Week 12 Waivers & QB Streamers + Bottle of Charbonnet! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/21

Well, it is a really important time of the year. The playoffs are coming. Trade deadlines are here or over, so waivers are super important. We're going to tell you who to pick up. It's a really important waiver wire week at the running back position. Make sure you let us know how your season is going. Subscribe and enjoy the show. To the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in. With a little little Knicks in there. We're welcome in. Tuesday, November 21st, the fantasy footballers podcast, Mike Ry, Jason Moore, Andy Holloway, joined as always by Deucer's Allie. Al Borland, Judge Giamatti, Papa Josh over there. I like one of the three of them. Try to guess which one. No, I'm mostly, just so the listeners know, I know it was a little emotional earlier in the week. I forgive you, Al.

Thank you. There you go. So you like two of them. I forgive you as well. Unforgiveness. I take it back. I declare unforgiveness. I declare unforgiveness. Welcome in, one and all. Big day, waiver day, Monday night game to talk about Megalodon episode. Big week. Tomorrow. The Megalodon episode is tomorrow, which means it's our Wednesday, Thursday, Friday episode, all wrapped into one. And that means by necessity due to it being longer, it will come out a little bit later. But do not fear you will have a monster Megalodon show to carry you through the weekend. Look, maybe Aunt Barb.

is she's talking to you. Oh, Barbara. She's telling you all about her new hobbies. And you're like, hey, hold on a second. I have to poop. And then you pop in the episode and you have a nice long megalopoopoopo. Has that's going to be a long poop. You don't have some hamroids after that. You know, family, everyone getting together on Thanksgiving, you know, the. Oh, I know you're gone. No, maybe you do. The. Sometimes conversations can turn a little bit uncomfortable because people have different perspectives on life. Have we ever considered when that comes up, just start talking about your fantasy lineup? Oh, nice. That's a new way to do it. Because, I mean, no one cares. Like, it is the ultimate. No one cares about your fantasy. Oh, they'll walk away from you. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like, I will stop this. So Barb is going on about some politics. And you just go, man, Garrett Wilson this week.

I don't know what he's going to do with Tim Boyle. Got me negative points less. What am I supposed to do? What am I supposed to do, Barb? And then Barb just slowly backs into the bushes. See, I actually thought you were saying you just pop one air butt in, you know what I mean? Oh. For the whole Thanksgiving. But Megaladone's show tomorrow. Excited about that. We had a Monday night football game with. Yeah, we did. You know, a lot of things happened in that game. You had. Jalen Hertz with negative points at halftime. They won the game, by the way. It had a big game from DeAndre Swift on 12 carries. It was the Devante Smith game. AJ Brown bottled up. One for eight. So a lot of people went into Monday night football saying, I just need a little bit from AJ Brown. And they got, look, it was Hollywood brown pants. It's AJ Brown pants this week. If your last name was Brown, not a lot of fantasy points. Yeah. And then on the other side. One for eight.

On the other side, you had 24 receptions by the Kansas City Receiving Corps spread across 11 targets. And Justin Watson led the way, 5 for 53 and a touchdown. Isaiah Pacheco ran well against the tough defense, 19 for 89. And Patrick Mahomes and company, you know, he's barely above 50% completion under 200 yards through a pick to, you know, he's got wide receivers that can't catch the football. Oh, my goodness. I mean, this wasn't. Mahomes' fault. You know, he hit MVS for a touchdown pass. He did throw a touchdown pass that. MVS said, I don't want that. NBS is like, return to Cinder. Clinton Johnston, and he just chambled it. It was also a, you know, if you didn't get to watch the game as a very wet, rainy game, it had been raining there for several days. There was hope that the rain would let up by the time the game goes, but this was a sloppy affair. Yeah, and, you know,

At this point, and we're talking waivers today, we'll look at wide receivers. You might as well, you know, we got the wheel of shame. You might as well spin the wheel of Kansas City receivers every week on the waiver wire because they just, they spread the ball to everybody. And, you know, it doesn't matter what we want from them, it seems. Justin Watson had 11 targets. You know? What? Kansas City, what are we doing? Yeah. What are we doing? It's a superstar. Yeah. He also had a super drop. Any other thoughts on this game that you guys want to talk about? Uh, man. No, it was just, it was mostly pain. Mostly fantasy pain watching that game. Yeah. Jason pulled out a win. Hertz ended up. I needed like 12 points from Hertz, which he has never not achieved in his entire career. So it was like, you know what's going to happen.

Yep. But halfway into the third quarter. We did. Well, I did too. But once you're, he gave up hope. Once you're deep into the third quarter and he's got zero fantasy points. Are you going to out him, Mike? No, it just. About what happened in the channel? Someone may have tilted declaring I'm selling all my players. Like, I'm out. Come get me your draft picks for next year. I think he was really just looking for those trades to be ready. Yes. If the game got towards the very end, he could smash. Because our trade deadline is over when that game is over. So it's like if I, if I'm out of the running, then it was what you had to do. Yeah, I didn't, I didn't have a choice. But then it was like, yes, I'm back in. And now, now Andy and I have the matchup. We have been waiting for for half of the season. He said he turned over a new leave this morning. I did.

He says he's looking forward to it. It's going to be fun. He's going to have fun playing fantasy football. That's great. And may the best man win. Until Thursday goes sour. I don't believe you, but. All right. It's nice. End of the news we go. News and notes from around the league. Presented by USAA Insurance. I am in on that plan, though. I want to have. This is going to be a fun week. Kyron Williams, returning from his high ankle sprain. Sean McVeigh said he will be back against the Cardinals. This is significant. You know, if you were leaning on or emergency starting Royce Freeman or Daryl Henderson, Kyron should be back. We don't know. You know, like a high ankle sprain, we didn't think it was going to be severe to begin with with Kyron. Then all of a sudden he's on IR. And we, and maybe it's just some Jonathan Taylor PTSD. But, you know, he's had time to recover.

I expect him to be the lead back. He could be a league winner at some point in time. Could. I wasn't confident enough to put him right back in there as a like guarantee for high volume, but that is in play this week. I just don't know if it's going to be a work him back situation or not. So because it was a high ankle sprain, we've talked about this a lot. The majority of high ankle sprains you miss zero games or three games. Like that's the normal timeline. Then when you come back, you're not necessarily at full strength for that first week or two. But because they had their buy week already in the IR window, this will be five weeks he has missed. So he should be completely ready to go.

at near pre-injury levels of production. The matchup against Arizona, if I had Karen Williams, I would, it is not without risk. Certainly reaggravation or any kind of. Time share. Right. The limitation on his touches could exist, but I will absolutely be putting him back in the lineup against Arizona. Cleveland, Baltimore, the next two weeks for Kyron after this week against Arizona. Woof. So if he isn't back to full strength this week, it might be a rough three weeks of just prepping up for the fantasy playoffs and hoping he can deliver in weeks 15, 16, and 17. Zach Ertz is eligible to return. We'll see if that has an impact. Dawson Knox eligible to return, but Sean McDermott came out yesterday, for those of you with Dalton Kincaid, and McDermott said he's not ready to return. Dawson Knox needs more time, and I, for one, think...

The healthiest Dawson Lux possible is what we need back out there for 2020. Like four. Well, I mean, like week 18. Yes. I mean, get a tune up for the playoffs. Agreed. Just heal up until. Agreed. So there you go. More news. Cooper Cup day to day with a low ankle sprain. Nerve-wracking. I mean, the Cooper Cup situation from here to the end of the year is going to be nerve-wracking because here's what we've known this year. injured twice. When it's not Stafford, bad. When it is Stafford, could get hurt. Could get re-injured. Could just be bad. Could just be bad. So this week, Jason, do you have the conviction if he's active to just throw him back in against Arizona? Probably, right? It would be really difficult to bench him if he's active. I don't expect him to be active, though, which means Puka should be an awesome play against Arizona. One can hope.

Kenneth Walker. There will be an extra pause after any player that Jason and I have in our matchup this week as we glare. Oh, my guess. Yeah. That was a puka glare. Kenneth Walker, not a candidate for IR at this time. DNP on Monday, the Thanksgiving game. Yeah, he's not playing. There's no way he's going to be out there. Pete Carroll said no structural issue to Gino Smith. He's a DMP. We'll see if he's out there. Thursday. Derek Carr remains in concussion protocol. They were on by last week. So we will be monitoring that closely, whether we get a James Winston experience or not. Are they Thursday or are they Sunday? I believe they're Sunday. Okay. Yeah, they are Sunday. That'll give him a little bit more time to clear concussion protocol. I feel like his injury is one that I'm very much monitoring because it has what seems to be a pretty big effect on Alvin Camara, on Chris Oliva.

on Rashid Shaheed. The players I will have different expectations for based on whether it's Carr or James. The one thing we do know is Michael Thomas won't be a part of that equation. He is going to take some time to recover from a knee injury. Devon A-chan, not been ruled out yet. Worst. You know, I like Mike McDaniel's comedy. I think he's a funny, dry humor kind of fella. Love it. Not helpful. Not helpful right here. You know, last week when they're asking about his involvement, he came out and he's like, what kind of stakes you got on fantasy football this week? And you're like, ha, ha, ha, ha. But seriously, tell us the truth. This week, he said, I definitely would not rule him out, but I definitely would not rule him in. Thank you. I'll go ahead and say, I don't think he plays. They play on Friday. Yeah. Don't forget, everyone. Black Friday game. Black Friday.

with Tim Boyle. Tim Boyle. That's what the NFL wanted when they scheduled. That's what Amazon wanted when they scheduled Black Friday football. Yeah. So. I like that you said that's what Amazon wanted when they scheduled because you know that's what happened. They bought their way into the day existing. Yeah. They went to the NFL and said, hey. And honestly, how much can we pay you to make? It's a great idea. I'm in on that. I'm in on that. I love the, I mean, you got the long weekend. Let's just get a Friday game in there. Yeah. Justin Jefferson questionable again. Monday night against the Bears. I don't think he plays. Yeah, it seems. It seems so. I had mentioned on the 21 day window before that it means that he couldn't wait until after the buy. Apparently I don't know how to do math on what 21 days is from that window with a Monday night football game with the Bears. But it's being reported that he could.

not have the window activated until after the by week. So maybe he does not play against the Bears. They want to be smart is what they said. And then Patrick Taylor signed from the practice squad for the Packers. Packers had Aaron Jones didn't practice Monday. Even if his injury isn't long term, I don't expect him to play this week. And then I don't know if you guys saw this, but AJ Dylan was limited with a groin injury. Yeah, but it's the also Thursday, right? It's. It's an estimated practice. Like, they're not actually practicing. Fair. So I expect AJ Dylan will be all right. And the other- They signed James Robinson as well. Well, because Emmanuel Wilson, their other, the rookie backup third string running back. Other other. He was also hurt on Sunday. Desmond Ritter will start for the Falcons, Arthur Sith, bringing Ritter back. Tim Boyle will start for the Jets. I guess.

You know, we got this news early yesterday. I'll say this. The Vegas line changed by two points with them announcing Tim Boyle over Zach Wilson. And when I say two points, I mean two points in favor of the opposition of the Jets. Right. So, and Boyle did not, he does not get me excited. We have been clamoring for a different quarterback to be playing than Zach Wilson. And sometimes it's a be careful what you wish for situation. Fine, fine, we'll do it. This should be worse. But I want it very clear that when we've been clamoring for a different quarterback, that has been on the general manager to acquire a different quarterback. That being said, Trevor Simeon also on this roster. I don't understand why he's not the backup. He is actually now the backup. Zach Wilson should be active for this game, but he will be the third string quarterback.

Man. Probably doesn't feel very good. No, it's... He's used to it. He's always been a third string quarterback. It's... Performance-wise. Right. It's over. Steelers fired Matt Canada? Wow. Did you not see this one? Matt Canada, the American... Man, there was a video that... I did not see us until just now. Yeah, this broke this morning. Wow. And then I also saw a video of... Chris Boswell. Is that the one you're talking about? Yes. Is that in the last game? No, because they just lost. Yeah, it must have been a... So I don't know when this happened, but it was a jubial Matt Canada, you know, trying to celebrate a win with this team. And then Chris Boswell is kind of walking behind them and the camera catches them saying, not because of you. Oh, no. No, for real? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's going around. Oh, my goodness. The team had...

rightfully fully turned because the Matt Canada offense has been absolutely. They have been outgained every single game this year. There hasn't been one game where they have outgained their opponent in Yardage. Did I say jubial? You said jubial? That's a new word. Look, I've said if you say a word and people know what you mean by it, it's not a word. It is not. That's how words work. I'll tell you this. I promise you it's not just Matt Canada. Like Kenny Pickett's been terrible. Just like we talk about Nathaniel Hackett and Zach Wilson, that is a combination of problems. Canada picket, combination. Like I've heard from legitimate lifelong, hardcore Steelers fans who right now desperately want wish.

that Mason Rudolph was the quarterback for this team and believe that that would be the best situation for this team. Yes. Yes. I'm telling you. I'm sure that people actually think that, but it is not correct. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, they might think it, but they don't. Well, look, Mason Rudolph had some games where he could move the ball. So, can he pickets move the ball sometimes too? Oh, are you defending him now? No. Pickett's Dan. No. Mike loves picket. I don't like Rudolph. That's fair. Yeah. I mean, is Mitch Trubisky choice then? Yeah. See, Mitch is like... Mitch is better than Rudolph. Mitch is Pittsburgh's Winston. Yeah, that's fair. You're probably going to lose. He'll throw up for 300 and 4 interceptions. It's at least a glimmer of hope. Like, let's see what... That Canada's gone. Let's see if we can turn this offense around. That was today's news and notes. Presented by USAA Insurance. Learn more at USAA.com slash...

Insurance. Let's get to that jubial waiver wire. Welcome to the waiver wire. Presented by Call of Duty, Modern Warfare 3. This week, no buys. No buys. Next week, six huge buys. Bears, bills, giants, raiders, ravens, Vikings. So many big players missing next week. But this week, we're like, nah. You're playing on Thanksgiving, folks. So we've got everybody. Which means the megalah. Don episode will be huge. Running back waiver wire selections. I assume it's unanimous. I haven't looked at where you guys have them, but there's one big pickup. Zach Charbonnet is a must pick up for the Seattle Seahawks. It's not a great matchup against the San Francisco 49ers, but this is a very talented. It's not a good matchup next week. It's not a good matchup the following week. The three week run is the Niners, the Cowboys, the Niners, not.

what you hope for, but this is a very talented player who will get a lion's share of the work. He will receive passes. He will have goal line opportunities. He can have chunk yardage. And when he is a workhorseback, he should be very valuable for fantasy. And he's a clear waiver wire pickup of the week to me. I would be, you know, going all in at this point in the season. There's not much you need to withhold and save for your fab. I will say, Look at your other league mates. Make sure you know how much fab they have so that you don't overspend unnecessarily. If you could save, you know, five bucks going into the playoffs where you can grab the right defense. Great. Otherwise, spend it all if you need a start. Okay. Other options, AJ Dillon should get the start for Green Bay. Takes on Detroit. What was the Detroit matchup last week? Chicago, right? Yes. Was that, okay.

I don't know if you had seen this, Jason. I think it was in the streamfinder tool for the Foot Clan, but Detroit's run defense is softened of late. Have you noticed this? They have softened of late. I think a lot of it, you know, sometimes it's happenstance like this last week. They gave up a rushing touchdown to Dionne Foreman, but the situation that caused that where he I lied. I think I lied. Where he got on the goal line and got the touchdown. was just not, it wasn't bad rushing defense. It was just unfortunate that they got a goal line opportunity and weren't able to stop. No, no, I was lying, Jay. Great. It must have been somebody else that was a stout run D earlier in the year that I was worried about because they've still been very good. Yeah, on the season. Chicago, L.A. were awful the last two weeks. On the season, they are still ranked eighth against running backs and fantasy points given up.

So look, you need a start. AJ Dillon's available. I know a lot of people out there that were playing Deonta Foreman or we're playing, you know, some of these Ty Chandler. Ty Chandler's in play as well. I mean, Ty Chandler was very good, but he's sharing, so was Alexander Madison. So how would you break up some fab spend on, you know, Dylan, Chandler? Let me throw Keaton Mitchell in the mix who, you know, I think there's optimism about him, but the opportunity hasn't quite been there yet. Man, Dylan, it's difficult because Dylan's going to get. So much volume. The matchup is not great. He gets Kansas City the following week. Then he does get the Giants. So I think there's life there. And we don't know as of this recording how long Aaron Jones is going to be out. I think he's going to miss at least a few weeks. So A.J. Dillon, while it's not a great play, I mean, it's 10 fantasy points to me. Yeah, which.

10 fantasy points off of, if you can get it off the waiver wire, because he's available in about 40% of leagues. If you can get 10 points off the wire, that's great. And there will be some upside that they just happen to, you know, get dragged down on the one, and then AJ Dylan gets the touchdown. So I think he's the safest play. Ty Chandler, to me, remains the most interesting because he didn't get, he actually saw a downgrading snaps, 31% of the snaps, and yet 14 opportunities. And the dude is. Like Keaton Mitchell, like Ty Chandler's extremely fast. Alexander Madison fumbled again. So I think there's room there, no matter what, it's going to be a timeshare, but there's room that Ty Chandler's opportunities could start shifting in an upward direction, and he gets Chicago, then the byweek, and then Vegas. So if you need points right now, I guess I'm going Dylan, but I would take Ty Chandler over Keaton Mitchell.

Yeah, all of them are in play. Both on by after this week. So if you need them this week, I get it. I have a real hard time trusting A.J. Dylan. It just feels like a trap. The matchups are bad. He's bad. You're going to throw on the lions. You're not going to run on them. And A.J. Dylan, because of the injury to Aaron Jones, is going to cost you a lot. You're going to have to spend up to acquire him. He's going to be 20 plus fab. in every league that he's available. Whereas like, Zeke, Zeke might be sitting on waivers and be a zero dollar bid. Zeke's been okay. He's less rostered than Dylan is today. Yeah, he had 13 carries in his last game. The game before that, five targets. He plays against the Giants. You know, who's more likely to get a touchdown this week, AJ Dylan by himself or Zeke in a timeshare against the Giants?

I lean slightly towards Zeke's side. At the very least, it's very close. So if you want to save Fab, I think you could look towards Ezekiel Elliott. I also think Rochon Johnson is going to get some opportunities in the next few weeks. The offense, you know, we've seen success there with the Alta Foreman in recent weeks. Justin Fields is back. I'm just putting it on people's radar because he's probably going to be in the lower, maybe no fab spin this week. You could stash him. With Foreman's injury, Roshan's a hard runner. Herbert didn't look good to me. I will say it's a bad matchup, then a by week, then a bad matchup. So it's hard to see the nice rosy path. If Damien Pierce hits waivers after this week, are you picking him up? Picking him up, sure, all stashing, but I would, I'm not picking him up to play immediately. This is a, my team's good, and I'm just going to add some depth.

Really, that kind of is the end of the list of premier options. The rest of the guys are just insurance situations. Elijah Mitchell for CMC. Probably, you know, I guess Latavius for James Cook, but really tough matchup, then a byweek, then a really tough matchup for Latavius. Probably, you know, it's one of those things. If James Cook went straight down, I think that they would be Ty Chandler and Latavius in bad matchups. You know, everybody else is kind of insurance. I think Elijah Mitchell, Latavius, and Rico Dowdell are. Isn't he hurt? He still played. A little bit. But they're just, to me, those are, those, they should be rostered in, in like, almost every single league. We're at the time of year where you don't, you don't want to have a situation where Tony Pollard misses time and everyone knows it. And now it's a.

a rush to the waiver wire, who's the last person who actually has fab, you should be stashing these people right now. Like, if I didn't need to play Zeke this weekend, I would put, I'd put Dowdle on the back of my roster or a lot. I mean, Elijah Mitchell is the number one to me. Because if, God forbid, Christian McCaffrey gets hurt, Elijah Mitchell will be incredible, incredible. 100%. And he is for sure the backup. He is the guy. Yeah, if you. Did you see the press conference with Shanahan being asked about why Mitchell is getting run over Mason? I did not. Oh, man. He was not having that question. And he made it very clear that Mitchell is the number two. He's the backup and he's done great things for them in the past. And that's what they want. It's not that he doesn't like Jordan Mason. It's the Mitchell's the backup. And so Mitchell's a great pickup. I agree completely about like game theory. If you're not going to start someone like Zeke, then the.

idea of picking up someone like Elijah Mitchell is far more important because the following week, one of those guys could be a league winner and it's not Zeke. Right. The only other name I will throw out there just to pay attention to because, you know, we said after the by week after his injuries, Miles Sanders was the clear backup that he was barely getting used. My expectation was by the end of the season, he will regain the starting role when he is fully recovered from the groin issue. It appeared this last week to be a complete 50-50 for the first time in a while. He was playing 18% of snaps, 25% of snaps. This last week, he had the majority of snaps over Chuba, basically the exact same amount of snaps. And it could continue trending back to where we saw to start the season where he was a 65% player. All right. Let's move on to the wide receivers after a quick break.

All right, heading into week 12, we've got some wide receivers that we want to bring up as waiver, wire options for your roster. Who's at the tippy top of your list among the available whiteouts? He's still, for me, he's still rostered in a majority of leagues, but 40% of leagues out there, Josh Downs is sitting there coming off the by might have needed to be dropped, and he was injured before that. So there's a lot of active leagues where. Josh Downs is still available because of those reasons. Prior to the injury, he had a stretch run that was fantastic with Gardner, double-digit fantasy points and half-point scoring for a month straight, tons of targets, looked good. So Josh Downs is very interesting to me, and this week coming off of the by, being healthy against Tampa Bay, a true pass funnel defense the following week after that.