Week 3 Waivers + Andy’s Demise, Chubb Reaction - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/19

was because he had just run, I believe, 69 yards and fell down. And on the play, he definitely ran more than the yards. Yeah, he laterally. He must have ran 90 to 100 yards. And dove in the end zone, and I believe it was called a touchdown on the play. So, I mean, it was an awesome play, but dude was tired. Yeah. So that was a, come on, just give. Ref. I know. Just give the touchdown. There should be one bonus timeout giving to the teams per week. It's called the fantasy timeout. And it's given to the teams to let the guy who just did the long run rest so that he can come back in for the next play. During that time out, during that time out, though, both offense and defense have to line up ready. You're not allowed to come to the sideline, talk things through. Yeah, only that one guy. Someone runs out a chair.

And whoever it is who's exhausted from the play before gets a timeout. Maybe some fans or a spritzer. Absolutely. Someone's spray bottle. Water bottle guy. Bringing him some water. Maybe a back rub. It's a little hard with the shoulder pads. He sits in the position he would be lined up in. Oh, yeah, yeah. Everyone else stays lined up. The 60 seconds is over. Guy takes a chair, goes. Play resumed. Yeah. I like this. This is way better than back the overlapping Monday night games. You don't need Pierre strong. No offense, Pierre. Let's let Jerome Ford get the score. His celebration kind of, it upset me. Pierre Strong? Yeah, because he was too happy? Because he got absolutely wrecked on his first attempt. I mean, like, I haven't seen a running back get Stonewalled like this in a long time. Then he gets in and you're like, Pierre, it was one yard. Jerome Ford did all the work. Go give him the ball. So the running back room, this is your biggest waiver wire storyline. Jerome Ford, for a lot of people, like I said,

the most available. If you are in a league with Kyron Williams, he is above Jerome Ford for me. Everyone is in a league with Kyron, but if he's on your way first, if he's available. Thank you, Jason. Yeah, I just want clarity here. Or did you mean like playing fantasy football with Kyron? He is shockingly available in about 40% of leagues still. I know he was a big waiver wire pickup last week, but these are sleeper roster percentages. Yeah. So absolutely check to see if Kyron is there. Who? I'm Kairn over Jerome Ford personally. Yeah, and that's just because for me it's more assured that the Rams aren't adding a body in the backfield. I think Kairns are a guy. And I think Jerome Ford's probably Cleveland's guy. Agreed. I think Kareem Hunt is washed and they're not bringing him back. I think Leonard Fornett is washed and he's not worth an ad. But I don't know. I don't know if they would trade for somebody. This is a Stefansky offense. This is an offense that was predicated on Nick Chubb in the running game.

And Kyron's getting those targets. So I agree. Kyron is over Jerome. Would you rather have Jerome over Zach Moss? Of course I would. But ask Mike. I genuinely would. I'll take Jerome for it. Because here's the thing with Zach Moss is, is Jonathan Taylor going to be back as soon as he is available? Because he was put on, he was proper short term I are. I can't remember. But he's missing the four games. And we just were presuming. that Jonathan Taylor and the fight with the Colts will continue. Maybe they rectify the situation and they trade him or somehow Jonathan Taylor says, I'm not even going to play for the Colts. But there is a chance that Jonathan Taylor comes back. And if that happens, then Zach Moss is completely irrelevant. It's not like if Cleveland adds a player for the committee, Jerome Ford, I believe will still be.

the number one of the committee. So I'm going Jerome Ford over Moss. 100%. You brought this up, Mike, in clarity earlier in the season. But if Jonathan Taylor were to set out the season, his contract will not toll if he stays on the pup. He has to come back. So I think in week five, Jonathan Taylor's playing football. Now, it might not be for the Colts. But I think in week five, there's a chance it will be. Yeah, exactly. So let's go first three next three because it sounds like where it's a consensus, Kyron, Ford. Moss, potentially. Yeah. But the next three names off the board, how would you put them in order? I want to give the listeners a little bit more of a structure here in the waiver show of who you'd actually prioritize. What's your next three? To me, the next one is Matt Berita personally. Interesting. Matt Berita, Sequin is going to be out a few weeks.

If you have to have a start this week, I don't love Matt Berida. He's playing in San Francisco against a great running defense, and Matt Berita is just a guy and the Giants offense, despite coming back against Arizona Cardinals, has not looked good this year. However, the timeline given right now is that Sequin is expected to miss three weeks. If he does, he is a true volume starter for three weeks. That's important. Even if you need to play him this week against San Francisco, you're not going to get a zero. The following weeks... against Seattle at home and against the Miami Dolphins who have been carved up on the ground. So you've got you've got a path for relevance here for Matt Berita. He would be my next manna. Are you including Justice Hill? Who's rostered sleeper 58% is what we're seeing?

Is Justice Hill included in that discussion? Or are you just assuming that Hill's not there? The Justice Hill, Gus Edwards combination, I'm assuming that they are gone in most leagues. I would take Justice Hill ahead of Matt Breda because Justice Hill's the rest of season. Sure. The Maparita, Craig Reynolds' discussion, I think is difficult. We've seen Craig Reynolds be very relevant for the Detroit Lions. And at least in that... game that they didn't have a chance to change how the structure and the plan was going to be for Jemir Gibbs. Craig Reynolds came in and was David Montgomery. He was getting all of that work. He gets to play the Falcons, Green Bay, Carolina. It's a little more messy because the report from New York is they've said, expect three weeks, or at least the beat reporters are saying that. For David Montgomery, is he day to day? Is he out multiple weeks? If I knew

for sure that Montgomery is going to miss, say, two weeks, I would prioritize Reynolds over Matt Barita. I feel like that's a really hot take. Reynolds over Barita? Yeah. He only had four touches in that game after Montgomery left. And I, you know, this is, this is not a situation where I'd want to mess with the maybe, the uncertain volume of a second option in Detroit. I think Matt Barita is a pretty big maybe as well. Like what is the, what is the timeshare? with the rest of the guys on the roster. It's better than Reynolds, but it's maybe a worse situation with the line. What we do on the waiver rankings, so if you go to the website, the fancy footballers.com, we do mark, there's kind of two categories of players you pick up. And that's what can make this segment confusing for some, which is that there are players to pick up and stash. Players that you want to put on your lineup, you don't need a start, so you're going to prioritize.

Like to me, that's Roshan Johnson. That's Jalen Warren. Those are players, Devon A-Chain. Those are players that you put on your roster and you wait and see what happens. Roshan looked great again, didn't get a lot of work. The offense looks terrible. I still think he is somebody to stash. Jalen Warren, his time could be coming very soon. He's under 50% roster. But the spot start players, certainly Justice Hill and Gus Edwards above all else in that next group. And then Matt Breda. Craig Reynolds would fall into that category. And then you'd be looking at the New Orleans running backs, which is that's a really tough situation because you're going to get what you got one week, right? Yep, yep. Because Alvin Camara is coming back. Jamal Williams is injured. And then you have an injured, Kendri Miller. And then Tony Jones looked awful. He just looked, he just scored twice. So I'm actually, I'm ignoring that. Yeah. What? Yeah.

I'm ignoring that team for one week. Not me. I am picking up Kendrae Miller. Kendra Miller didn't practice week one. Kendra Miller was a limited participant in practice all week two. He was very close to being active for the game. They decided to give him another week of rest. If Jamal Williams is gone and Kendra Miller is active, Kendra Miller is a great player. And if Camara's not there and Jamal Williams is not there, Kendra Miller, I think, is someone that... Yeah, but could you bet he would get more touches than Tony Jones? 100% if he's active, I think he would get more touches. Now, it's not a guarantee that he is active, so it's a risk when you pick him up. But I think the upside is worth the risk. Plus, I think that if he comes out and has a good game, because this is a very talented, highly drafted running back, who is, I believe the running back of the future for this team. This isn't like a Tony, Tony James Jones, Brooks, you know.

whoever situation where he was elevated from the practice squad last minute because of injuries and then looked bad in the game. This is the guy they want to be the future of their team. If Jamal Williams ends up missing, we don't know the details on his hamstring, but let's say he misses three weeks, which is common for a hamstring. When Camara comes back, he's going to be the dude. But Camara has always shared the load. He's always given enough volume to someone else. If Kendra Miller is the 1B and Jamal Williams isn't there, I... I like the talent. So I'm willing to take a shot at picking up Kendrae Miller on waivers this week, knowing that I might have to still make another transaction before this Sunday if Kendra is not active. Okay. So you're saying you're targeting Kendra Miller regardless, but you're not like you're not talking about it from the position of you lost Nick Chubb and you need a running back right now to go.

I would absolutely have Kendrae Miller in my list of waiver pickups. He's not the guy I'm targeting. I'm targeting Ford first. These other guys we've talked about who have more, you know, known health and volume. But certainly Kendrae Miller, I believe, should be on everybody's pickup. And for those at home that use the fab system and not the waiver priority, are we, how are you guys handling? Like, Kyron Williams, if he somehow is still on your waiver wire. I feel like that's, I'm being really, know your league. So when people ask us for fab amounts, it can be very difficult because it's know your league. What are the tendencies of the other players who really needs a running back? But I would be overly aggressive to the point of close to a full fab dump for Kyron Williams and Jerome Ford. I would be close to, I'd be 85 of my 100 if I had it all.

for both of those players. Yeah, that's how I lean to. Drop candidates, though. You have to drop someone to pick someone up. So Cam Acres, I would be dropping him to pick up any of those top options for sure. The top options, I would be willing to do it. Someone like Kendra Miller, who I like, I probably would hold on to Cam over Kendra. Would you really? The odds that Cam lands somewhere and produces seem so dramatically load for me. If it wasn't for the Browns specific situation, that's like the one spot. I think he'll know it this week. I mean, he's not coming in there to be the workhorse, though. I think if they were to trade for Cam Acres, he would be the one. Not the workhorse. I think Jerome Ford would still be the player I'd rather have. Really? Why would Cam Acres get that job? Eileen Ford would be the guy no matter what. Khalil Herbert, you dropping him? No.

He's the starter. These are names that came up, right? Do not. Everyone out there do not drop Khalil Herbert. Zach Charbonnet. If you have to make a move right now because you need a guaranteed volume running back. Kendrae Miller or Zach Charbonnet, Jason? Charbonnet. I would take Kendrae Miller for the chance that he gets to be the dude this week. Would you drop Jamal Williams knowing that? Yes. Okay, so with Kamara coming back. Samajap, Ryan, we done with that? Yeah, I'm fine moving on from Somaget. Sure. The wide receiver room. Oh, boy. Nico Collins right now leads all wide receivers in intermediate targets and receiving yards. He was seven for 146 in a touchdown. And he rests at my free agent acquisitions at wide receiver. Is that where you guys are at as well? Yes. Yeah, I'd agree.

The nice thing about Nico Collins is I don't look at Tank Dell's involvement as any potential negative to him. No, they're different players. They're very different players. So Nico Collins to me, I think if C.J. Stroud can, look, the game scripts. What's Houston going to be in? Negative game scripts. All year long. Their offensive line is a problem, but they've been able to dink and dunk and find this intermediate stuff. So Nico is, what's the fab budget you'd spend on Nico right now through two weeks? As in, that's another way of saying, how much do you believe? Yeah, for me, I'm in on Nico. I believe he's going to be a relevant flex style option. So I'm willing to spend around 10% of my fab. Like for wide receivers, I don't usually go hard in the paint. I'm not one that is going to ever drop, you know, unless there's a like Puka, Puka who's a rookie who does something that no rookies have ever done. And you go, oh, man, I want to take a shot at that. Nico to me is like a 10 to 15%. What about a rookie?

who out snapped Nico Collins and had 10 targets and was 7 for 72 in a touchdown. This would be. Take Dell. I mean, you could say that that's a reason to avoid Nico or to avoid the whole situation not knowing where they're going. But CJ Stroud, I don't know if you saw this, Mike. Most passing yards ever threw a rookie first two starts. He has 109 drawbacks through two games that is tied for the third most of any quarterback through two weeks. They're letting him rip it. In the last decade. Yeah, I'm being pretty aggressive after Nico and Tank. I would spend more than 10% on Nico because I think you can start them every week. Yeah, I agree. I'd go, I'd push over 15 for Nico. Yeah, probably 15 to 20. And then Tank Dell, that's more of a 5 to 10 for me. Looking at the other options, 2-2 at well, 32% rostered, had another big game, nine targets, 7 for 77. He looks great out there.

Yeah, he does. And he's a second round pick. That's one thing I want to remind people of. He was a second round pick we all rolled our eyes at. We were shocked that they made the investment on an undersized Tutu Atwell. But this is, you're starting to see this. Yeah, these tiny guys. I mean, you've got Zay Flowers and Tank Dell and Tutu Outwell. Josh Downs. Yeah. So there are, there are players getting involved that are more undersized in the offseason. We reflected on this. The. but the average weight and height of wide receivers has gone down. This was one of Mike's things to remember. Was it the things, I believe that was the things to remember episode in the offseason of the NFL's changing. The wide receiver weight is going down. Do you believe in Josh Reynolds? Josh Reynolds is available in 80% of leagues. Yes, I do. Six to six and two touchdowns. Amun Ra might have a turf toe injury. That is the thing that.

that is the tiebreaker for me. Josh Reynolds is a fine start in my opinion. If this is a team that's at home this week, they are against the Atlanta Falcons. You say, okay, they're going to score 25 plus points. The wide receiver two for that team should be rostered, should be played in fantasy. But when you add in the fact that Ammon Rae St. Brown, they have not come out and said he has turf toe. But you watch what happened. You watch the injury, the play. It's exactly what always causes turf toe. They put a steel plate in his shoe during that game, which is what you do for turf. So, I mean, he's got turf toe. We know it. They just haven't said it. When that happens, players' performance, it just takes a small step down. I don't think I'm in raw if he's active. I don't think you're going to not play him because of that. But it just means Josh Reynolds is more important to this offense.

And so I'm fine taking a shot at a week's, you know, one week start here for Josh Reynolds. Would you drop Jahan Dotson or Zay Jones for Nico Collins to out well, Josh Reynolds, Tank Dell? Not, not Dotson. Zay Jones, perhaps. Zay Jones for Nico, I would do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would do that. It's the, the Zay Jones injury, we still are. I think we're looking for an update. Kyle, I don't know if anything has come out about that. We might have to wait until tomorrow. Was it his knee? I think that's what it was. But he was in there late in the game. It was. questionable with a knee injury. But then after the game, they've kind of said, yeah, we might have to look at this. It feels a little bit roulette-like with the non-riddley options in Jacksonville right now with Evan Ingram and Zay Jones and Christian Kirk. Zay Jones was, again, a...

A Crystal Lave step away from multiple touchdowns. There were four. It's hard to goose with as many targets as he had, but he did it. Yeah, he did. There were four plays that were the couldn't get two feet down from Trevor Lawrence. Okay, so not Dotson, though. No, I'd still hold Dotson. Jaden Reed, rookie wide receiver for the Packers. I am not that interested. He was four for 37 with two touchdowns. I think he's a good player, but I do expect Christian Watson to come back. and it's hard for me to look at the rookie, you know, maybe third or fourth in the pecking order. You know, there's no Aaron Jones in this game, no Christian Watson in this game. I'm not willing to invest Fab on him, but I'm willing to put a waiver claim in to wait and see. Yeah, I'd like him to be a stash on my bench. This week he plays against New Orleans Saints. I just talked about what a difficult matchup that is for pretty much all positions. The Saints defense is very legit. But when you've got a rookie who in week two has a,

monstrous game is very involved and he's got 34% targets per route run that's one of the most sticky slash telling stats of future success for a rookie especially a highly drafted rookie like jaden reed should be i agree you know christian watson's going to come back and that means that jaden reed will probably be less involved just be kind of more of the slot player for this team but he should be rostered and stashed Well, put the rookies in order in terms of who you're interested in them with Jaden Reed, Tankdale, and Marvin Mims, who Marvin Mims was two for one, 13, and a touchdown. That's my order. Mims is the bottom? Yeah, five routes. Yeah, Jaden Ried, Tankdale, Marvin Mims. I love Marvin Mims. I love his talent. Performance should lead to more opportunity. That's always what happens with rookies. I really, I mean, obviously two for 113 and a touchdown. He was unbelievable on his five routes. Okay. It should, but.

The other guys are already doing it in terms of getting all the snaps and the targets. Any more stash names you want to throw out there? Rashid Shaheed with another good week. Yeah, that guy is just, he's an electric player. The only other one I would highlight would be we are, you got to monitor the Odo Beckham Jr. ankle injury. They say he's fine. Yeah, they said it's not going to affect his availability. So it's probably nothing, but Rashad Bateman, he was the guy who kind of. stepped in for the O'Dell Beckham role when Beckham was missing snaps. So if somehow Beckham is more injured than they are letting on, Bateman becomes an intriguing type of a player. It's funny because I was going to ask you if you'd cut Bateman for all of these free agent options at wide receiver. Because that's going to be a, he was drafted. So people have to make a call on Rashad Bateman. If Nico Tank, even, oh man, even two, two.

Yeah. What a world we live in. That's how I feel, too. I think I'd be ready to move on from Rashad Bateman. Yeah, and if you need a start this week, I would rather start Josh Reynolds. And then the question, so that's top three, yes, a start in Josh Reynolds, yes. And then the real question to me is Jaden Reed. And I think I'd rather stash Jaden Reed than stash Bateman. So after that, I want Bateman on my roster. If he was dropped to the waivers, I would look to pick him up. if I've got a player worse than this to drop, but yeah, I would rather have those players. Tight-end free agent options. Hunter Henry, if he's out there, 50% of leagues right now, six for 52 in a touchdown. They're often seems very predicated on getting the ball to the tight-in position, so he is the top target. Yeah, he has been awesome. He was the start of the week last week. Now, he's got the Jets this week, and that can seem really, really scary. So far through two weeks, the tight-end position has been okay against the Jets.

So it's not one of those where they've been shutting that down. I think you could still keep rolling Hunter Henry. You don't expect what happened this last week. The last, you know, the Miami Dolphins over the last two seasons, this two weeks and last year are the worst of the worst against tight end. So it was very predictable. I don't expect him to have a great game against the Jets, but I would pick him up. I think he's going to have a solid season. So he's the number one pickup to me at the tight end position. Mr. Sam Laporta rookie tight end is.

Doing work. 19.6% targets per route run through two games, five for 63 on six targets. And look, on Ra, we just talked about it. His teammate definitely does not have turf toe. Yeah, look, Sam LaPorta is a player you should be targeting. Agreed. Agreed. So much better than Dalton, Kinkade. And let's talk about Zach Ertz, guys. Zackertz is the number one in targets per game at the tight-in position. Okay. He is number one in target share on the roster. Sorry, in the NFL. These are sounding good. He is number two in air yard share. Ooh, he's getting air yards down the field. He was six for 56 against New York. He was just missed on a long touchdown. Zachertz, I'm sorry. I'm sorry if you want to use an old man voice. Zachertz is relevant for fantasy. I actually just looked and I see his week three line.

It's already been published. His week three line, he's got 11 targets. That is awesome. Actually, with seven receptions, very good. 23 yards. So if you're in a full PPR against the Dallas Cowboys, then... Nine and a half points in a full PPR. In a full PPR. Yeah, no, it's not bad. That's good. I mean, against the Dallas Cowboys, they're going to use him as the safety blanket, but he's not going to do anything special. You could do so much worse than Zach or is it tied in. Yes. Like Kyle Pitts. For sure. Oh, man. Look, right here, right here, right here, right here. Drop Kyle Pitts for Zach Kurtz. Oh, my. Drop him. Drop Kyle Pitts for Zach Kurtz. Screenshot that. Do it. I am a. Go to Mike's camera. I am staunchly opposed to Zach Hertz. Look at, no, right here. What are you doing? I am so opposed to Zach Hertz. And yet that might be the.

That might be the right thing you got to do it. You got to say it. No. No, I will right here. Right here. Jason's camera. I will not. Jason. No. I hate this. I hate what I'm saying. Say it. Drop pits for Laporte it. Uh, I hate this. Fail out, Jason. Drop Kyle Pitts for Zachar. Yes. Oh. Oh. It's just the redemption I needed from getting. A victory stolen from me last night. All right. Zach Hertz is getting targeted so, so much. Uh, Jake Ferguson. He caught a touchdown. He caught a touchdown. He was three for 11. So I might, I might, there might not be a ceiling to Ferguson and that's my concern. Yeah, I, I, I've paid close attention. I've got him in several leagues, whether he's a stash on my bench or I had him started in League of Record Week 1. I've watched him play and he is very involved in this offense. And I am, I am concerned he's.

Just not good enough. His snaps did go down. He was a 72% snap player in week one, which weird week, that 40 to nothing victory over the Giants, it did drop down to 60%. Your boy, the schoon man, he caught himself. He got a touchdown, right? Did I dream that? No, he did. Yeah, it was awesome. Scooom, man. I want to throw another name out there for monitoring at Titan. And it's not in our lift. But I think that's because. he was injured halfway through the game, and so you didn't get to see the final stat line. Eight targets in week one, three targets and a touchdown in week two. Logan Thomas of the Washington commanders. Do you think they'll be active? I'm just saying he's got to be in protocol right now. He 100% is in protocol. This is why I prefaced it by saying he's a name to monitor at the tight-in position for weeks to come because he's the number six tight-in despite the fact he missed half a game due to concussion.

He's heavily involved in the offense. And if you watch Sam Howell, there have been some problems. And Logan Thomas, there was a time when he was really relevant for fantasy. And I wonder without that injury, if we would be sitting here saying he's the number one pickup because he was on his way to another six, seven target game and he has scored. So saw the red zone target. Just keep your eyes on him. Would you cut David Njoku? For Hunter Henry immediately. For Zach Hertz. What about Tayson Hill last night? Nine for 75 rushing. Yeah, he's a running back. That's part of the discussion for how hard do you go after one of these New Orleans Saints running backs is if they know. If they know that Jamal Williams is going to be out, they're going to scheme up a bunch of Tayson Hill runs. And it was. And he was good. It was Carolina could not stop it. Nine for 75.

I mean, it's, I don't know what the Panthers were doing. Like, if Tayson Hill's lined up back there, he's going to run the ball. Yeah, I mean, when you get to run as the quarterback, you know, you get an extra blocker on the field and Tayson is a great athlete. So he is, I think, a very good pickup because if Kendra is not active and Jamal Williams is not active, and Alvin Camara is not active, then I am starting Tayson Hill in my tight end slot. He's a running back, but if your platform has him as a tight end, He'll probably have 13 carries in that game if Kendrae Miller's not acting. And the goal line one. Goal line, yes. Which he didn't get in the end zone last night, but he had the chance to. He just got stuffed on the four. Defensive streaming options for this week. Who are you targeting? Jacksonville plays Houston, but in which Jacksonville, they did okay when you used them against Anthony Richardson. But CJ Strauss is throwing the ball so much. That could turn into turnovers.