I feel like if I took a conditioning test, I would also annihilate it. It would be a negative annihilation. We're going to see that on the ninth, Mike. I'm just saying that using the word annihilated could go either way. It's a strong word. Yeah, I prefer them to just tell, you know, non-hyperbole. He murdered his conditioning test. But the news here is that Ariam Foster has recovered from an Achilles injury. What is happening? And I know there's debate here in the studio.
Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Fantasy News & Updates, NFC East Breakdown
Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Fantasy News & Updates, NFC East Breakdown
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136 passagesWe should not overlook injury history, ever, much less a guy coming off in Achilles that has a huge injury history. That being said, Lamar Miller with low volume was very effective in that offense and fantasy football, top 10 guy, two straight years. I am fully in the camp that Arian Foster will be the starter, and I'm going to adjust my rankings accordingly. Thoughts? Thoughts? Yeah, I think he will be the starter. He's the best back there. If he is healthy and he's recovered, one of the things that we've known from Arian Foster's career is,
While, yes, he is very injury prone, he is great at coming back from injury, right? Like, every time he gets back, he goes right into it. He goes right into the next injury. No, but he hits the field. He's productive whenever he plays, but he will have another injury. I mean, I could not, in good conscience, stat him out as a 16-week starter. I just couldn't do it. How many weeks would you do? I'm curious. Ten? Ten is where I'm going to.
probably stat him out for. So he, you know, I think he'll end up rising. Like right now, if you're drafting today, Arian Foster is a great value because his stock hasn't risen to where it's going to rise over these next few weeks when he is getting first team reps and he is clearly the guy and he is clearly healthy. Then all of a sudden he's going to start sneaking up way too high. Well, you might be right. I think Arian's going to end up as one of those guys that he seems to be now, which is he might win you a bunch of weeks. He's not going to.
be like the foundation of your team. But if you have him and you get him at a good value, I think he can give you some RB1 numbers. I mean, he should be able to as long as he's semi-healthy. He's just a pass-catching, uh, effective back. So grab, so grab Levi-on Bell and then handcuff him with the Arian Foster. You'll get the first few weeks. The first four weeks. Foster's ADP is on the rise. He's already in the back of the sixth. He is going around, uh, Frank Gore, Gio Bernard.
Duke Johnson. So you're going to have to make a pretty strong decision. He's going to rise over those guys. But Mike brought up exactly what you have to do. There's no way you can talk about Foster and where you draft him and go, I wonder if he'll get hurt. I wonder if he won't. You have to make a decision. Look, you're staring down Frank Gore and Foster. If you believe Foster will give you enough, be healthy enough. You've got to take, you know, that's the decision you're making. So real quick, right now, drafts today.
Are you taking Aryan Foster or Frank Gore if those are the only two guys left in the draft? Arian. All right. You heard it here. The Reaper has taken Arian down. Arian is about to be catastrophically injured. We're not water betting that. See, that's what I was going for. There we go. There we go. I don't know. Those guys are close. I felt like there was a groundswell to choose Arian right there. I'm not 100%.
I'm sure about that. I'm trying not to choose them at all this long season. I would go go gore in that situation. But you're not going to have to make that decision because eventually you're going to have to make the decision of Aryan Foster or Matt Jones or Jeremy Langford. He's going to be up there. All right. I want to get into our divisional breakdown. Before you do that, there's one more bit of news I want to discuss. Chip Kelly says Gabbert and Kaepernick will split reps in camp.
I want to share my thoughts on this, but you guys tell me what you think about this quarterback situation. Or do you want me to just go? Okay. I've decided yesterday that I'm going to stack Kaepernick as a starter. That's what I decided. I think Kaepernick is going to win the job. He is so far in a way the better actual athlete. And I know that Chip Kelly has basically had pocket passers for the entirety of his NFL career thus far. You know, he worked with.
Bradford and Sanchez and Foles. I just think Kaepernick's going to win the job because Kaepernick can throw the ball farther and run faster and do those things. I could be wrong, but as of today, I think I'm going to stack Cap as a starter. Sure. I'm going to stick with Blaine Gabbert. The last year when Gabbert came in, everybody thought, oh, here we go again. You know, you got a defensive question? Who's playing Gabbert?
Because that's who I'm going to stream. And Gabbert made you pay, pay the price. That was the best stretch by far of his entire career. Maybe things are turning around. Gabbert was an extremely early draft pick, high first round guy, or higher. And I think he can fit into what Chip Gilly wants to do. So for me, it's still Gabbard at this point. Yeah, I'm going to keep my eyes open. I'm clearly drafting nobody until it has been made official.
And even when it's made official... But if you're in an MFL 10, you have to pick one. Then I'm going to avoid both. I really am. I think in MFL tens, even when I go... Well, that's fine, but who would you pick if you had to pick one? If I had to pick one, I would probably pick Kaepernick. If we go back in time where, you know, the question was, is Kaepernick going to go to the Broncos? And I was making my Ryan Fitzpatrick-esque guarantee that he was...
You know, not going to go because Chip Kelly came for Cap. That was like my original thought. So if Cap's healthy and they're splitting reps, I think Cap wins the job. I would like to see Gabbert there for some of like the Bruce Ellington types. But Kaepernick will be interesting fantasy football wise if he is healthy and the starter for Chip Kelly. For sure. All right. Well, before we get to the fun.
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overview back a couple of days thanks to all of the news that had been breaking last week so we're getting into the nfc east we're going to talk giants right out of the gate this is an exciting offense to me we just talked about sterling shepherd is odell beckham junior firmly your number one dynasty draft back yes yeah for me if you're talking dynasty he's my 101 in a startup absolutely he is he has proven himself to me
to be a dominant force for a wide receiver, and he's younger than Brown and Julio. So he de facto is up to 101. But for this season, Odo Beckham is my number three. And the reason of why he is behind Brown and Julio for this year for me is simply a matter of targets. I don't see a situation where O'Dell Beckham becomes targeted like Antonio or Julio, where he's just, he is.
I mean, he was basically the entire offense, but he doesn't get the same amount of target volume. But somehow he manages to get the touchdowns, and he's making a face at me. Well, I was curious, what was the target number for Julio last year? Do you remember? I can pull that up. I believe it was 1,782. I could be off, give or take. Julio had 204, Antonio Brown had 195, and over the back. Okay, so you're talking about 40 difference. Yeah, that's a pretty big gap. I see what you're saying. And I know Beckham missed a game.
So if you give him, you know, the targets from that game, but he would still be, you know, 30 or so behind, which just lowers him just enough to be my number three. I don't have any. If people will say, hey, well, should I take Beckham with my first pick? That's fine with me. I don't have a problem with that or where I think that's just a ludicrous situation. Just for me, he's my number three. Do you guys agree on the Shepard take or do you have thoughts on Cruz that you'd like to share? I mean, I think having Shepard and Cruz back.
only adds to your argument that maybe he's not going to hit 200 targets. Oda Beckham isn't. What do you think about the other wide receiver? I mean, you got Dwayne Harris there as well, but what do you think about the other options for you like? I like the Shepherd take. The Giants clearly loved him. And our good friend of the show, Matt Harmon, charts out these guys. How well do they run a route? And that was the difference maker when we were looking at O'D O'Dell Beckham is he runs.
just professional routes. He is extremely precise. And that's the deal with Sterling Shepard. Jason has been talking all offseason, just gushing, gushing like a schoolboy, professing his love for Sterling Shepard. And I think the big reason is because he runs great routes, which that's how you want to transition from college to professional sports immediately.
Run great routes. Yeah, Sterling Shepard was before the draft. I had said it on the show many times. He was my number one wide receiver ahead of Laquan Treadwell, ahead of everyone else, regardless of where they went. And I don't think there could have been a better spot for him to land for his type. The problem was Shepard from a fantasy perspective is he's really kind of more of a slot receiver type player, a Julian Edelman type player. And so he needed to go to a team that can utilize...
that in their offensive pattern, I think the Giants can very much. The fact that Victor Cruz is back, he's healthy, and he's running behind Sterling Shepard also says something. Sterling Shepard is the number two going into this year on an offense that I think is going to put up a lot of points, a lot of passing. Macadoo. Cruz was trying to run ahead of him, but he was too slow. Probably. He could not catch the head. All right. Reports out of Giants camp have Will Ty and Larry Dannell splitting.
uh, reps as that top tight end. I'm, I'm of the will tie camp. I think I've seen Dinell bobble too many passes over the years and be kind of like a, an athlete that doesn't know how to turn left and right, uh, without a turn signal. So to me, I like will tie. What do you guys think about the tight end situation? For me, it's going to be will tie when it comes down to it. He has, uh, he was spectacular when he came in once he finally got the starting position.
You know, about halfway through. He became a low end tight end one. And you're talking about a situation for fantasy football. I'm going to look him up real quick. Does this end up as a mess, though? Could they both? I don't think so. I don't think it ends up as a mess. I think that Will Ty passes him. I think that Eli Manning has shown just a strong history of using the tight end in his offense. And I'm looking here on fantasy football calculator searching for Ty. I can't find him.
That's how free Will Ty is. He's so free he cannot be found. And so it's just a, like, I think Will Ty is great. If you watched him play last year, you could see that he made an immediate impact on the game. I'm trying to pull up his numbers. There's not many rookies at the tight-in position that can come in and make an impact. I mean, we've said that before. It just doesn't happen very much as an undrafted free agent type guy. And he wouldn't have without an injury.
Right, right. He got the opportunity and he showed that he was good. I believe that in this offense, if there is a starting tight end where he's the guy playing 90% of the snaps, tight ends usually are on the field. You know, when they play, they play a very high number. If those guys end up splitting and end up, you know, going 50-50, then there's not going to be fantasy output that you can rely on. But if one of them takes the role, which I think Will Ty would be the guy if one of them takes it, then he's.
I'm really excited about the tight end in this offense, like you said, if that's the situation. Yeah, they use them in the red zone. Ruben Randall's not there anymore. You've got Shepard, but I mean, who are you targeting in the red zone? The big guy. The big guy. Will tie from week 10 through the end of the season was the number nine tied end for fantasy. Yeah, you have them 11 right now. I'm 15. Jason has him 20, probably reserving opinion for the camp battle. All right, this was an offense that was very good at protecting Eli last year.
Which was a big surprise. If you remember coming into the season, they had some injuries on the offensive line and it was panic was in the air, but they came together. And I think that that really showed for my man, I still believe in you, Rashad Jennings. Yes, you do. Who was the number four overall running back for the last quarter of the season because they took a look and they said, are we getting it done when we just keep giving
