I agree. I think it was too. I want to bring him forward because, look, it's impossible to expect most teams to give everything to one guy and whether Rashop Penny is capable of it, whether they want to work him to that degree, whether or not they have loyalty. We've seen teams do this time and time again show loyalty to players that have been there and fought through things. C.J. Pro Seis was a draft selection of Pete Carroll.
Fantasy Football 2018 - 1/2 PPR Mock Draft + UDK Release!
Fantasy Football 2018 - 1/2 PPR Mock Draft + UDK Release!
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147 passagesYeah. You also have, they brought back what? They brought back Mike Davis. They brought, they still have Chris Carson. Yeah, there are no running backs in the league that get 100% of the carries. I mean, Leonard Fournette came in, got a ton of carries, but T.J. Yilden was used, you know, Chris Ivory was used. So someone else will be. And C.J. ProCise is there. But oftentimes when you see players drafted with, you know, a high draft stock.
who in college were the complete dominant workhorse. I mean, they were the centerpiece of their team as Rashad Penny was for San Diego. I think that's what they're saying. I wanted to draft a guy who can take volume. Yeah. I think the amount of question marks around Sonny Michelle's workload should definitely exist around Rashop Penny's. Yeah, but he's got a worse offensive line situation. That's exactly my point, though. If you look at college.
Rashad Penny was a workhorse in college, whereas Sony Michelle was a second back in college. So was Christian McCaffrey, and he didn't get the whole backfield last year, and he was drafted at number, what, seven? And he had to share it with... Christian McCaffrey, you're saying in college, he was the backwards. He was a monster workforce. Yes, that's, yes. And I'm, you're proving my point with your... Oh, I thought you were talking about Sony Michelle. You're saying that... My point is Christian McCaffrey was drafted at number seven, and he shared a backfield last year.
Even though he was a workhorse, just like Rashad Penny was. He shared it with Johnson Stewart. Well, that's a perfect example of what I'm saying. All right. So, Mike, you're on the clock. Odell Beckham, Jr., Keenan Allen, Rashad Penny. Where are you going here with this fourth pick? So right now the... It's going to be a wait for you until your next pick. It will be a long wait for me. I'm going with the feeling of there's been a lot of running backs already drafted. Looking at the board, it's actually...
somewhat even. The guys that I do like, though, are running back, or rookie running backs at this point. And their names are. Guys like Darius Geis and Sony Michelle are at the top of my list here, but I don't know if I want to inherit that amount of risk with my third and fourth round pick. Same decision I made when I didn't take Rashad Penny. I had Sake on Barclay. I didn't want to pair them necessarily. Exactly. So it's...
I'm going to sound like a broken record because I'm going to talk him up all offseason. And the fourth round, I think, is a little bit early than, earlier than most will have to draft. And he'll probably be available in that fifth round. But Larry Fitzgerald, the last three years, 100 plus receptions, 1,000 plus yards. I think that he is good for that. I can throw him into my flex. So I have Beckham, Keenan, Larry Fitz, three of my...
top three tiered wide receivers, and now I feel like I can pound running back and just try and get someone to hit for my running back too. And you have more flexibility with that strategy being a half point per reception league or a full point league, then maybe you feel like you do in a standard league. Yeah, and in a standard I would not be doing this. Yeah, because you can find a guy with value. And so now it's going to be very interesting.
I've got to make a decision here. I have Sequan Barkley, Rob Gronkowski, and T.Y. Hilton, and I am staring down a double up on the wide receiver position. I'm actually going to draft Josh Gordon and pair him with T.Y. Hilton. And I'm going to take a strategy similar to you, Mike. We've both gone three non-running backs, which is a little atypical. Yeah. But we're going to see what rolls around. Kenyon Drake goes next. Alex Collins.
who was almost my pick. Alex Collins was the player that I was hoping would get to me. I've got David Johnson, AJ Green, Adam Thielen. If Collins got to me, it was an easy pick. Alan Robinson, Alston, Jeffrey at 408, 409. Jason, you're on the clock. Yeah, I'm on the clock as, you know, when it comes to team needs.
Running back is where I would look. David Johnson is my only running back right now. I've got two stud wide receivers. The three main tight ends that are the only three worth considering early are already off the board. I'm never looking quarterback early. But the way that I will approach us. Yeah. What I was going to say is the two teams that are going ahead of you? Yes, that's what I was going to say. There's only one wide receiver selected by the two teams in between me and my next pick.
at all. They've gone three running backs, two running backs. There's a good chance of running back slides around to you. Exactly. So I will be focusing here now that Alex Collins has gone on a wide receiver. When I look at my board, there's a guy that I don't like to take this early. I don't like to take where he is in his ADP, even though my rankings say he is worth it. He's 100% worth it.
I mean, I believe in him. I love him to death, but I don't ever want to take him in his ADP because usually that puts him as my wide receiver two and there is risk there. But oh my goodness, a star has been born. And if I've already got A.J. Green and Adam Thielen, I do not mind J. Schu-Smith Schuster as my wide receiver three. I'll take him all day and see what happens. I think the most shocking part of that is that he's selected ahead of a guy like Brandon Cooks. But that is showing the difference in kind of.
what you expect and know from a player versus the unknown of Brandon Cooks. I know we've all seen the... I'm the resident anti-cookser here. I don't like any chefs. Right. I guess it's not true with Jared. That's not true whatsoever. You like all chefs. That is, especially bakery chefs. Are those chefs or do they have a different name? A pastry chef. Yeah, there you go. Yeah. All right.
So I do. Not a cook, though. A pastry chef. All right. So after I take. If he's Brandon's chefs, you would have been all over him. After I take jujuice. Your aforementioned Brandon Cooks goes right after there. And the Marius Thomas. Here comes Brandon Marshall. All three of those guys. Jason were never. He's my wide receiver 80. Oh, he's my 80. So he's really, really close. Lamar Miller was the only running back that was drafted. And so I'm going to go around and turn around. And I'm going to.
I'm going to pull what you guys have. You each have one rookie running back. I'm going to pull my first one out of the hat. And the question here for me is what I want to know who it is? Oh, I don't want you to take mine. Would I prefer Royce Freeman or Sony Michelle? I think with my roster, I'm going to shoot for the moon here. I'm going to go with highest upside, not just safest, win a championship. And that, to me, is still Sony Michelle. Yeah, I was kind of hoping he may slip back to me because my decision making process.
as opposed to taking Sonny Michelle where I thought about him, which was 308, which makes him at 503 an incredible value, Jason. Thank you. You're just a master of predicting the future. But I'm willing to take a chance on doubling up on my rookies with a guy like Barclay who's not going to, he doesn't have the inherent risk of other rookies. I'm sitting here at 508, by the way, after Michelle went Jimmy Graham, Jarvis Landry, Golden Tate, and Mark Ingram.
So somebody waiting for that games five through 16. Good luck. But I am going to draft another rookie. Now I'm looking at Darius Geis and I'm looking at Ronald Jones in this half-point league with what they invested in Jones and what I believe they actually have in the backfield. I'm going to take Ronald Jones. I'm going to take him at 508 and he's going to be my partner in crime with Saquan Barkley. You've heard me talk about Ronald Jones this off season. I'm a big fan. I believe he'll succeed there.
with the other weapons that defenses will have to account for behind James Winston. And so my roster is Barkley, Jones, and then I have Hilton and Gordon with Rob Grankowski. Mike, you're on the clock. So a reminder, I have Odo Beckham Jr. Keenan Allen, Rashad Penny, and then I went with Larry Fitz over another rookie running back because I wanted just a little bit more safety in that fourth round pick. I wanted to know what I was going to get.
I'm at the back of the fifth round, and the way that Andy feels about Ronald Jones, Rojo, whichever you want to call him, that's exactly how I feel about Darius Geis. I love the player. I love the situation. Personally, I get that Chris Thompson's going to take third down work, but honestly, who doesn't get third down work taken? It's just, it's very rare. Love you on Bell.
Right. But I didn't have the first pick. So unfortunately, I could not draft Levy on Bell. I think that Darius Geis is a running back too. And I think that he has the upside if the touchdowns come for him to be a low end running back one. So then after that happened, I took Geis. So my starting lineup is essentially secured aside from quarterback and tight end after Geis.
Tom Brady, Carlos Hyde, Greg Olson, Michael Crabtree, Evan Ingram, and Kevin Coleman. And then, so that was the turn. I am already back up. And I am struggling here to, to make a decision. There are, there's a couple wide receivers here that I, that I'm pretty fond of. Who are some of the guys you're thinking about at this? And, and I like, I know Jason doesn't like him, but I still really like Pierre Garsohn.
This season, you brought up on the show I missed on Tuesday that we made a dynasty trade. I gave up the future and a potential upside that is Corey Clement for what I consider the known wide receiver 2 reception. The very present of Pierre Grosone. But then there's a guy who finished last year as a wide receiver one staring me in the face. There's no chance that he would possibly make it back.
Oh, this must be Brandon Marshall. And that is Marvin Jones, wide receiver from the Detroit Lions. Do the right thing, Mike. I drafted him. All right. You did. No, I 100% drafted Marvin Jones. So you are staring down a fourth wide receiver pick in your first six, but the value on Marvin Jones was so good. You couldn't pass. No. What's the ceiling of Marvin Jones? A wide receiver won. We just saw it happen. I don't know if that's not in my.
projected outcome for him because he was so efficient with huge plays and 50-50 balls. I mean, you can look at Marvin Jones in the ultimate draft kick. Matt Harmon breaks down his reception of how often is he getting open on routes? And Marvin Jones, honestly, was not very successful of getting separation, but he was just so good. He's very tall. At that 50-50 ball that he was able to come through. All right, I went with...
the perfect counterpunch to C.Y. Hilton and Josh Gordon, especially in a half point per reception league. I want Julian Edelman here in the sixth round. The likely target monster for Tom Brady this season. I feel like he's a nice match with Hilton and Gordon, who could combine for the amount of catches that Edelman ends up with. And so I went with Edelman to join my roster. We've seen Brady, by the way, went at the end of the fifth round.
Then Breeze went after Edelman, and then Carson Wince went with the eighth pick of the sixth round. So we have seen Rogers, Watson, Wilson, Brady, Breeze and Wins off the board at the quarterback position. And then Dionne Lewis goes one pick ahead of Jason. Oh, that's terrible. Now, you made the heads-up choice of Sony Michelle over Dionne Lewis yesterday on the show, and you had to make that choice today in the draft, and you went with Michelle. And you could have had them both, but...
Yeah, Dionne Lewis was, again, who I was hoping would drop to me. I mean, if I had my, you know, extra magic pick, I would have had Alex Collins over Sony Michelle, and I would have had Dionne Lewis over the player that I am drafting here, who I almost drafted over Sony Michelle last round in Royce Freeman. I think that, you know, between David Johnson, Royce Freeman and Sony Michelle, I've got a solid running back core, A.J. Green, Adam Thieland, J. Schuster.
You know, I'm very, very happy with the roster all the way around. Now I look at maybe I do actually consider, just consider a tight end. Kyle Rudolph off the board, Evan Ingram off the board, Greg Olson, Zach Ertz, Jimmy Graham. So now I'm getting down to the point where, you know, Delaney Walker, Tyler Eifer, George Kittle. I don't really like any of those guys.
And if I was in a home league with a bunch of dumb guys, I would wait later for Trey Burton, honey, you know, honey boo-boo. Honey-boo? But the truth is. Oh, no. I just don't see Trey Burton getting back to me, even though Andy took grunk. I think Mike would take him later. This is really early for me to take a tight end. But I see a clear tier break here. So I am going to take. I think what you see is my roster and you know you're not going to compete with me on a weekly basis.
