm like, Heck yeah, man. So I don't want him on my mind. He misses Jimmy G. Yeah, for sure. All right. Let's talk about some tight ends. I think Isaiah likely is going to be at the top of people's lists just in case you can catch some likely in a bottle. Some likely in a bottle. No, don't repeat it. You don't repeat it.

It makes it worse. Well, it doesn't make it worse if it's really good. Sometimes I repeat a good one. Yeah, listen to this again. Do you, Mike, you said it's very unlikely that Isaiah is worth maybe the price that you'd have to pay. He, you know, we have, we have evidence of him being fantastic in replace of Mark Andrews. But this year, you know, week one, they knew they were going to be without Mark Andrews. True. 72% of the snaps, one for four. And this. The game against the Bengals, they didn't know because there was a in-game injury, but still 74% of the snaps, two targets, no catches. He's out there running tons of routes. So this particular week, because it's like Isaiah Likeley, Pat Fryermuth, Kate Otten, I mean, it's pretty empty. So I do think it's worth taking the risk on him, but don't look at Isaiah Likely as you're like, well, I did it. I solved my Mark Andrews problem.

I got likely in there and he's going to carry me. He should be okay, but there's a chance for 0.0 points from him. I don't like the tied-in options that are out there in terms of majority not rostered. No, no, there's not a lot of good ones. Majority rostered, Pat, Pat, Friermuth. Pratt, Chris Pratt, Friamuth. is out there still in about half of leagues as an awesome matchup against the Cincinnati Bengals. They changed Matt Canada. I've got no confidence in him right now. Well, it's hard to have confidence in any pass catcher for the Steelers, especially one in Pat Friermouth, who has had so many games when he's been active this year where he's had like one reception for four yards. Sorry, sorry. I just happened to look at his full season pace while you were saying that.

I'm laughing because he's on pace for 30 receptions for 200 yards. Yeah. I mean, that's, that's a 17 game pace. 17 game pace, you're saying. Yeah. Now, granted. His 17 game pace would be 30 for 200. Yes. Now, that's a little. That's my stat line. Yeah. It's a little unfair because Tua his five, two his five games, you know, we're like 50% snaps, kind of injury going away and coming back from injury. But it's not good. no matter how you slice it. I'm not in. I'd rather have Kate Auden. This is still a player. I'd rather have Donald Parham. This is still a player who last year was, you know, a 98 target, 730 reception or yard tight end. He's a talented human being. Was that two years ago? No, that was last year. Yeah, no, I look, the talent's there, but I'm just telling you if I'm going into my fantasy plows, I'm trying hard not to play him.

So this week, if you've got Mike, let me ask Mike. Okay. If you've got Isaiah likely or you've got Pat Fryermuth, both have plus matchups, which one are you going with? I would go likely. But I was going to say, if you lost Mark Andrews in your redraft, I'm probably trying to add both of those guys. Like you need to take multiple shots at the tight end position. Yeah, I mean, that's. That's exactly what I just did you have them both? I lost Mark Andrews in our dynasty and I had no other people. So I went and got Isaiah likely Pat Firmuth and Hunter Henry. I'm shotgunning. I, I, um, you're BB gunning. That sounds much better. I was talking to Jason this morning and I just want to mention it because he's heavily rostered 80%. But maybe your trade deadline is not over. Maybe he's out there.

I think that there is a decent chance we get a reprise from David Najoku towards the end of the season. I think he might legitimately be the best tight end in fantasy over the next six weeks. He has plus matchups in every single game the rest of the season when you face tight ends. And to use a word used too often yesterday, he's already been on a heater. He's already been. 15 targets last week, eight or nine targets the weeks before. And the way that this offense is functioning right now, I'm telling you, Jason, you've said it all year long. You're looking at the opposition and what they give up to the tight end position, and you're leaning into that. This week, Najoku plays Denver. They're dead last. They're worse in Cincinnati in terms of fantasy points given up. And like I said, every matchup from here until the end of the regular season is plus for tight ends.

And he can't complete the ball down the field of Cooper. Some of the, some of the matchups that you look to target the most this year are the Houston Tech at that tight end Houston Texans, Los Angeles Rams, Cincinnati Bengals. Denver. Denver. All of those are his like that like. That was off the top of my head. I'm not looking at his schedule, but every single one of those are in the upcoming schedule. So it's a really solid point. Yeah, Denver, the Rams, Jacksonville, Chicago, Houston, the Jets, and Cincinnati. And he's already been a top 12 tight in five consecutive weeks. What's his target numbers over the last couple weeks? His target numbers have been massive. I know we had 15. 15 from DTR, 9 the week before, 6, 8, 9.

Yeah, those are great numbers. And we talked about this a little bit, but with DTR at quarterback, the, he needs, no joke. He needs a short, dump off big target because he's not hitting those 15, 20 yard shots down the field to Amari. It was weird. Like you brought up, like Jerome Ford started the game, got a red zone carry, scored, great start. But he had a super low snap percentage. And then DTR had. 45 dropbacks, the third highest in the league last, like in a game of 10 to 10, you would have expected them to make it a running game and not put it into DTR's hands? Yeah, like he threw the ball 12 times. But instead, he had 45 dropbacks in this game. There is. And they're winning ball games, man. There is an off chance that Joe Flacco is the quarterback for the Cleveland Browns. They did add him to the practice squad.

yesterday or the day before I can't recall. That happened coinciding with that. They did say that Dorian will start again this week. But if he goes out there and they lose because of him, it wouldn't surprise me if they moved to Flacco because this is a playoff team. Would that make you feel good about Amari Cooper? Better, better for sure. And even better with Nojoku. It's funny because our bar for Amari Cooper is so low. Like we wanted the kind of not good Deshaun Watson to help him out. He just needs not terrible. That's all he needs. Defensive options, you know, Kansas City plays Las Vegas this week. Aiden O'Connell is an interception machine combined with the chiefs who made Jalen Hertz look silly for two quarters. Kansas City is a smash play, but they're heavily rostered.

When you look at, you know, you can look at the Denver defense who's been stepping it up. They get to play DTR. That's a good play. And the game's at home for Denver. Miami plays the Jets and Tim Boyle. Yes, please. Yeah, that's. They're pretty heavily rostered too. Minnesota plays Chicago. Risky business, in my opinion. It's, it always is when Fields is on the other side. It could be great or it could be risky. Yeah. You can even. It could be both. Yeah, I mean, you can give up a bunch of points to Justin Fields and he will still take. He will still take sacks and he will still turn the ball over. So the low rostered options that I like, I mean, I love the Broncos against DTR. Then I would go Vikings and then I would say probably the Patriots against not Danny DeVito. I might play the Giants.

That game. Over the Patriots defense. I have the Patriots. It's at home and the Patriots, they might be starting your brother. Yeah. I mean, I would play the Patriots over the Giants. It hasn't been announced. I love both of those options in that game. You don't expect, you expect some turnovers and some lackluster offense and some sacks. So Giants, Patriots game defenses are good. And the Bengals are still out there. They're going to be at home against the Steelers who. their offense just stinks. Sometimes we rattle off so many that I want to remind people. Yeah. We do have our rankings on the website. So you can catch the waiver rankings. And that includes defenses now, something we added this year. The waiver wire rankings saw a summary of the whole show where we have players ranked. And that way you can compare it to your league and who's available. Like I saw a league where New Orleans was available, like the defense this morning, one of my leagues where they play Atlanta and Desmond Ritter. And it's like,

Yeah, that would be great to pick up. Ironically, I think that you should look at Atlanta as well in case Derek Card does not clear concussion protocol because you know James loves throwing touchdowns to the other team. And then following that, they get the Jets. Today's waiver wire was brought to you by Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3 face off against the ultimate threat in a single player matchup or you can settle old scores on 16 iconic maps in multiplayer. and survive the hordes in a co-op open world zombie experience. Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3 available now, rate, and infirmature. Full stream ahead. Well, we all have our streaming quarterback options this week, but the first question I have that Brooks threw in there. If Trevor Lawrence was dropped last week, which he probably was because it was his first, you know, he had a good performance, but it was the first 20 plus point performance since week 15 of last year, are you...

forgiving him and just adding some, you know, spinning fab to add him. He plays Houston, Cincinnati, Cleveland the next three weeks. He's a streaming option, and that's how you need to view him. If he was on the waivers, I would pick him up over my streaming option right now that I'm about to say because he plays against Houston. That should be a game where I want most of the pieces on both sides of the ball. Now that he's got Zay Jones back, that I'm sure factored into him having a really good game last week. So. I would play Trevor Lawrence over my streaming candidate, but I wouldn't just go. I'm unloading everything for Trevor Lawrence, and he's my starter the rest of the way because it's not going to be good. Going to Cleveland is probably not going to be a good time. Exactly. So my streaming candidate this week is Jordan Love, a player who has not looked good. The majority of times has had a handful of just excellent throws. One of those things where you can really see the talent that's there, but the inconsistency, I don't know that it ever gets fixed.

But this matchup against Detroit is really, really good because we've brought it up. It's very difficult to run against Detroit. And you can have success throwing. And you need to throw because Detroit usually puts up 30 points. So this is in Detroit, which is great. That means it's in a dome. No worry about weather. He's coming off his first 300-yard game. He's actually the quarterback 12 right now. And you look at his receiving options. It's like I like Jaden Reed. I like Christian Watson. I like Romeo Dobbs. I like John Wicks. He's going to say, we talked about. John Wicks. Yeah. Yeah. Dunds playing that on for size. It's not bad. I love John Wick. It's harder to say Don Tavian. Yeah, it's easier to say John. Don Tavian Wicks. We talked about the Packers wide receivers on, well, it's not out yet, but the episode of the Dynasty show this week. And it was, dude, they have like a sneaky, good young crew.

As long as Jordan Love can develop, I mean, he is, he's already set up for success. My streamer this week, it's Baker Mayfield against the Indianapolis Colts, 27th and schedule adjust to fantasy points. Colts home games are averaging 57 points. Yeah, baby. That's number one in the NFL. I want that game. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. I want that game. Yeah, he wants it, Mike. I retract. I'm out. Baker, three games in a dome this year, two touchdowns, three, two. It should be a good time. This should be a really fun game. You know, it's crazy because you've said the wheels have come off a little bit for Tampa where they were competing. Ian Hartett's put out the Baker Mayfield's last four of the last five weeks. Week seven, he drove for the game-tying field goal. They get the game-tying field goal, and then Atlanta kicks a game-winning field goal as time expires.

He has the Hail Mary in week eight that Godwin just barely missed. He had the go-ahead touchdown against Stroud in week nine, where it seems like they had won the game, and then Stroud says, no, thank you. And then in week 11, he had the two drops against, you know, San Francisco when the game was close. He's been pretty good and just not getting a lot of help. I like it. I thought about that one this week. I'm going to go with the Winston Car. Whoever starts against Atlanta because the matchup's so good, so I don't care. Over the last five weeks, the Falcons, they're dead last and scheduled adjusted fantasy points allowed to the quarterback position. In fact, the last three weeks are kind of embarrassing, Atlanta. Kind of. Four touchdowns in the quarterback six. That was Will Levis against you. Levis has been garbage. He's been terrible. But not against Atlanta. Nope.

Josh Dobbs was three touchdowns and the quarterback five didn't even play the whole game. And then Kyla Murray was the quarterback six against you. You know, if it's car, he'll have Camara and Tayslam and Olave and Rashid Shahid. Put in the car. And if it's Winston. Put in the Winnebago. Okay. All right. Now see if I repeat that. Right. It kind of throws it into question. Okay. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. But that would be my streaming quarterback option. That means this show is over. And all we have left is the megaladone. So save your voice, Jason. I'm going straight to bed right now. Going to hydrate, get an IV drip. Hydrate and hybrid. Now that's not really different from a normal day. No, I like going to bed real early. Yeah, that's an idea. And the IV. Usually around 11 a.m. Yeah, we just keep him kind of in a like a capsule. Yeah. And we wake up for the show. You wake up for the show and we put them back under. Go back down. Yeah.

YouTube.com slash the fantasy footballers, subscribe, click the bell, get notified when the show drops. Mike is shaking his head. Just so proud to be a part of this crew, right? I mean, it's the pinnacle, really. Yeah. The show is just excellent all the time. Excellent, all the time. Awesome, excellent. That'll do it for today's episode. Talk to you tomorrow on the Megalodon. Goodbye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on join thefoot.com and follow us on Twitter at theFF ballers.